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Armada Republica Argentina
It was just recently ANZAC day too!
Posted by: Col Steve at May 02, 2007 08:50 AM (WffUy)
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Hey, Annie, speaking of this sort of thing, did you receive that F4 reminiscence that I sent?
Posted by: Matt at May 02, 2007 10:13 AM (10G2T)
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Annie,
great post, you still amaze me with your military knowledge! Most people don't realize the Falklands/Malvinas fight could have gone either way, I am amazed watching video of those Daggers and Scooters zipping around the Fleet inside the sound.
But the best ever story of the battle (which most have never heard of) is the one where an Argentinian AF C-130 flew out and they rolled a bomb out the back of the Herc and hit a Brit ship! The bomb didn't fuse but what balls is that!??
Cheers
Posted by: Otto at May 02, 2007 01:16 PM (czVLs)
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Col Steve is correct as usual.
I did recieve that, Matt. Which was the inpiration for that recent F-4 post I did.
Thanks Otto. I never heard that story either.
Posted by: annika at May 02, 2007 06:04 PM (WfR6S)
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Ah, sorry. I missed that one until just now.
I bet you're a Dogfights geek, aren't you? Best.Series.Ever.On.The.History.Channel.
Posted by: Matt at May 03, 2007 08:50 AM (10G2T)
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Good article, but a couple of comments if I may:
a. Just as you later say, the Belgrano did not have Exocets. The escorting destroyers did.
b. The Belgrano was not hit at the stern - the first weapon hit midships and the second removed her bow
c. Final death toll was subsequently reduced from 368 to 323
Posted by: Narendra at May 04, 2007 11:50 AM (nVX8n)
Sunday Morning Jet Porn
Have you seen the History Channel's Dogfights on Randy Cunningham? That guy was bad-ass. Skill, too much balls and just enough luck. He and his RIO William Driscoll became the first and only US Navy aces of the Vietnam War.
Cunningham and Driscoll's May 10, 1972, sortie was one of the legendary dogfights of all time. Despite several tactical errors, and lacking a gun which would have been useful, they shot down three MiG-17s that day. The team became America's first "all-missile" aces.*
They flew the McDonnell Douglas F-4J Phantom. The navy plane in the video is not one of Cunningham's F4Js. The plane from the May 10 dogfight never made it back to the USS Constellation after Cunningham and Driscoll shot down their last MiG. They ejected over the ocean on the way back, after taking damage from an SA-2 ground-to-air missile.
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* Trivia: of the four American aces from the Vietnam War, the top scorer (with 6) was a back-seater, USAF Capt. Charles DeBellevue.
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I saw that show on History Channel, and was riveted. I was mad they kept going to commercials, as I was eager to find out the resolution of the action.
You mentioned some tactical errors. This is one thing which makes me crazy about the condemnation of the OIF leadership: strategic and tactical errors always occur, in every conflict. Always. It is impossible to perfectly foresee conditions. Also, the enemy always adapts. Some commander, can't remember who, famously said: "The plan never survives the first shots."
It looks, now, upon seeing the success of the surge, as if Rumsfeld and his generals stayed too long with their "small footprint + maintain stability" strategy. Patreus proactive counterinsurgency strategy is, so far, massively successful. But, consider: Rumsfeld and his generals were determined to leave us in a strategically flexible position, at all times, and they did that. They tried the small footprint, it didn't work very well. But, to me, it looks as if they held down overall American casualties, and they left us with the strategic flexibility to now implement the surge. It looks as if Rumsfeld and his generals did a mediocre job, at best. Yet they still did a professional job. They were not "incompetent". Many generals in history have done worse, with more disastrous results. Even, for instance, in WWII, where some of Adm. Bull Halsey's decisions bordered on actually incompetent - yet he is still considered -even by me, a fine and skilled and honorable naval commander. Stuff happens.
Foreseeing the future is impossible. On third and three, should you run or pass? After the play fails, all fans know, in their hearts, that the coach made an incompetent playcall.
Posted by: gcotharn at April 29, 2007 12:31 PM (Tw4oT)
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I originally meant to lift the truncated quote, but thought a little more might be digestible in this hour.
"...Let the man of learning, the man of lettered leisure, beware of that queer and cheap temptation to pose to himself and to others as a cynic, as the man who has outgrown emotions and beliefs, the man to whom good and evil are as one. The poorest way to face life is to face it with a sneer. There are many men who feel a kind of twister pride in cynicism; there are many who confine themselves to criticism of the way others do what they themselves dare not even attempt. There is no more unhealthy being, no man less worthy of respect, than he who either really holds, or feigns to hold, an attitude of sneering disbelief toward all that is great and lofty, whether in achievement or in that noble effort which, even if it fails, comes to second achievement. A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life's realities - all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. They mark the men unfit to bear their part painfully in the stern strife of living, who seek, in the affection of contempt for the achievements of others, to hide from others and from themselves in their own weakness. The rôle is easy; there is none easier, save only the rôle of the man who sneers alike at both criticism and performance.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. Shame on the man of cultivated taste who permits refinement to develop into fastidiousness that unfits him for doing the rough work of a workaday world. Among the free peoples who govern themselves there is but a small field of usefulness open for the men of cloistered life who shrink from contact with their fellows. Still less room is there for those who deride of slight what is done by those who actually bear the brunt of the day; nor yet for those others who always profess that they would like to take action, if only the conditions of life were not exactly what they actually are. The man who does nothing cuts the same sordid figure in the pages of history, whether he be a cynic, or fop, or voluptuary. There is little use for the being whose tepid soul knows nothing of great and generous emotion, of the high pride, the stern belief, the lofty enthusiasm, of the men who quell the storm and ride the thunder. Well for these men if they succeed; well also, though not so well, if they fail, given only that they have nobly ventured, and have put forth all their heart and strength. It is war-worn Hotspur, spent with hard fighting, he of the many errors and valiant end, over whose memory we love to linger, not over the memory of the young lord who 'but for the vile guns would have been a valiant soldier.'" -TR
Posted by: Casca at April 29, 2007 07:38 PM (2gORp)
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OK, Cas, that's just two paragraphs, but two of the longest I've seen in years.
Still, full of truths. Who can disagree except for the butthead who just does it for attention?
Posted by: shell at April 29, 2007 07:46 PM (LEMQc)
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I only wrote one sentence. TR wrote the rest, better yet, know where he delivered it? To the French, mwahahahaha.
Posted by: Casca at April 29, 2007 10:42 PM (2gORp)
Posted by: Radical Redneck at April 30, 2007 12:23 AM (pMJBC)
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Thanks for reminding me how much I love TR, Casca.
Posted by: annika at April 30, 2007 06:33 AM (WfR6S)
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Thanks, Radical Redneck. I shall immediately gouge my own eyes out with fish hooks.
Hopefully, your intended target will be compelled to do the same.
Posted by: reagan80 at April 30, 2007 07:55 AM (gyiuI)
Interesting Bit Of Trivia
I found this interesting:
[A]bout 10 per cent of the Victory's crew came from outside the British Isles: twenty-two Americans, one Brazilian, two Canadians, two Danes, seven Dutch, four French, three Germans, nine Italians, six Maltese, two Norwegians, one Portuguese, four Swedes, two Swiss, two from India, and five from the West Indies. Such a mixture was due partly to press-gangs and partly to volunteering. French men serving in the British Navy were usually royalist volunteers, opposed to the revolutionary and then Napoleonic regimes in France.
The Category Is "Heads Of State"
Identify the European head of state who, according to Time Magazine, complained that the President "acts like a faith healer" and formulates "policy from the pulpit?"
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I never saw that one coming. What a surprise...a pleasant one, nonetheless.
Posted by: reagan80 at April 03, 2007 07:46 PM (I0gpu)
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Only one person at a time is "The President". Every other former occupant of that position is "Ex-President" or "former President".
So, when you asked the question, it was obviously a trick question, because "The President" is not that fool Carter.
Better hope the bar Examiners are more careful about their questions...
Posted by: shelly at April 04, 2007 06:57 AM (JQe3J)
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"...the virtues of open diplomacy and moral principles as a substitute for what he contends was the often secretive and sometimes amoral Realpolitik of the Nixon-Ford-Kissinger years."
The man was, is, and at this point, probably always will be the definition of a fucking idiot. What was accomplished in those amoral years? Well there was this war in Vietnam, that the left didn't want to win, but didn't want Nixon to get the credit for ending. There was also the opening of Russia with Glasnost, and that Red China thing, all of which created a world where the possibilities of nuclear war became more remote.
Jimmy on the other hand, deposed the Shah, and gave us the mullahs. I propose that wherever he opens his mouth in front of a microphone, he be driven from the place with wet towels! The man is a disaster.
Posted by: Casca at April 04, 2007 07:02 AM (Y7t14)
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Kasha,
It is not surprising that you genuflect for the dubious accomplishments of a man whoÂ’s name and dark countenance has been, until the current occupant of the WH grabbed the feedbag of slime, synonymous with deceit and malfeasance, anti-Semitism, racism and many other less pleasant attributes and deride a man who has acted impeccably throughout his career, never a whiff of scandal, always championing the high moral ground.
The Shah was a corrupt despot and Israel will settle for nothing less than separate but unequal. Today I was reading an account of the firing of general Lavelle in 1972 and the Nixon-Kissmonkey-Laid statements about the event transcribed from the tapes. They are pissed at Laird for firing Lavelle when he (Laird) knew full well that “protective reaction” was to be used as the excuse for bombing targets in the North other than SAM sites that turned on their radar. Lavelle was hung out to dry for following the orders contained in the wink rather than the explicit paperwork and the winker (although more often referred to as the wanker), Nixon, was furious.
Posted by: strawman at April 04, 2007 07:43 AM (9ySL4)
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Hey Casca, did you hear something?
I swear I thought I heard something. Nope, I guess not,
Sorry about the OSU bit; I couldn't resist. I actually spit out my coffee when I read Annie's post. Florida's team is going en masse to the NBA, but USC just got the Numero Uno pick for next year. This year was your chance...
Posted by: shelly at April 04, 2007 08:11 AM (JQe3J)
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Mata is a good coach. I'm just glad that we have a respectable program now. Conley is an incredible talent, overshadowed by the big man Oden. They'll probably do the smart thing, and take the money, and be gone next year. Who can blame them?
Posted by: Casca at April 04, 2007 12:08 PM (Y7t14)
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Straw,
At this point in your career, I'm rarely surprised at your silly statements and distortion of reality.
Jimmy Carter is a miserable failure. He's a disgusting, amoral, self-righteous idiot. The day he meets Jesus will be a great day for mankind. The moron is unworthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as Nixon, who despite some obvious personal failings accomplished more in his career than that jackass Jimmy Carter did or ever will.
"The Shah was a corrupt despot and Israel will settle for nothing less than separate but unequal."
Yeah, the Iranian people (and the American and Israeli people were much better off with him gone.) My God, are you that dumb!? Jimmy Carter is as much responsible for the current mess with Islamo-fascism as anybody walking the planet.
Your commment about Israel, however, was even more dumb. How is it possible that this German-American can know more about and care more about your own people than somebody in tribe? I have Jewish friends that would spit on you, Straw, for such inane rambling. The very people who would like to see every Jew dead get to vote in Israel. Ruminate on that while you sit around feeling sorry for the barbarians.
Get a life and clue, pal. Better yet, try going to Israel sometime and meeting your people, and experiencing what life is like knowing you are surrounded by sub-humans whose entire existence revolves around destroying you and yours.
Posted by: blu at April 04, 2007 12:36 PM (Z0MKU)
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Straw is this the same naive Carter who has been bowing before the altar of dictators for decades and thinks they're all perfectly rational people? Is this the same vicious Carter that rips his country at home and abroad?
If you're going to defend a Democrat President, fine. Pick Roosevelt. Pick Kennedy. Carter?
Posted by: Mark at April 04, 2007 02:10 PM (krump)
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Blu,
Calm down fella, wipe the foam off your lip, take a drink of water and listen. I am dedicated to the survival of Israel, be they my tribe or not. (you should only know how many Jews And Israelis I have as friends and business associates). But I am not going to get sucked into your foaming at the mouth rambles about the sub-human peoples that surround them and agree that a policy of keeping a heel in their necks is the only way to control a very difficult situation. No matter how long you keep your heel there you will someday have to or want to relax and try to live your life. Unfortunately the damage done through oppression cannot be undone by simply getting them to say uncle. The poverty and oppressive conditions in Gaza and the west bank are appalling. The population explosion in these territories is causing great pressure and the anger and resentment grows year by year. The numbers that want to sacrifice everything to the cause increases daily. Explosives are the limiting factor, not those willing to serve Allah. I do not expect nor do I want the Palestinians to enter Israel and participate in running the country. No vote and no citizenship. But, short of trucking 2 million people out into the desert and shooting them, (which on may days, I am sad to say, I think is a good idea) I cannot think of a solution that does not include giving up territory and resources. Can you? I don't pretend to know exactly how this might be configured but I do know that the application of military might coupled with indefinite containment is not a solution.
Maybe I don't remember the events of 1979 too well, but why would you lay Khomenei's accent at the feet of Jimmy Carter? Corrupt royal families are not my cup of tea but neither are Islamic Republics.
Posted by: strawman at April 04, 2007 03:10 PM (9ySL4)
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Want to watch a Jew's eyebrows go up and his eyes squint?
Just start saying any version of "Some of my best friends are Jews".
We all know what's coming next...
Posted by: shelly at April 04, 2007 08:43 PM (JQe3J)
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Ms. Annika,
How wonderful of you to remember the Gipper. My favorite guy too, although for quite different reasons I'm sure. Be sure to enjoy a jelly belly today in his honor.
Over and out,
X
Posted by: Major X at February 06, 2007 08:40 PM (N155d)
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Yes, and Yes! He is defintiely the hero of us all.
Although I doubt that many of you received a Judgeship from him, as did I.
I also doubt that many of you were privileged to write a Thousand dollar check for the first Fifty Thousand seed money for his presidential campaign.
I, on the other hand, had the pleasure of both, in that very order.
Who woulda thunk it? A great man, really not appreciated in his own time.
Reminds me of our current President, MY President, George W. Bush.
Posted by: shelly at February 06, 2007 10:32 PM (SLFj+)
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Whoops - may I also mention that my jelly belly will come from a jar personally handed to me by then Governor Reagan, bearing his seal and name?
The jar is the same, the jelly bellies are constantly replenished due to hungry grandchildren.
But the feeling is still there.
Remember to spill them out before choosing one; this is known as "Reagan Jellybean etiquette".
Posted by: shelly at February 06, 2007 10:36 PM (SLFj+)
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"A great man, really not appreciated in his own time."
I can't tell if you're referring to Reagan or yourself in that sentence, Shelly!
I too have a jar of jelly bellies purchased at the Reagan Library on my desk.
Posted by: annika at February 07, 2007 02:59 AM (JBltT)
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In a way it is quite disturbing and saddening. Why? well I listened to Reagan's keynote speech again given at the Republican convention in 1964. Thats over forty years ago. and the problems he was addressing were the exact same problems we have now, only now they are worse. It really seems that no progress has been made. Or damn little.
Posted by: kyle8 at February 07, 2007 05:00 AM (lw6jc)
Pearl Harbor Day
I like this photo of U.S.S. Ronald Reagan.
As most of you know, it is a naval tradition for sailors to line the deck of a carrier when passing U.S.S. Arizona and also Mt. Vernon.
I visited the Arizona Memorial once. (It's where I learned that "quay" is prononced "key.") For those who haven't yet, you definitely should go see it. The National Park Service runs the museum onshore, and before you get on the ferry to the memorial, they make you watch a movie about the attack. It's a good idea because it puts everybody in a somber mood before they go to the memorial.
When you get on the ferry boat, they make a big deal about how you are no longer in the custody of the Park Service; now the Navy is in charge, which makes you even more respectful by the time you step onto the memorial. It is a cemetary after all.
The group I was with was very quiet while on the memorial, as I imagine most visitors are. It was a beautiful day, and all you could hear was the flapping of the American flag overhead or the occasional clang of the line against the flagpole. When you look over the side, you really can see the Arizona, only a few feet below the water's surface. And there really is oil coming out of her after all these years. And inside still, are the men. They died sixty-five years ago today.
Pearl Harbor Trivia: Bonus points go to whoever can name the ship that survived Pearl Harbor, only to be sunk by a British torpedo!
Posted by: shelly at December 07, 2006 09:23 PM (YadGF)
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Oh Annie, thats easy. The General Belgrano! During the Falklands War. It was an old US Navy Cruiser USS Phoenix which was sunk by a British Submarine. Sad that it was sunk but when you come out to play with the big dogs that kind of thing happens. I was listening to the book "Stalingrad" and Hitler was talking about a war of annihilation. Interestingly by the end of the War the Russians were using the same term!
Now I'll take Famous Phrases for $100.00!
Posted by: Drake Steel at December 07, 2006 11:28 PM (5uuIt)
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Nobody likes a showoff steel, u... corksucker.
I remember when I was waiting for the ferry out to the memorial twenty years ago. I was approached by a very dignified Japanese gentleman of war service vintage, and he asked me where the memorial was. I told him, "Right over there where you fucking left it!"
Posted by: Casca at December 08, 2006 07:36 AM (Y7t14)
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Casca: LMAO
In 1957, I was in Israel and I approached a lady and asked is she spoke English; she drew herself up to her full height and hautily stated "I AM English."
Steel: You lose. Annie What was "The General Belgrano?"
I'll take "Surrender Mokeys" for $500.00
Posted by: shelly at December 08, 2006 10:03 AM (Eodj2)
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lol, Casca. I encountered quite a few Japanese tourists on my visit too. Interestingly, I also met a very nice Japanese man when I visited Manzanar a few years ago.
Shelly you already buzzed in with the incorrect answer, the Yorktown. I'm surprised at you. The Yorktown was a carrier, and as everybody knows, there were no carriers at Pearl Harbor that day. Plus the Yorktown was sunk by the Japanese, at the battle of Midway I believe.
Drake Steel is correct and would have control of the board... if we were doing Jeopardy, which we're not.
Posted by: annika at December 08, 2006 12:59 PM (zAOEU)
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I know it hard to believe, but I actually misread the question the first time.
Later, I notice a Jeopardy answer but incorrectly stated. He can't control a board unless he gives a proper Jeopardy answer. I'll appeal it to your stupid judges, one of whom must be Reinhardt.
Please don't read this as a signal for another game. I have no time for that now.
Go study for the Bar.
Posted by: shelly at December 08, 2006 03:25 PM (SLFj+)
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I experienced the Arizona Memorial for the first time this past August. It really was sombering. I didn't see any of the "black tears," though. I wish we had had time to visit Punchbowl Cemetary, as well, but time was at a premium during my trip.
Posted by: Leah at December 11, 2006 10:16 PM (qyg54)
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Visiting the USS Arizona and then taking a quick bus ride to check out and walk inside Big Mo' was one of the more memorable experiences of my life. I also noticed how so many people take their leis off and throw them down the exposed turrets...
Posted by: Amy Bo Bamy at December 13, 2006 05:43 PM (Wz2Gp)
This Day In WWII History
From Gordon Prange's comprehensive tome about Pearl Harbor, At Dawn We Slept:
At 1700 on the evening of December 2 a telegram arrived aboard Nagato . . . directing the opening of certain sealed top secret envelope. As his eager fingers tore open the seals, [Adm. Matome] Ugaki sensed that he had in his hands the orders he had awaited impatiently. His instinct was correct. Down the page ran the words "Our Empire has decided to go to war against the United States, England, and Holland early December." Ugaki immediately sent a message to the commanders in chief of each fleet: "Decision made, but date and time will be ordered later."
[Adm. Chuichi] Nagumo had been even more than usually concerned with security that day. At 0730 he signaled his ships:
This force is already in the anticipated scouting areas from Kiska and Midway Islands. Tonight we will pass the 180 degree line and near the enemy zone. More strict air alert and strict lookout against enemy ships suspected of tracking us will be maintained. Particular attention will be paid not to reveal any light at night and to limit blinker signals as much as possible.
Now, on receipt of the "Go" signal, Nagumo knew that he would have to push forward on this gambler's venture he had so dreaded.
The next morning, Admiral Ugaki sent out the second most famous Japanese coded message of the war, "Climb Mount Niitaka, 1208," which meant that the attack would begin on December 8, 1941 (Japan time).
Meanwhile on the other side of the world, the German Wermacht had cut off Leningrad from the rest of Russia. They had been unable to take the city and now the first winter of the long seige had begun. Neurobiologist Alexei Alexeivich Ukhtomsky was one of the leading Soviet scientists of his day. Also a devout Russian Orthodox, he would not survive the seige of Leningrad.
From Harrison E. Salisbury's harrowing The 900 Days:
Ukhtomsky was sisty-six years old when the war broke out. He had just completed editing his lectures on the nervous system for the University of Leningrad publishing house and was planning in the 1941-42 academic year to offer a new course in physiology. With the onset of war he put aside these occupations . . . His laboratory and institute were packed up and shipped to Elabuga in the Tatar Republic and Sratov, but he himself refused to go. His lifelong associate, Nadezhda Ivanovna Bobrovskaya, was critically ill; she had suffered a brain hemorrhage on June 6, and he was caring for her in his apartment. Moreover, his own health was extremely bad. . . .
Nonetheless, he refused to be evacuated with his laboratory. Nadezhda Bobrovskaya died September 26, but Ukhtomsky still refused to go. . . .
"I remain in Leningrad," he said, "in order to finish my work. I haven't long to live. I will die here. It's too late to leave."
The university organized a meeting on December 2 to mark the fiftieth anniversity of Lenin's graduation. It was held in the assembly hall. The electricity was working. From somewhere flowers had been produced for the platform. But the windows were broken, icy winds filled the chamber, and there were snowdrifts on the floor. Air-raid sirens sounded during the meeting, and there were occasional explosions of German shells.
Although he was now suffering from emphysema, although his toes were gangrenous and his cancer much worse, Ukhtomsky spoke with such vigor that participants counted his address one of his most striking.
. . .
So the intellectual life of Leningrad went on; so the intellectuals kept to their laboratories and their libraries, dying by the hundreds but making no concession to the terrible enemies which threatened their existence.
Professor Ukhtomsky finally succumbed to his illnesses and starvation on August 31, 1942.
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Posted by: Scof at November 10, 2006 10:56 AM (a3fqn)
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Happy Birthday, teufel hunden!
Andy, you started when I did and stayed two years longer. East or West?
Posted by: Matt at November 10, 2006 12:43 PM (10G2T)
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I'm sitting here surfing and drinking some Jarhead Red, produced by the Marines at the Firestone Vineyards, and posting about the Marine Marathon and the opening of the new Marine's Museum in Virginia.
Semper Fi and God Bless the Marines!
Posted by: irishlass at November 11, 2006 12:21 AM (BPJO6)
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I've had Jarhead Red, and I've had an Irish lass... both surpassed my expectations.
Who knew that Scof was one of the misguided children, semper fi mac.
Posted by: Casca at November 11, 2006 07:51 AM (2gORp)
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Happy belated birthday wishes to my fellow Marines, both current and former. And Happy Veterans Day to all of us, regardless of branch.
USMC
1965-1969
G/2/5 and G/2/7
1966-1967
Posted by: Muddley at November 11, 2006 12:12 PM (WCg0/)
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231 years of ignorant Nazis!
BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED!
Posted by: Barry the Great at November 11, 2006 02:26 PM (Rwro7)
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Barry, I'm sure that your dick would fit nicely in my pencil sharpener. I'll have to introduce you to it sometime, before I present your well deserved Darwin Award to you, cockslot.
Posted by: Spanky at November 11, 2006 03:35 PM (dFOlH)
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Barry's name links to a Ted Rall site. If you don't know him, have a look. The guy is a certified nutball - Barry obviously follows in his footsteps.
Posted by: blu at November 11, 2006 05:23 PM (w2RJn)
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Matt,
I was West: (Wpns Co, 2nd Battalion, 1st Mar Div). First two year I was on barracks duty in London. I went to the infantry after that.
Posted by: Andy at November 13, 2006 10:14 AM (zGJwm)
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2/1, eh? I don't know many West Coast guys. I had a few buddies in 11th Marines, one in 1st Tanks. I wouldn't be surprised if you bumped into a couple of my TBS classmates at some point, though.
Posted by: Matt at November 13, 2006 04:29 PM (10G2T)
St. Crispin's Day
Today represents a confluence of five favorite blog themes: poetry, drama, politics, history and religion. Today is St. Crispin's Day. Wikipedia says this about Saints Crispin and Crispinian.
Crispin and Crispinian were once the Catholic patron saints of cobblers, tanners, and leather workers. Born to a noble Roman family in the 3rd century AD, Saints Crispin and Crispinian, twin brothers, fled persecution for their faith, winding up in Soissons, where they preached Christianity to the Gauls and made shoes by night. Their success attracted the ire of Rictus Varus, the governor of Belgic Gaul, who had them tortured and beheaded c. 286. In the 6th century, a church was built in their honor at Soissons.
The feast day of Saints Crispin and Crispinian is October 25. However, these saints were removed from the liturgical calendar (but not declared to no longer be saints) during the Catholic Church's Vatican II reforms.
The reasoning used by Vatican II for this decision was that there was insufficient evidence that Saints Crispin and Crispinian actually existed. Indeed, their role as shoemakers, their relationship as twins, and the timing of their holiday are suggestive of the possibility that they could have represented a local Celtic deity (Lugus-Mercurius) which had been made into a saint as a result of syncretism. [links omitted]
You may not know about the Catholic feast day, but I hope you know about the most famous speech from Shakespeare's Henry V, the St. Crispin's Day Speech. I posted that speech back during the Battle of Fallujah in 2004. Today I am reminded of the appeasers and the "cut-and-run" crowd by this famous line:
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
Celebrate St. Crispin's by watching Kenneth Branagh recite the Bard's poetry:
And let's not forget too, that 62 years ago was day three of the biggest naval battle in history, the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
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Annika, you left out the sixth blog theme: Shoes.
Granted, their shoes were probably more practical rather than super-fantastic, but I'm stunned you left out the shoes.
Posted by: Victor at October 25, 2006 11:45 AM (WHtgF)
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I love that monolouge - may well be the best written by the best writer ever.
Posted by: KG at October 25, 2006 01:34 PM (AC0TE)
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Yeah, Branagh's fuckin' good. I stumbled across the last hour or so of Henry V a few weeks ago while I was channel-surfing. I got all misty-eyed an' shit during the speech. It made me want to go kill a Frenchman, or rejoin the Corps, or . . . somethin'.
Posted by: Matt at October 25, 2006 01:40 PM (10G2T)
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"It made me want to go kill a Frenchman..."
LOL.
Very funny shit, Matt.
Posted by: blu at October 25, 2006 01:49 PM (j8oa6)
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Annika,
I am surprised to hear you use the Rovian "cut and run" when you know full well that it is a manufactured position of the RW, pinned to the lapel of anybody who's eyes are open to the incredible morass that Iraq has become and knows there is no effective plan in place. To defend themselves for their umworkable, planless stupidity and critics, they and their pig headed committement to continue (in spite of their new pre-election disavowal of the "stay the course" mantra) they need to call every thing that is not planless and stupid, "cut and run". The idea that we are fighting a strategic battle in Iraq against the "terrorist" forces of Islam, is so ludicrous as to be laughable. The idea that killing the various members of the shite and sunni fighters is somehow about security in America or elsewhere is completely nuts. The concept that if we kill enough of thoses who are fighting to gain control of Iraq and push us out we will prevent the spread of a world wide Islamic hegemony, as the dimwit said this afternoon is drivel. Every justification and speculation about the need to be fighting in Iraq as put forth by these hacks defies logic. The emperor has no clothes, his advocates and supporters are cutting and running from him in the hope they don't go down with his foundering ship. I don't know if the democrats have any useful ideas as to how a shattered and destabilized Iraq can be put together again but I am positive the Bushies have no solution and are prepared to allow 2-3 thousand young Americans die while they try B,C, and D if they can ever figure out that A didn't work.
Posted by: Strawman at October 25, 2006 01:54 PM (9ySL4)
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"The idea that we are fighting a strategic battle in Iraq against the "terrorist" forces of Islam, is so ludicrous as to be laughable."
The insurgency is being financed and led by Iran, the world's biggest state sponsor of terror. When Iran and Al Queda are in the same place fighting for the same goal, I'm pretty confident that we are in fact fighting the terrorist forces of Islam. Fighting them is not nuts nor is the idea of helping establish a functioning democratic state in that part of the world. Why do you think AQ and Iran are there, Straw? They don't want an American foothold in the region (that also strengthens Isreal) because it gets in the way of the Islamic hegemony they'd like to see in the region.
Read "The Looming Tower" and then wax philosophic about this topic. After that, watch the You Tube video of Henry V and maybe you'll grow a pair and then join the good guys.
Posted by: blu at October 25, 2006 02:30 PM (j8oa6)
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Thanks for the reminded about Leyte.
A Google News search showed almost no coverage in US publications--lots of stuff in the Philippines, and one mention in a paper in Illinois.
Posted by: david foster at October 25, 2006 02:46 PM (/Z304)
Posted by: Strawman at October 25, 2006 02:56 PM (9ySL4)
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duhh, book spammer... what do you think Henry V was about?
Posted by: annika at October 25, 2006 05:38 PM (G2SNG)
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Blu:
There are three groups that are promoting terrorism in Iraq: Al Qaida, Iran and the Democrats.
Posted by: Jake at October 25, 2006 06:47 PM (V6rxT)
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Keegan, I think his name is, referred to correctly as 'an eminent Britsh military historian' at keshertalk.com, has a book on '6 Decisive Battles,' and gives the story of Agincourt and the tactical ability of the English. The French did come in all their arms of knighthood in 'overwhelming force' and were destroyed by the English long bow.
Posted by: michael at October 25, 2006 09:13 PM (TKyjh)
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It's the classic The Face of Battle, by John Keegan, you are referring to. Get a copy, it's good.
Posted by: annika at October 25, 2006 10:54 PM (qQD4Q)
655,000 Iraqis Dead?
Is the line between intellectual dishonesty and bald-faced lying a fine line or is it a wide chasm? Whichever it is, The Lancet and those who masturbate over its latest Iraqi war dead estimate have leapt across that line with ease.
A study published in the Lancet this week estimates that 654,965 Iraqis have died as a consequence of war since 2003. . . .
. . . The researchers—led by Gilbert Burnham of Johns Hopkins University—gathered data on more than 12,000 people in clusters of houses around Iraq, and tried to figure out how many people had died both before and after March of 2003. By comparing the pre- and post-invasion mortality rates, they figured out how many deaths could be attributed to the war, and then extrapolated from their sample to the country's entire population. [via Slate.com]
655,000 is roughly the population of Baltimore, Maryland, where Johns Hopkins University is located.
Historian Gwynne Dyer (who wrote the very readable book War, which pretty much made me want to be a history major) is against the Iraq war. He predictably gushed over the Lancet's study:
Johns Hopkins University, Boston University and MIT are not fly-by-night institutions, and people who work there have academic reputations to protect.
The Lancet, founded 182 years ago, is one of the oldest and most respected medical journals in the world.
Must be true then. These people couldn't possibly make a mistake. In fact, I bet the peer review process is waived for all studies coming out of JHU, BU, MIT, or the Lancet.
Riiiiight.
The most disturbing thing is the breakdown of the causes of death.
Over half the deaths -- 56 per cent -- are due to gunshot wounds, but 13 per cent are due to air strikes. No terrorists do air strikes. No Iraqi government forces do air strikes either because they don't have combat aircraft. Air strikes are done by "coalition forces" (i.e. Americans and British) and air strikes in Iraq have killed over 75,000 people since the invasion.
Oscar Wilde once observed that "to lose one parent ... may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness."
To lose 75,000 Iraqis to air strikes looks like carelessness, too.
Actually, blind acceptance of the Lancet's figures and methodology by a historian such as Dyer looks like carelessness to me.
Now, I didn't do too well in statistics, so I won't pick apart the Lancet's methodology, no matter how suspect it seems to me (it was based on interviews?!). But I do have a history background and the 655,000 number seemed wildly far-fetched to me the instant I saw it. Wildly far-fetched.
I immediately wondered why the study's authors had not considered placing the estimate into historical perspective. That would be a kind of "smell test," which I suspected the study might not pass.
Consider this. In 3½ years, the Lancet figures we have been responsible for 655,000 civilian deaths. (Not casualties, deaths. The term "casualty" includes missing, wounded and POWs.) For comparison, I simply went to two easily available sources: The Oxford Companion to World War II, and the often less reliable Wikipedia.
According to those two sources, Japanese civilian deaths in World War II ranged from 400,000 to 600,000. One generally expects the Wikipedia figure to be at the higher range, and that was true in this case. I also consulted Wings of Judgment, by Ronald Schaffer, a somewhat left leaning historian of the two World Wars. Shaffer gave an estimated range from 330,000 to 900,000 Japanese deaths (p. 14
, which coincidentally is almost exactly the range that the Lancet used for Iraqi civilian deaths (392,979 to 942,636).
Looking at all three sources, the Wikipedia estimate of 600,000 Japanese civilian deaths seems most reasonable. So the obvious question to me is this:
Are we to believe that the United States has killed more Iraqi civilians in the current war than we killed Japanese civilians during World War II?
I have no doubt that there are very many anti-war kooks who would not hesitate to believe that, but it sure doesn't pass the smell test to me.
Keep in mind that we attacked Japan repeatedly with unguided incendiary bombs in WWII, while we mostly relied on precision guided bombs when bombing Iraq. Also remember that the aerial bombing in Iraq occurred in the first three weeks of the war, and thereafter was only used to support certain offensives like in Fallujah, etc.
Keep in mind that the purpose of strategic bombing in WWII was to kill civilians and that we intentionally targeted Japanese civilians for over a year. In Iraq, we make a great effort to avoid civilian deaths. In fact, Iraqi civilian deaths are counter-productive to the war effort and can be used as a propaganda against us by our enemies, as the Lancet study proves.
Keep in mind that we flattened two Japanese cities in WWII with nuclear weapons, and that those attacks weren't even as deadly as the Tokyo firebomb raid in which three hundred B-29s burned the city to the ground and killed almost 100,000 civilians in one night. We bombed the crap out of Japan so thoroughly that we had pretty much run out of cities to destroy by the end of the war.
It was a lot easier to kill Japanese civilians by firebombing than it is to kill Iraqis today. The Lancet figures that most Iraqis (56%) were killed by gunshots, which is probably the least efficient way of killing mass numbers of people. Remember that Japanese civilians lived in houses made of paper and wood, and that the population density of Iraq is nothing compared to Japan in the 1940s. During the Tokyo raid, escape was near impossible. Shaffer wrote:
The fire storm quickly roasted those who stayed in under-house shelters. Alleys and small gardens filled with flaming debris. Shifting flames blocked exit routes. Abandoning their efforts to check the inferno, firemen tried to channel people across already burned areas, and where there was still water pressure they drenched people so they could pass through the fire. Some inhabitants ducked themselves in firefighting cisterns before moving. . . .
Choking inhabitants crawled across fallen telephone poles and trolley wires. As superheated air burned their lungs and ignited their clothing, some burst into flames, fire sweeping up from the bottoms of trousers or starting in the cloth hoods worn for protection against the sparks. Residents hurried from burning areas with possessions bundled on their backs, unaware that the bundles had ignited. Some women who carried infants this way realized only when they stopped to rest that their babies were on fire.
. . . Thousands submerged themselves in stagnant, foul-smelling canals with their mouths just above the surface, but many died from smoke inhalation, anoxia, or carbon monoxide poisoning, or were submerged by masses of people who tumbled on top of them, or boiled to death when the fire storm heated the water. [p. 134]
That is what it takes to kill 655,000 civilians. Death on that kind of scale is not something that can easily escape notice, yet there have been no such stories coming out of Iraq in the last three years. I'm not trying to minimize the horrible situation in Iraq, but some perspective is definitely in order. And the Lancet's estimate is so insanely exagerrated I can only conclude that the researchers are bald-faced liars.
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Killing 650,000 out of a population of 26 million would be about 2.5% of the population. That would be something in the neighborhood of communicating Sherman's message of war, i.e. "Don't fuck with us". We haven't done that.
Posted by: Casca at October 14, 2006 05:31 PM (2gORp)
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Maaaan, your post was so engrossing that I missed Suppan's homerun.
Posted by: Sarah at October 14, 2006 06:01 PM (7Wklx)
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I don't believe the air strike figure nor the 655,000 dead figure from the liberation of Iraq. I wonder if they counted morgues and Iraqi statistics kept by authorities put in place after the fall of Saddam. I wonder why they extrapolate to the entire country when the Kurd and some other ereas were not affected much by coalition military action.
I think that you are right when you say that these numbers do not pass the smell test, and your post gives some good reasons why not.
Posted by: Denny at October 14, 2006 06:29 PM (gN92I)
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This study, like the phony one they put out before, is being roundly discredited. It doesn't pass the smell test because it's BS.
Posted by: blu at October 14, 2006 08:15 PM (42Ozp)
67th Anniversary Of Case White
Today is the 67th anniversary of the beginning of World War Two in Europe. As you should remember, it began with the German invasion of Poland, which the Wehrmacht codenamed "Case White." (DANEgerus also reminds us that the Red Army invaded from the east sixteen days later.)
I think it's especially appropriate to pause today and think about that fateful moment in 1939, which led to the death of so many millions.
Many folks have noted that our situation now is not unlike the time before that first panzer crossed the Polish frontier. I'm one of them. I see the failure of our international institutions and the blindness of so many prominent figures and I think of the League of Nations, Chamberlain, Lindbergh, and Coughlin.
There is no cosmic law that says we can't re-ignite the horrors of World War Two for a new generation. The United States lost 293,000 brave men to the conflict, but almost zero civilians. We had it lucky. We were the saving heroes from across the water in that war. We won't be so lucky next time.
The bill from the last world war was staggering. Twenty-five million Soviet citizens, fourteen million Chinese, seven million Germans, six million Poles, two million Japanese, and on and on.
If you were a European Jew, a Philipino, a Chinese or Russian peasant, even a lowly German or Soviet conscript, your life was a hell in the 1940's. All because a handful of world leaders could not, or would not, stop the juggernaut of fascism.
The atrocities were so numerous, we've given them names: Bataan, Auschwitz, Malmedy, Nanking, Dachau, Katyn Forest, Lidice, Treblinka, the Burma Railway, and on and on.
We must also remember the unimaginably horrible deaths from new techniques of killing developed for the war by our side, and used at Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Tokyo, and on and on.
There are those who say we are on the precipice of World War Three right now. Others say it started five years ago. I am not going to argue with either viewpoint. Nor will I end this post with a pollyannish "don't worry, our leaders have things under control."
Because even if we were blessed with the greatest of statesman, which we're not, I don't know that it will be possible to avoid another trial of war brought upon us by evil men.
Some people insist our current enemies are not dangerous, or if they are, they're not evil. I'm at a point now where I don't think that argument matters a whole lot. Our enemies have their own agenda, and they will settle the issue in their own time. And we will have to fight them whether we're ready or not.
I looked up at the sky last night and saw a fiery meteor burn across the horizon. It was scary, though I knew it was no bigger than a coin. It made me think about how wise we think we are, yet how much there is we don't know. I wonder if there are intelligent beings who have been watching us these past hundred years. How they must laugh at our folly.
Posted by: Casca at September 01, 2006 06:42 AM (Z2ndo)
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I on the other hand think that Annika's post was excellent, and she is correct in stating that today's Europe is similar to 1930s Europe.
Today we see an alarming rise of anti-semitism in Europe. The violence against Jews, Jewish schools, and Jewish businesses is done today by Moslem gangs rather than Nazi ones. Governments are suppressing news of the violence today just as they did in the 30s so that the perpetrators are not offended.
The leaders of Islamic fascism speak daily on their goals of destroying European culture and their governments. Just as in the 1930s, government officials are ignoring those speeches partly because they don't believe the threats but mostly because they are scared of retaliation by the Fascists if they speak out.
The 1930's had Churchill who continually warned Europe about the threats but he was ignored because he was out of power. We are fortunate today that the leader who recognizes the threat is now in power. However, just as Churchill was ignored in Europe, Bush is today.
Posted by: Jake at September 01, 2006 07:43 AM (r/5D/)
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"Some people insist our current enemies are not dangerous, or if they are, they're not evil. I'm at a point now where I don't think that argument matters a whole lot."
Our friend, Keith Olbermann, in a response to Rumey's comments earlier in the week, attempted to use the example of WWII as an argument against the administration, comparing Bush's response to Islamo-fascism to Chamberlain's response to Hitler. (Don't even try to figure it out - you'll get a headache.) In was truly one of the most asinine and truly ignorant monologues I've ever heard. Is there a dumber person on cable who does a (supposedly) serious show?
So, when you are dealing with a Left that is so overwhelmingly ignorant and foolish, I guess you are correct not to worry about arguing. These people won't get it until its too late anyway.
Posted by: Blu at September 01, 2006 10:22 AM (Wc+84)
Posted by: Scof at September 01, 2006 11:19 AM (a3fqn)
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I linked this, and have a long post on the reactions of the British and French governments to the invasion, here.
Posted by: david foster at September 01, 2006 12:24 PM (/Z304)
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The open war with Islam is coming and WWII will look like a picnic compared to bloodshed that is about to happen.
My wish for a peaceful life for my teenage daughter, will not come true. She will knew the horrors of war, upclose. I will learn these horrors alongside her.
Posted by: Marvin at September 01, 2006 04:46 PM (ZROkT)
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Annika, your thoughts about the fiery meteor reminded me of a Chris de Burgh song:
And when I see a shooting star go flashing in the night,
I often wonder if some other beings also see the light,
And are they picking up our signals,
As they spin of into space,
Until the final act is over,
Until every man has spoken,
Until every summer's gone,
Until every battle's done,
Until the day,
Transmission ends, transmission ends;
Posted by: david foster at September 01, 2006 05:51 PM (/Z304)
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Blech, I've got a signal for you. I poop on your poetry. Is that sophistry, or simply banal ass-kissing. Blech!!
Posted by: Casca at September 01, 2006 10:13 PM (2gORp)
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"sophistry"?
"ass-kissing"?
..were those thoughts directed toward me, or toward Chris de Burgh?
Posted by: david foster at September 02, 2006 09:55 AM (/Z304)
Posted by: Casca at September 02, 2006 05:56 PM (2gORp)
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Only in the throes of deep narco therapy can one contemplate the immense escapism fostered by our MSM and accepted by about half of our population.
We are in the midst of WWIII no matter how you look at it. Some say it's been going on for five years or so, others say it is beginning, but there is no denying it is here and now, for those who understand the serious threat of Islamofascism.
We'll find out in early November if the silent majority that has continued to give the GOP a majority for the past few years since the Gingrich Revolution will stand fast or give way to the bleeding hearts. If they do give way, G_d help us all.
Annie is right; it is just the way she argues with herself out loud that leads us to believe that "In vino veritas" has new meanings since the 60's.
Posted by: shelly at September 03, 2006 06:46 PM (ZGpMS)
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I figure it's been going on since the Iranian Embassy fiasco and the unlamented Jimmy Carter presidency. We've only begun to fight back and there is a long list of payback due...
Posted by: MarkD at September 05, 2006 10:09 AM (oQofX)
Hurricane Katrina Anniversary
Tomorrow marks the one year anniversary of Hurricane Katrina's landfall on the Gulf Coast. Lots of bloggers are remembering the event, and I just want to point to two ways it touched my life.
The first was definitely the proudest moment for me as a blogger. This whole exercise in semi-regular public writing is pretty ridiculous most of the time. But last September I can honestly say we made a difference. By we, I mean you, the very generous visitors to annika's journal who pledged $2,250 for hurricane relief.
You folks really deserve congratulations, because you showed how beautiful you are. We outdid some real big time blogs,* as you can see from the final list. Special thanks to Shelly who added a lot of cheerleading and cajoling to his characteristic generosity last year.
The second thing was that I bought a gun and started a disaster preparedness kit. Even though some of the horror stories turned out to be exagerrated, what did happen was still pretty horrible. And it could happen anywhere. I grew up in Oakland and have witnessed my share of natural disasters, so I have no excuse not to be prepared. The one lesson we should all take from Katrina is that each one if us is responsible for his or her own safety. Don't ever count on the government to do it for you, it's your job, and they're not very good at it.
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* I didn't mention it at the time, because I thought it in bad taste (and maybe it still is) but I was really amazed at the sharp political division between the bloggers who joined in the fundraising and those who stood on the sidelines.
I did some informal research during the drive. I checked the biggies, like Kos etc, and they were on the ball. But I was curious about the smaller fish, so I started going down the list of the blogs listed as members of the League of Liberals. I actually went through the whole blogroll. Of those blogs that were still active, I was disappointed to see that the vast majority had absolutely no link to any charitable organization. That was despite the fact that most were not shy in hurling criticism at the administration (deserved) or at conservatives in general (undeserved). I seem to remember that there were only two blogs that had any charity hyperlinks. One of them put it up only after I left a scathing comment. And then it was to PETA or some sort of animal rescue org.
I acknowledge that my point is probably unfair. How do I know what these people donated in private? But the contrast between the left and right sides of the blogosphere back then really surprised me, and I think of it as kind of a watershed moment.
Posted by: Zack at August 29, 2006 01:54 AM (50VFA)
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IIRC, about one-fifth of N.O. cops walked off the job right after Katrina hit. Some of them were even looting.
Yeah, it would be a good idea to prepare for anarchy and arm oneself.
Posted by: reagan80 at August 29, 2006 09:17 AM (iyq/M)
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Just wondering how much water can any gun bail?
The devestation of Katrina was/is much greater than 9/11..
My wife and I went to NOLA in June to visit her neice...
Ya know how traffic slows on our commute because drivers want to see some fender bender? That delay bothers us more than this entire nation turning our back on what happend a year ago.
Our initial response as a nation to 9/11 was my proudest moment as an American. Our response to Katrina made me ashamed.
Posted by: nogo postal at August 29, 2006 02:27 PM (9KUOP)
Friday at the Park **Lunchtime Update**
I stepped out of the Metro at Farragut North, looked at my watch, and saw that I was more than an hour early for work. I'd be about 59 minutes early if I went straight to the office...
Instead, I took advantage of the new Pennsylvania Ave. location of my office and I decided to walk to the White House to see, with mine own eyes, the Code Pink Vigil/Fast. It's not every day I play tourist; this AM I looked the part: backpack w/ water bottle and camera in hand. Were it not for the long pants and leather shoes I think I would've looked like someone from out of town.
But Lafayette Park, across the street from the White House, was practically empty.
Baron von Steuben was there.
As was Andrew Jackson.
But no Code Pink, no Cindy Sheehan. It seems I was mistaken; the vigil in Lafayette Park is scheduled for 10 AM to 7 PM. My bad.
However, William Thomas and his dog were out there, as they have been every day since June of 1981 (working in shifts with Concepcion Picciotto), protesting against the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
You have to admire the courage of his convictions: Twenty-five years in one place...now, that's a vigil.
Also there was a newcomer, laptop on lap, protesting about Darfur:
Sadly, I did not chat with him, as I had to get to work. And I still do.
Reporting from Washington, for annika's journal, I'm Victor.
***Lunchtime Update***
I walked over to the park during my 30-minute (by choice) lunch break to take some pix of the anti-war protestors. It took me awhile to find them.
Falun Gong was there, en masse, protesting China's alleged organ harvesting (NOTE: A Canadian report on these allegations can be found here):
:
I'll try to post some video later at home.
Iranian protestors were there, about where the Darfur protestor from this morning was:
Note that was the Iranian flag while under the Shah.
I finally found the anti-war protestors when I turned around, against the White House fence:
I saw no counter-protestors.
Reporting from Washington for annika's journal, I'm Victor.
So scandalous was the first modern-day bikini that the only female free-spirited enough to pose in one was a stripper. Parisian engineer-turned-designer Louis Reard released the suit at a fashion shoot on July 5, 1946. It was cut high on the hip, but the really stunning feature was that it bared the navel, a part of the body that in modern history had been off-limits for public display.
The tiny two-piece shocker signaled the coming transformation of attitudes toward the body. Still, it would take more than a decade for most American women to get comfortable with wearing the skimpy suit.
The baring of the belly button was the big hurdle.
"I can't think of any situation in the thousand years before the '60s when it was acceptable to show the navel, '' said Kevin Jones, a curator and fashion historian at the Fashion Institute of Design & Merchandising in Los Angeles.
Maybe so, but as the article points out, the bikini wasn't invented in 1946. It was only re-introduced. According to Wikipedia (font of all knowledge) "Two-piece garments worn by women for athletic purposes have been observed on Greek urns and paintings, dated as early as 1400 BC."
Here's a scene from the famous Roman "bikini girls" mosaic at the Villa Romana del Casale in Italy, which dates to the early 4th Century A.D.
(The chick on the left demonstrates something the Romans liked to call "nipplae slipae.")
Over the course of this blog, I've done a couple of bikini related posts. Let's take a look back, shall we?
Two years ago, I linked to a swimwear poll, which revealed that 7 out of 10 women own a bikini, and California girls prefer low-rise bottoms, while East coast girls like a mid-rise.
Last winter, I went all out and did a bikini fashion preview. In that post I predicted that polka dots would be "in," and I was right. I saw polka dots all over the place. Speaking of nipus slipus, that was the post where I coined the term ""dunstation."
I'll probably toast the bikini's 60th birthday with a fruity drink and a swim after work. That sounds like a plan. How will you celebrate?
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You simply can't find this wonderful diversity of topics anywhere else in cyberland. Drew Carey said it best: Annika Rocks!
Posted by: Mike C. at July 06, 2006 06:30 PM (wZLWV)
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A blog on bikinis and you dont have the guts to get in one and show a pic? There goes your credibility. You would have fit in well pre1946.
Posted by: Jeff at July 06, 2006 07:09 PM (mQhCk)
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are you a premium subscriber Jeff? huh?
well then, you can't complain if you're not.
Premium subscribers to annika's journal get the following:
1. access to all of annika's journal photo archives
2. new photo shoots every day in a different costume
3. naked video chatting
all for only $1999.95 per month!
Posted by: annika at July 06, 2006 07:18 PM (fxTDF)
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I thought that would hit you where you lived. Im loving it!
Posted by: Jeff at July 06, 2006 07:40 PM (mQhCk)
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Move that decimal point two spots to the left an' we'll think about it
BTW, that 2nd link had an awful lot of Jessica Alba in it. Not that that's a bad thing. In fact, it's a good thing. Think I'm gonna bookmark it...
Posted by: ElMondoHummus at July 06, 2006 07:55 PM (nAE4x)
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Annika,
I still do my bikini shopping here
www.wickedweasel.com
These are some serious threads and down under women have some serious body issues!
Posted by: strawman at July 07, 2006 05:02 PM (G2Zzw)
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just window shopping i hope, strawman.
anyways those things are way too small for normal people to wear.
Posted by: annika at July 07, 2006 05:38 PM (fxTDF)
The Strange Case Of Leopold And Loeb
The following is a paper I did for an undergrad class almost ten years ago. I found it on my crappy old laptop, in a DOS directory if you can believe it. Funny how I still remember the basic DOS commands.
I haven't changed anything except for the first word of the essay, in reference to the year, and removal of the footnotes. I apologize for the excessive use of the passive voice, the unwieldy subordinate clauses, redundant modifiers and other hallmarks of a desperate undergrad's writing syle. Most everything I wrote back in those days was done at the last minute, with a hangover and barely proofread.
But I got a good grade, and it is on a subject of general interest and therefore blogworthy, I hope.
more...
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My test for the death penalty is who likely are they to commit the crime again. I don't care why they committed the crime, I think it is irrelevant to society's safety.
So I believe that Darrow's defense was stronger for execution than the prosecutors. Darrow gave convincing evidence that these two were long time criminals who killed without emotion or motive. A perfect definition of serial killers who are an extreme threat to society and thus must be eliminated.
Posted by: Jake at June 18, 2006 07:55 AM (r/5D/)
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Excellent paper, Annika. Well researched and well structured to boot.
Jake,
While L & L were clearly self-agrandizing sociopaths, a sentence of life in prison is sufficient to remove them from society for the sake of society's safety.
However, I've never been comfortable with the idea that a perp's absence of a "feeling of guilt" is enough to label him "insane" to any degree. As far as I'm concerned a cold-blooded killer should receive a slow a certain death -- preferably in public.
Simply saying "I don't believe it was wrong for me to kill that guy for giving me 'that look'," shouldn't get him off the hook. Er... noose.
Posted by: Tuning Spork at June 18, 2006 04:55 PM (ZQ9An)
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Somehow I always thought of the Columbine killers sort of the same way as L&L, people who had life too easy and no real connection with their parents of with morality. Given over to self obsession and nihlism.
Posted by: kyle8 at June 19, 2006 03:12 PM (4GLne)
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The nuns at the elementary school outside Chicago that I attended in the fities somehow segued to 2 stories that I found memorable. This was one. In the story, the 2 young men came upon the desirability of having this experience that they hadn't had before, killing someone. Without specific commentary, the nun conveyed a moral against looking at life as an existential menu. The other story was of John D. Rockefeller who was asked at a nintieth birthday party what he would like if he could have it. He said to be 19 again when he didn't have money and was making a way in the world. This was the other side of the coin and said accept your life without excessive worry or concern regarding status, accept it existentially but with respect for others.
One thing that is possibly missed in the understanding of the 2 criminals is the significance of the luminosity of their prior achievements, their graduations from noted colleges at times others would be starting. I imagine that mother or father for each may have driven them very hard. They may have imagistically reexperinced this as a thought to murder when they saw themselves as adults, pseudoparents, in relation to the younger boy.
Posted by: michael at June 20, 2006 06:31 PM (9Pd11)
Now that Al Zarqawi is getting fucked in the ass by his cellmates Pol Pot and Beria, I think we should celebrate the heroes who dropped the two 500 lb. JDAMs that killed him. Their victory is as historic at the one that occurred on April 17, 1943, also heralded as great news:
[A]s the mountains of Bougainville came into view [it was] 0934 when sharp-eyed Doug Canning called out "Bogeys, eleven o'clock. High." Mitchell couldn't believe it; there they were, right on schedule, exactly as planned. The Japanese planes appeared bright and new-looking to the pilots of the 339th. They jettisoned their drop tanks and bored in for the attack. Holmes and Hine had trouble with their tanks, only Barber and Lanphier of the killer group went after the Japanese bombers. All the other P-38s followed their instructions to fly cover.
. . . The Lightnings had waded into the Japanese flight, pouring forth their deadly streams of lead. In the manner of all aerial combat, the fight was brief, high-speed, and confused. . . .
. . . Both Lanphier and Barber claimed one bomber shot down over the jungles of Bougainville. Frank Holmes claimed another shot down over the water a few minutes later. From Japanese records and survivors, among them Admiral Ugaki, the following facts are certain. Only two Betty bombers were involved; Yamamoto's was shot down over Bougainville with no survivors; the second went into the ocean and Ugaki lived to tell about it. Shortly after the attack, a Japanese search party located the wreckage, including the Admiral's body, which they ceremonially cremated.
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The pilots uneventfully flew back to Guadalcanal, where upon landing, the ground personnel greeted them gleefully, like a winning football team. While Lanphier and Barber briefly disagreed about the air battle, all was subsumed in the generally celebratory atmosphere. Lanphier later recalled enjoying his best meal of the war that night.
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Here's some interesting analysis from Hewitt on Al Zarqawi's death:
"Here's the key analysis you won't hear on MSM today: Had we not invaded Iraq, Zarqawi would not be dead today, but rather ensconced in some Baghdad safe house or larger encampment plotting more savagery. Had we not invaded Iraq, Saddam's decision menu today would be how much or little assistance to give Zarqawi, followed by the allocation of bribes to his various U.N. oil-for-food stooges, followed by succession planning with his mad-as-hatter sons."
It's a great day every time one of these people goes to meet their virgins.
Posted by: Blu at June 08, 2006 07:56 AM (RZ8UN)
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I'm not sure, but it sounded like they made two passes each on Fox News. That would be four, not two JDAMS.
My guess is that they were sitting down to dinner, based on the time and dishes shown on all the clips.
Too bad; it would have been better to show them on the prayer rugs.
I hope he enjoys the 72 Janet Reno clones.
Posted by: shelly at June 08, 2006 08:38 AM (BJYNn)
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It's bigger than just the death of Z being wiped from the face of the earth. Gen Caldwell briefed that we simultaneously hit 17 other sites. That means that we've developed this intel for a long time, and when we struck, it was at a moment of our choosing, and we rolled up his whole network at one time. That's incredible!
The missing story here is the story of how the intel was developed over time. These are the guys who put the firepower and the trigger puller in that piece of air at the right time for Yamamoto and Zarqawi to meet their maker. I wish that I could buy them a drunk tonight!
Posted by: Casca at June 08, 2006 08:42 AM (rEC2k)
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We joke about the 72 ugly virgins, but in all seriousness, there are no virgins. He went straight to hell.
Posted by: annika at June 08, 2006 09:25 AM (zAOEU)
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I bet you are the only blogger in the world with the smarts to link Yamamoto with Zarqawi. The death of Yamamoto was a tremendous blow to the Japanese.
Maybe the crazy man in Iran will have second thoughts about his quest to rule the world.
Posted by: Jake at June 08, 2006 09:28 AM (sDM7g)
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I dunno... I see something wrong with the way Z-man died last night: It wasn't slow and painful enough... f***'er deserved a painful handful of last moments as payback for what he's done to his Iraqi victims, not just a bright flash and whoop, it's over.
But, you take what you get. Good riddance. I don't normally have anything positive to say about the fact that someone died -- normally, that's a tragedy -- but frankly, this was less a human dying and more a tumor getting excised. Good f***in riddance.
Posted by: elmondohummus at June 08, 2006 10:31 AM (Sf/1c)
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I think the greater thanks go to the SOF troops that were there on the ground, guiding the CAP in. They are the ones that went in immediately after to do a BDA (bomb damage assessment). Maybe they should bury old a-Z in the nearest pig-pen.
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These are the guys who put the firepower and the trigger puller in that piece of air at the right time for Yamamoto and Zarqawi to meet their maker.
Posted by: Thomas Greene at June 08, 2006 11:51 AM (b7Tng)
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Hey Blu,
I must agree and not the least bit grudgingly, a great day this sick misguided Islamist piece of shit is dead. Of course, it remains to be seen what affect it will have on the course of events as they are unfolding or one might say unravelling in Iraq.
I will not however agree that his death is justification for destroying Iraq, but you already knew that.
Posted by: strawman at June 08, 2006 03:14 PM (G2Zzw)
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One small correction, the AirForce office who was on Fox this AM said the lead F-16 attacked with a 500 lb LGB. F-16 #2 dropped a JDAM.
Posted by: wayne at June 09, 2006 07:00 AM (y6dNe)
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"We joke about the 72 ugly virgins, but in all seriousness, there are no virgins. He went straight to hell."
No Annika,
You're wrong. The virgins ARE there. It's just that they STAY virgins. THAT's why it's called Hell!!
Posted by: Bat Guano at June 09, 2006 08:17 AM (mkw7u)
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Thanks for mentioning Yamamoto--it's interesting to imagine how the shootdown would have been covered by today's media (see my post here.)
Although he certainly merited killing, I don't think Yamamoto was on the same level of evil as Zarqawi. He orchestrated an aggressive war, and fought for a government that committed many atrocities. But I don't think there is any evidence that he was a personal sadist in the Zarqawi mold.
Posted by: David Foster at June 09, 2006 08:42 AM (/Z304)
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Everyone, I gotta go with David Foster on this one. Zarqawi was a human cancer with no honor. Yamamoto was western educated, and if I remember my history correctly, was one of the few opposing war with the US. Remember, he was the one who spoke the words about America being the "sleeping giant" that was awakened by the Pearl Harbor attack. And, according to one biography (this one, I think), he spent the remainder of the day of the attack rather depressed. In short, he sounded alarms about the impossibility of success (there was another quote attributed to him, trying to remember from where (historians, help me out please!) where he promises that he can run the tables on the US for around 6 months, but after that, he had "no expectations of success", or something like that) and basically only fought out of duty and honor, not bloodthirsty destructiveness or delusional nihilisim like Z-man.
In short, everything I remember reading about him was that he was a clear headed, non-delusional, honarable enemy, a legitimate and neccessary target, but orders of magnitude removed from a human stain like Zarqawi. Not to condone or forgive his part in Pearl Harbor, an unpardonable act in the overall view of history; I say the above to underline that he was nowhere near being the subhuman thug that Zarqawi was.
Posted by: elmondohummus at June 09, 2006 11:20 AM (xHyDY)
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Here's my shameless self-promotion... all that predator feed... I'm responsible for that communications link here in Ramstein, DE
. Theoretically I've been responsible for the deaths of thousands
. JK. Peace out Annika.
Posted by: trisa at June 10, 2006 03:24 PM (Rhuwm)
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True to another readers comments... Yamamoto wore his uniform and didn't try and hide amongst Japanese civilians to try and gain leverage. But then again terrorists aren't exactly known for their honor. After all... what, WHAT religion condones and promotes such unabashed killing of people? Perhaps they should look a little deeper at what such a benign, loving deity might request. My only hope for Zarqawi was that he had actually lived. To be taken into custody by 'infidels' is far greater shame to Muslims than the shame that ancient Samurai felt when compelled to impale themselves over swords... Now his status has raised to 'martyr' whereas if we'd imprisoned him he would have been 'impotent.' BUT considering the freakin US of good ol' A let the 20th hijacker of 9/11 (the greatest tragedy since Pearl Harbor) off for life in prison; perhaps a swift and certain death of Zarqawi was the best route indeed. Again... peace out my friend Annika!
Posted by: trisa at June 10, 2006 03:51 PM (Rhuwm)
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Annika,
A very sad day indeed. Terrible to see the the workings of authoritarianism at it's worst.
However, to one degree or another ALL societies will kill those that they feel are determined to overthrow the government or seriously destroy or intend to harm the "civil order" or ignore the rule of law.
Most countries have in their histories many examples of horrors committed against civilians that were asking or demanding what you, I think, simplistically call "freedom".
How different was the assination of Fred Hampton and other Black Panthers? Or the army shooting students at Kent state? Or the Nepalese King fighting the "maosists" who in fact were simply insisting on a return to a parlimentary democracy? Or the brutal strike breaking of the 20's and 30's? Or the black listing and harassment of Americans by the FBI in the early 50's? Or the Samoza death squads? And what would it have looked like had the voters of Alambama rioted, and been killed by the hundreds by the army in Montgomery? Could one have said all they wanted was the freedom to run their state the way they wanted?
The victors write the history books.
There are thousands of examples in the 20th century of government oppression and murder around the globe.
Our President shakes hands with these people every day, pats them on the back and looks into their eyes and sees........ money and keeps his mouth shut. Nobody has done any differently in America that I can remember. We Like that slug Kaddafi now that he willing to talk about oil sales, before that he was a terrorist supporting "Saddam" and the bomber of flight 103. But I guess he went to sensitivity training and had an epiphany like our marines from Haditha will. How many Iraqi's are frighting for their freedom from our immoral occupation?
Tiennamin was horrific and dramatic but not special or unique. Just well covered on television in a country that prides itself on protecting "freedom" while frequently doing the opposite.
We feel better about our transgressions when viewing thoses of others. Especially when they are commies posing as capitalists buying the notes on our houses.
Posted by: strawman at June 06, 2006 10:16 AM (G2Zzw)
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Strawman,
What a bunch of sophmoric babble. You managed to mix moral relativism, partisan talking points, distorted history, and a strawman or two all at once. Talk about a toxic brew. I don't have enough time during a work day to respond to such nonsense. Where does one even begin? However, you were able to cram 3 or 4 posts worth of BS into just 1. So congrats on achieving excellent efficiency.
Posted by: Blu at June 06, 2006 01:56 PM (RZ8UN)
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Blu,
Thanks pal, coming from another purulent purveryer of bullshit I am pleased.
But the images of Tinenemin un-contextualized are just propaganda. As I said before sympathy for the innocent lives lost is too simple; they cannot just be morned without some reflection on the notion of freedom in America as well as in China and how there is a straight line to Iraq and our "not like the Chinese" protection of freedom that becomes our rationale for nation destruction and world hegemony disguised as the answer to Annika's "all they wanted was freedom" Boo Fucking Hoo!
Are you trying to tell me you don't owe the Chinese any money?
Posted by: strawman at June 06, 2006 04:21 PM (G2Zzw)
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Straw,
"There are thousands of examples in the 20th century of government oppression and murder around the globe."
-And 40 million of those examples were killed by the Maoist in China, 40 million Ukrainian peasants, zeks, and other undesirible lives were extiguished by the C.C.C.P., 3 million by Pol Pot, a million or so in the Balkans shot through the neck by Tito.
-Some can tolerate the wholesale, systematic, calculated, state sanctioned murder of tens of millions as long as there's a sociallist finger on the trigger, but cannot hide their indignation over 4 kids at Kent State or a few punks with concussions at the University of Wisconsin who were, ironically, protesting a war to contain the expansion of the murderous Marxists.
Posted by: Jasen at June 06, 2006 07:39 PM (NNc2j)
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The two systems are vastly different and history shows that although ours isn't perfect, it is morally superior to theirs. Just in human toll even in our darkest days (Civil War) we can't hold a candle to Soviet casaulties under Stalin, just as one example.
Innocents have lost thier lives on our soil but it's a rare occurence compared with our sikel & starred friends. We've had embarrassing moments but I'm all for killing to protect our form of government, if that's what it takes.
Posted by: Mike C. at June 06, 2006 07:43 PM (wZLWV)
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"How different was the assination of Fred Hampton and other Black Panthers? Or the army shooting students at Kent state?"
Well, let me see...hmmm.....??Oh, I know! You see, I can read about both of these from a number of sources, including sources available in public, government-sanctioned schools. (Hey, Straw, do you think the youth of China get to see that video or learn about the fateful day in government schools? What do you think would happen to the teacher who dared to show that video?) And you know what, Straw? If I do actually read about these events you used as such shining examples of moral equivalence, my government won't put a bullet in my brain and send my family the bill.
"And what would it have looked like had the voters of Alambama rioted, and been killed by the hundreds by the army in Montgomery?"
Nice Strawman, Strawman!
"Or the black listing and harassment of Americans by the FBI in the early 50's?"
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the Rosenbergs were innocent, right Straw? Perhaps, you haven't kept up on the volumes of documentation that has come out the former USSR proving that Soviets were actively trying to integrate themselves into the American entertainment industry throughout the mid-20th century.
"Our President shakes hands with these people every day, pats them on the back and looks into their eyes and sees........ money and keeps his mouth shut."
Really? What world leader did he shake hands with today that then went home and ran over his people with tanks and shot them indiscriminately? Nice imagery, Straw, but your comment is devoid of specifics and any intellectual content. Just because youÂ’d like something to be true or it sounds really neat when you write it, doesnÂ’t make it true.
"Tiennamin was horrific and dramatic but not special or unique."
Maybe not in Cuba, China, the former USSR, or other communist countries, Straw. But certainly unique from the perspective of Western democracies.
“But the images of Tinenemin un-contextualized are just propaganda.”
Oh really? What context do you suppose that video requires, Straw? You want to make that asinine statement to one of the parents who lost a child? Perhaps if you put it in the right “context,” the parent will feel better. Maybe, you could explain that their child was an enemy of the State (and thus “the people”) and, therefore, Comrade Mao dictates that the person must be killed. Heck, maybe you could provide them with a copy of your very own little Red Book.
Hey Straw, when Rodney King got the shit beat of him by all those police and it was caught on video, were you in the middle of South Central demanding the folks keep the video in proper context? Yeah, I can just imagine you walking up to a large group of black men in South Central, looking them in the eye, and saying “Boo Fucking Hoo!” Yeah, that would be interesting.
Posted by: Blu at June 06, 2006 08:13 PM (RZ8UN)
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This video's a good reminder to South Koreans about the country they want to cozy up to in their haste to divorce themselves from America. I've long said that China will be a much harsher mistress than the US ever was. Is Korea in such a hurry to return to being China's vassal state?
As an American who lives in Asia and now has some understanding of the Asian viewpoint, I'll say this: things work more slowly in Asia. The seeds of democracy have been planted, and there are people of conscience quietly working toward a better day in China. Take heart: think in terms of centuries, not decades. Not an easy task for us Americans; we like instant solutions. But right now, in China, a quiet group of Michelangelos is chipping away at the monolith of communism. Trust that there's a Lady Liberty hidden inside, stronger than any stone.
It may not be happening fast enough, but it's happening. People haven't forgotten.
Kevin
Posted by: Kevin Kim at June 07, 2006 03:08 AM (TDwc6)
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Blu,
Time for just a few thoughts tonight.
Why pick on Ethel and Julius when I said thousands?
The beating of RK was in context. LA cops are a reliably racist enty and that incident was a perfect example and consistant with the data.
And more importantly to you and all the others:
My criticism of the democracy's of the planet, ours in particular DOES NOT MEAN I condone or don't abhor the atrocities of ALL GOVERNMENTS! Marxist, Leninist, Capitalist. ALL, I am not sympathic to the CHinese and felt they were BAD PEOPLE. Jeezz! Please read and do not infer what I have not implied.
I just do not feel the atrocities, diminished as they may be,(although Iraq is pretty major as was Vietnam), of America get a pass because others do worse! Do you? America does way better than the Soviets did, the Chinese and most others, but sometimes she gets it real wrong and it must be acknowledged and if persitant it must be attacked no less vociferously than if it were the Chinese.
Jasen,
YOu are the punk ass as are all who stand on the sidlines and applaud as the democracy they cherish get trampled because the violence pleases their cowardly angry hearts.
I was beaten and gassed in Madison in '67,( and dozens of time hence) and saw heads cracked open and the only punks there were guys like you who though they had lost a great opportunity to get interviewed by Dow Chem and whined that their rights were abridged. My answer then as it is now Boo fucking hoo! Dickweed.
KevinKim-
I certainly hope you are right. Generally I think of the adage about the wheat bending to the wind when I think of the long range outcome and unfortunately I don't envision the wind as democracy.
Posted by: strawman at June 07, 2006 05:37 PM (G2Zzw)
Great Men Honored By A Great Man In A Hallowed Place
I cannot hear this speech without breaking up when he gets to the words "Why... why did you do it?"
This was one of a handful of truly great speeches of the post war era. It's closing lines are what Memorial Day is all about.
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Very good stuff Annika. I remember seeing this live, or nearly so and enjoying it back then too.
It's hard to believe that one day there will be no one from the 'Greatest Generation' left.
I was flabbergasted both times Clinton won, not so much because of his record or philosophy but, because he beat WWII heroes both times. I simply found this amazing.
Nice Memorial Day tributes!
Posted by: Mike C. at May 29, 2006 12:57 PM (Ffvoi)