July 31, 2006
I'm Back!
I got back on Friday, but I haven't posted since then due to a combination of jet lag, catching up with family, saying goodbye to Chris, and spending hours on the phone with Indian tech support because Verizon sucks. But I'm back and I'm afraid I've forgotten how to blog.
Many thanks to Victor for doing such a wonderful job holding down the fort! Have a great vacation dude!
I took a bunch of pictures but most of them turned out boring. I'll post some more later. For now, here's a couple I thought turned out nice.
That's a picture from Copenhagen, taken near the Kastellet army barracks. You can see how nice the weather was.
We met these two ladies on our way to my aunt and uncle's farm on Jutland.
And we watched a potter make stuff like this by hand at the Skansen theme park in Stockholm.
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hI aNNIKA,
Welcome home! It sounds as if you trip was a great success. I was envious of your day at Louisiana and pleased at the recolections it brought me of my day there in 1972! Thanks for the great description. If I get around to it I'll scan a few pictures I have and send them. B&W tri x pan shot with my Nikon F-1. That dates them (and me) for sure.
As for blogging,(i'll spare you the aphorisms about bicycles and sex) I have noticed a serious reticence on everyones part to talk about how well the Bush doctrine is going in Iraq and what wonders the specter of democracy is creating. I know I'm thrilled! Gosh, if dead bodies were rose petals this could be democracy's coronation march.
How did you find people in Denmark disposed toward our band of devils and their handiwork?
Posted by: Strawman at August 01, 2006 07:33 AM (G2Zzw)
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Strawman:
The Bush doctrine is working better at controlling American deaths in Iraq than corrupt Democrat regimes in Detroit and Washington DC in controlling American deaths in their cities.
Much to the dismay of all left-wingers, American liberation of Iraq has prevented Iran from moving their armies into Israel through Syria and Lebanon. Thus Bush has prevented the third Holocaust.
Posted by: Jake at August 01, 2006 08:48 AM (r/5D/)
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Well Straw, I think you're full of crap but thanks for stirring things up a bit. It's been a little slow on the political side of things lately.
Jake, I think your post is interesting. There is a whole lot to write concerning Iraq and its impact on all things related to the Middle East.
One thing is certain though: the Left and the MSM are back to their moral relativism/Blame Israel mode. Few things upset me as much as (most) liberals' refusal to acknowledge that Israel simply defends itself while the goal of Muslim pond scum is to literally wipe Israel off the map. It should be obvious to any sane person. But if you read the papers, there is an absolute refusal to acknowledge that one side is pure evil. To me, it is the equivalent of writing about WWII with the mind-set that the Allies and Hitler were morally equal.
Posted by: Blu at August 01, 2006 10:34 AM (LXOfu)
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p.s. Straw, my condolences on the illness of one of your heroes. You doing anything special to try and aid in his recovery? Do have an address where I might send flowers?
Posted by: Blu at August 01, 2006 11:54 AM (j8oa6)
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Don't turn around
uh oh oh
Der annika's in town
oh uh oh
Posted by: Scof at August 01, 2006 02:39 PM (a3fqn)
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It's always that way when you return after a long journey. The first thing you see is the last repulsive cocksucker that you wanted to see. It's simple Newtonian physics.
Posted by: Casca at August 01, 2006 03:28 PM (2gORp)
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Hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!
Posted by: reagan80 at August 01, 2006 03:31 PM (dFOlH)
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Hey Blu,
Glad youÂ’re feeling his pain. I think if you just sent it % of his name, General Delivery, Havana, Cuba, he will probably get it. ThatÂ’s what I did and I got a nice card back.
Oh, please Jake, Iranian armies would just be driving willy nilly through the desert if not for your dictator GB? Really? Do you suppose the Iranians are ready to invade Israel? Or that the incursion into Lebanon would have caused them to do something suicidal? The governments of Syria and Iran know that the IDF would eat them alive even if they are treyf. Do you get up each morning and make up shit about your “fearless leader” to endear yourself to the block captain? Need another star on your cap? Bush & Co. has bungled the entire operation from the deceits at the start to the military mission, to the government building, the corrupt contract letting and performance (you saw they canned Bechtel because they couldn’t build one fucking hospital?), the torture and murder, water, and power. The sick thing is that when he put on his clown suit on the carrier deck, he most likely thought the operation was over and honestly believed what he said. The man is a clueless dolt who couldn’t imagine a “doctrine” let alone spell it, create the outline describing it, or smell it if he stepped in it. Israel doesn’t give a shit about him or what he Condi do or think.
Blu, I don't find moral equivalence between Hezz and the Israel's, but I do recognize that we live in a world containing players and bystanders and to refuse to understand this is to take the moral low road regardless of your enemyÂ’s posture. Whether the Geneva accords condemn a fighter who hides in the midst of non-combatants or not, a nation can and ought to exhibit restraint and exhibit a higher regard for innocent life than what the rules might allow. Podhorentz, that pompous fat fuck argued this morning that since Hezz was (possibly) hiding in that apartment block the Jews bore no responsibility for the 56 or so dead non-combatants. This is nonsense. Israel must defend herself and the incursion to destroy Hezz etc, has my support but caution and some restraint must be exercised. This is not a battle where to do less than all out is going to threaten IsraelÂ’s existence
Posted by: stawman at August 01, 2006 03:37 PM (G2Zzw)
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Lucky for me I haven't had any recent problems with Verizon DSL. Last time I did, it was a pain to fix.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at August 01, 2006 05:16 PM (xJ+oA)
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Straw,
I could quibble with some of what you wrote regarding Israel, but for you it was fairly reasonable. I don't think anybody would argue that caution should be used. But those 56 people are dead because of Hez and because of a cowardly Lebanese govt that allows Hez to exist without restraint. More civilians will be killed because Hez wants that to happen - it actually helps their cause. It's guarantees that some dumb fucking French socialist prick is going to scream "disproportionate response" (while the MSM echo chamber dutifully writes done and repeats the chant) and that Kofi will go on TV and prove once again that he is an amazingly dumb man and an anti-semite.
Posted by: Blu at August 01, 2006 07:59 PM (LXOfu)
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BLu,
That's like saying the 250,000 dead in Hiroshima, or Dresden, Or Tokyo were killed because their government should not have gone to war and the blame resides with Japan or Germany. It is an argument that has a simple and easy to understand ring to it but it is not the truth. They were, for better or worse, killed by american bombs. Even in all out war, were I the decision maker, human life, even my enemy's, must not be diminished to zero. Strategic options must always be weighed against loss of civilian lives. To do anything less is to forfit your claim to being civilized.
Posted by: Strawman at August 01, 2006 08:34 PM (G2Zzw)
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Straw,
The bombs we dropped on Japan saved more lives than they took. We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I do think that the innocents who were killed by our bombs in Japan and Germany died because of their govts. Yours is a reasonable argument, and I know some share it. I just don't agree with it.
Posted by: Blu at August 01, 2006 09:10 PM (LXOfu)
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Blu,
Agreed. But...........
One is the 5000 year tradition of Judeo-christian and probably all religious philosophy and the other is a very modern, pragmatic militaristic strategy that makes self serving presumptions and than proceeds to kill hundred's of thousands as if they are undeniable truths. Too many if's and too many dead.
Posted by: strawman at August 02, 2006 08:18 AM (G2Zzw)
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July 27, 2006
I'm Still Here
I was in the middle of a long post about Sweden, and after saying something critical, got booted off the machine. And they say Scandinavia is a free society.
So I'll make this short. The internet in our hotel is free but there's like a zillion kids around here and they all want on, so I got to get off.
The funniest thing about Sweden is the opportunity to make up new names for the indecipherable Swedish names.
For instance, many streets are named for simians. There's Smart Orangutan, Western Orangutan, and Stork Orangutan. There's a bank called Foreskin Ring Bank. There's a palace called Cunnilingus Slot. Hahaha! It's right next to Storky Can!
The differences between Denmark and its old rival Sweden were unexpected. Danes are better looking, more homogenous, friendlier and blonder. Sweden has better food, more fat people, more diversity, and much more spectacular architecture.
Swedes are so proud of the fact that they were once a great power. I don't get it. The key word is "once." Sure they had a few great years back in the 1600s, but come on. Get over yourselves, guys. What have you done lately? Okay, IKEA, besides that.
I also noticed that Danish chicks all have perfect skin. I'm totally jealous. Also perfect feet. Not a callous or bunyan in the whole country. My theory is that they must wear thick and comfy socks all winter, while we in the rest of the world jam our feet into tight but fashionable shoes.
While chicks wear flip-flops almost exclusively in Copenhagen, in Stockholm the most common shoe is the mesh front slipper that I hate. In the working class city of Århus, on Jutland, it's a about half and half.
Two things are noticeably absent from both countries. No homeless people and no Starbucks. Not a single one. So they got that going for them. I realize this might explain the way that Scandinavians can afford their heavy taxation. If you consider all the money I needlessly hand over to Starbucks and homeless people on a regular basis, I could probably just send that money to the government. There's how we can fund the safety net!
It's been unseasonably warm here, although not as hot as in SoCal, from what I hear. It's been low 80s all trip long, although it drizzled one morning when we were in Copenhagen. I'm glad I didn't bring the leather jacket.
We've been eating like pigs since we got to Stockholm. We're going to fly out tomorrow, and as soon as we get back it will be time for a strict diet. Chris says it's not as bad as I think, since we've been burning so many calories walking, but the danger is the temptation to go on eating at the same rate after we return.
Well, that's it for now. We're taking it easy today and doing some shopping. Chris and I had a late night at some Irish pub in Old Town, watching Celtic get beat by Man U.
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Tolja Sweden sucked as much as Denmark.
Come home; we won't kick you off the net.
Posted by: shelly at July 27, 2006 12:29 AM (BJYNn)
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Hope you managed to get off OK!
Posted by: Victor at July 27, 2006 02:33 AM (l+W8Z)
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Victor's tired of the abuse and hard work.
I hope your flight home is comfortable, because Sacratomato is broiling. You can fry eggs on the sidewalk and no one in their right mind would be there unless they had to be.
Posted by: shelly at July 27, 2006 07:52 AM (BJYNn)
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Guess again, Shelly. I work in the IT department of a gigantic law firm; I can take abuse and I always work hard.
Posted by: Victor at July 27, 2006 09:27 AM (L3qPK)
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Maybe we should open a Starbucks/homeless shelter there. It might have potential - LOL!
Posted by: Greta (Hooah Wife) at July 27, 2006 11:26 AM (R2h9W)
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Oooooooooooo, GRETTTAAA, the hoohaa wife! I like a gal with a hoohaa.
Posted by: Casca at July 27, 2006 03:33 PM (2gORp)
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Either the Swedes are too smart to pay $3.50 for a cup of coffee or too poor.
Posted by: Jake at July 27, 2006 03:35 PM (r/5D/)
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Well, know we know that Starbucks is the cuase of homelessness, I know those liberals were up to no good.
Posted by: kyle8 at July 27, 2006 04:52 PM (ffyea)
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Any lawyer who abuses his IT people ought to have his head examined.
Of all the people that can screw you and your career at a law firm, they are right at the tip top.
It is truly more stupid than abusing waiters, who just spit (or worse) in your food.
Posted by: shelly at July 28, 2006 01:52 AM (BJYNn)
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July 21, 2006
Hello From København!
Hello everybody. As I write this, I'm sitting in an internet cafe on Vesterbrogade in the great city of København. Hey, there's a key for "ø" here! Victor, you might be interested to know that there's a protest going on right outside this place at this very moment. Bunch of dirty white dudes chanting along with an Immam. The same old shit you're seeing over there, I'm sure. The crowd is about 100, I'd guess. Che t-shirts are well represented. Now they're shouting "death to Israel" in arabic. Yes, it's one of the few arabic phrases I recognize. There's also a flag of Hezbollah, and an American flag with skulls instead of stars. Ho-hum.
Anyways, not much to say. Købanhavn is not really that interesting, as my parents warned me. It's hot and sticky, about 80 degrees, although it rained today which was nice. The sun goes down at 10 and gets up at 4. The food is well prepared and tasty, but give me Iberian or Italian food anytime. I still haven't found a good danish.
Yesterday we saw many museums, including the Danish History, The Danish Art, and the Museum of Danish Resistance, which was the best of the three. We saw the Little Mermaid, which I guess is some kind of must see. I'll post pictures when I get back, if my internet is up by then.
Oh the flight over was at least 24 hours long. We thought we'd get DVT for sure. Who knew there'd be a massive lightning storm on the East Coast, which royally fucked up our travel route?
One vignette before I sign off. We went to Louisiana today, which is totally worth the trip. No lie, it may be the best modern art museum I've ever been to. They do modern art right. There's an excellent video art installation, and the Paol K... (can't remember his last name but Strawman digs him) design exhibit was fantastic. And the grounds were gorgeous.
There's a bluff overlooking the Øresund, and you can see Sweden in the distance. And there's also a garden (have) with lots of maze-like trails and a long slide and little wooden forts with tunnels and shit all along the hillside. And a running stream. I thought it was strange that there were no Danish kids running around in that park. If me and my brother had gone there when we were little, we would have tore that place up! We'd have gotten so muddy, they'd never have let us back into the museum. Any American kid would. As it was, me and Chris had a great time playing around that garden like a couple of little kids!
Oh there were plenty of Danish kids at the museum, but they were all inside a white room at a white table drawing pictures of furniture under the tutelage of a stern Danish babysitter. How sad! In microcosm, I guess that says something about the difference between America and Denmark. They'll keep making great furniture, while we'll keep pushing the envelope and bustin' things up, but having fun at the same time.
Well, tomorrow we're off to Jutland to stay for a couple of days with my aunt and uncle. Then we go to Sweden. Hopefully I can check in with you again.
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I've planted some Lingonberry shrubs this year, which are of Swedish origin. If you run across any Ligon jam, let me know what you think of it. And enjoy your trip!
Posted by: will at July 21, 2006 09:37 AM (h7Ciu)
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Didja get pix of the protesters?
Shelly has been asking about you; I've a hunch he'll be ecstatic you've posted. It's a tough crowd here, annika, but rest assured I'm up to the task.
Posted by: Victor at July 21, 2006 10:45 AM (L3qPK)
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An American flag with skulls instead of stars? That actually sounds kinda cool. I want one!
Posted by: Tuning Spork at July 21, 2006 06:58 PM (CIjrb)
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"Oh there were plenty of Danish kids at the museum, but they were all inside a white room at a white table drawing pictures of furniture under the tutelage of a stern Danish babysitter. How sad!"
For some reason this made me think of all of the 60's English rock stars who did time in dreary art schools. As far as I know, they did NOT take classes such as "How to Pose With a Guitar," "The Care and Feeding of Groupies," or "New Advances in Cannibiology."
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at July 22, 2006 01:03 AM (jkpbF)
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"They'll keep making great furniture, while we'll keep pushing the envelope and bustin' things up, but having fun at the same time."
It's wonderful to confirm what we already know about other countries but haven't necessarily seen. When confronted with strike signs and locked doors at the Louvre my brother asked, "how does something like this happen?" I told him that's just the way it is in France, perhaps speculating- since it was my first visit and I had never actually lived there. Some French ladies (pretending not to understand English) overheard me and laughed.
Cultures are powerful things and alot of generalizations are true even if not politically correct.
Hope the rest of your trip goes well! (Sorry about the Thunderstorms. Living in Cali you may not realize that we often have something called 'weather' in the rest of the country!)
P.S. I do love Scadinavian furniture, can't believe you haven't found a decent Danish!
Posted by: Mike C. at July 22, 2006 09:33 PM (y6n8O)
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I hear they serve "beir" at McDonald's. True?
Posted by: Tuning Spork at July 22, 2006 10:15 PM (WD/+N)
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Tolja Copenhagen sucked. Sweden, too. Try Amsterdam.
How much is Victor paying you for this gig?
Posted by: shelly at July 23, 2006 07:59 AM (BJYNn)
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Heh, we have weather... warm, and HOT! It was 99 fucking degrees at Lindburgh Field yesterday, and humid too!! For those not in the know, Lindburgh is the airport in downtown San Diego, and sits right on the water. At the beach in Coronado, the wind off the ocean was actually warm and humid, whew.
Give my best to Jellicoe.
Posted by: Casca at July 23, 2006 09:26 AM (2gORp)
Posted by: Jane at July 23, 2006 09:51 AM (Ffvoi)
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Take photos! It's always fun to view the world from the perspective of an American abroad. What's 'Iberian food'? I know where it is, just wondering about the cuisine. I live near New Iberia, but their food tastes the same as mine.
Posted by: Kevin at July 23, 2006 11:50 AM (++0ve)
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Humidity in Socal? Holy cow someone call the weather police.
Actually that's a bit harsh. My apologies Cas. I know you cats get some bad marine fog in there regularly but it's not exactly Tornado Alley either. In fact I'd go as far as saying you folks enjoy the finest weather (or lack thereof) in the country. It may be a little warm (hot) right now but overall it's a great place temperature wise year round.
Am I envious? Yes, I suppose I am.
Posted by: Mike C. at July 23, 2006 06:42 PM (y6n8O)
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Charles Lindbergh (like in "The Spirit of St. Louis") would be surprised to find that San Diego had misspelled his name on that cow pasture they call an "International Airport".
Of course it is humid there; all the sweat of our Mexican brothers is being blown north to land in the bay.
Posted by: shelly at July 23, 2006 07:40 PM (BJYNn)
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LMAO, heh fucker, you KNOW I'm the product of a public education, or lack thereof.
Posted by: Casca at July 23, 2006 10:03 PM (2gORp)
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LMAO, heh fucker, you KNOW I'm the product of a public education, or lack thereof. Plus, I'm usually well lubricated.
Posted by: Casca at July 23, 2006 10:03 PM (2gORp)
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I had wanted to comment on the original NITA entry, but couldn't find the link, so I ended up here.
If you're wondering how I stumbled across annika's journal: Nose In The Air, I was Googling the phrase "you don't have to be a member".
It's Monday, July 24th 2006, here in Hong Kong where I live and work and play. Thanks for reading this.
Posted by: Rennie at July 23, 2006 10:59 PM (s2V3U)
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We were in Copenhagen on Saturday flying home from Finland. I think I had to pay $5 for a cup of coffee because although they would take Euros or USD at the airport, the change was only in Danish coins. Except for customs inspectors, I probably didn't meet any Danes.
Although we had trouble finding anything in English to read, we found the press in Europe even more biased than in the US. Here we might at least get a token Malkin or Sowell.
Posted by: Norma at July 25, 2006 09:02 AM (TvTgq)
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I hate to hear a grown man cry...
Posted by: shelly at July 25, 2006 09:10 PM (BJYNn)
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I learned yesterday that Strindberg is pronounced Strindberry. Lindbergh, being Swedish, should probably be pronounced similarly.
Posted by: annika at July 27, 2006 12:01 AM (4+bGY)
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Sorry, Annika, that's fifteen yards for piling on. It is bad enough the man can't spell the name of his home airport, but not being able to pronounce it correctly will put him over the line.
Expect him to crank up his new toy and drive it into Mission Bay. And I always thought it was just women who wanted to get something hot and throbbing between their legs...
Posted by: shelly at July 27, 2006 07:42 AM (BJYNn)
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I've still got about 10 Euros left from the last trip. What is with these coins? Do you REALLY need 1-2-5-10-20-50..... denominations that all look pretty much the same? Except for the wierd bicolor ones that look like Canadian money. Which is aptly nicknamed a looney.
Biggest surprises about Europe:
1. Do NOT dis German food. I quickly got tired of pork, but the bakeries were everywhere, and really good. The French should worry.
2. France can keep its wine, but the beer (from Alsace anyway) is tres bon.
3. Dutch sounds more German than German. Talk about gutteral. Talk about blondes....
4. If there is a bad bottle of beer to be had in Germany, it's imported. I tried to find something I didn't like, no luck. Except for the stuff imported from other countries. Which for some reason you could only find on the highway rest stops, and at the train stations. German stores don't sell it.
5. That goes ditto for cans. Germans don't believe in them.
6. There are some tough chicks in the military - I saw this girl who had to be under 5 feet tall in camo lugging a rucksack that was at least her size through the Strasbourg train station.
7. All good does not go unrewarded. The Strasbourg Cathedral has a memorial to the American soldiers who died liberating the city. Despite being about one mile from the German border, there still was no German translation...
8. You know you're getting old when your daughter, the premie who weighed less than 5 lbs when she was born, is driving you down the autobahn.
9. At 90 mph.
10. And getting passed by these Germans doing 100-120.
11. Unless it's by a really fast car...
Posted by: MarkD at July 28, 2006 07:07 PM (cO5PH)
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July 11, 2006
Important Status Update For A's J Fans
My boyfriend and I have finally decided upon our summer vacation destination. Some of you may know that I had talked about going to Japan, and then Italy for a while. Then my mom asked, why don't you finally go and see Denmark? So Chris and I thought about it, and it made perfect sense.
I haven't been back there since I was about one, and I have always been curious. But I always felt like it wouldn't be right to go without my mom, so I kept postponing the trip. Since my mom doesn't fly anymore, I just kind of gave up on the idea. But now I want to support Denmark, so why not spend my travel dollars there? And everybody speaks English, plus it's a lot cooler in summer than Italy, which we'll probably save for a winter or fall trip.
So, my triumphant return to the place of my birth is scheduled for next month. And with the best travelling companion I could ever have, too! It's very exciting.
This means of course, that I will be on vacation starting next Tuesday. A very special guest blogger will be taking over for me. It's Victor of Publius & Co., who has been on a blogging hiatus for a couple of months. We hope he will return to his own Mu.Nu blog soon, but in the meantime it will be great to have him working the levers over here.
Jeopardy will continue until next Monday. We'll see how far we can get before my vacation. Then we'll pick up again after I return on July 29th. Don't freak out about this, Jeopardy fans. Remember last year, we didn't get to final Jeopardy until the end of August! Annika's Jeopardy is like the Tour de France. It's a grueling ordeal, but a fun one, and with 50% fewer Frenchies. So it will be totally worth the wait!
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You never heard of laptops and broadband?
There are no Internet connections in Denmark?
Sitting on a park bench in Tivoli Gardens without a laptop will make you look like a fish out of water.
Don't plan on spending too much time in Denmark; the drinking/driving laws will freak you out.
Amsterdam is not too far away.
Posted by: shelly at July 11, 2006 01:02 AM (BJYNn)
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Sacre bleu! Have a great trip, and know that I'm completely jealous
Posted by: The Law Fairy at July 11, 2006 05:07 AM (954g7)
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Are you alright LF, or do I have to Heimlich your ass?
Posted by: Casca at July 11, 2006 06:38 AM (rEC2k)
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Annika,
I wish you a pleasant and safe journey. I have not been to Denmark since 1972. I have mentioned to you that I have many cousins in Copenhagen and my Mothers brothers were born their during the family's immigration from Poland. Their journey was interrupted by WW I and some of my grandparents' brother's or sister's married Danes and remained.
I found it to be a lovely country with lovely helpful, generous people who nearly all spoke English. (The beer is great as well. Have a pint of draft Lowenbrau Elephant.) You need only glance at a map and some passerby will stop and offer asisstance. I hope you and BF's tastes are more refined than mine were and you cross the street towards the cheese shops not away from them as I did in my callow youth. Go to Louisiana,
http://www.louisiana.dk/
a modern art museum an hour's train ride out of the city. A very beautiful setting on the water. They are, I see, having an exibition of a furniture designer that I like alot, Paul Kjaerholm.
And don't forget to get a picture of yourself in front of the Mermaid and at Hamlet's crib.
Bon voyage!
Posted by: stawman at July 11, 2006 09:03 AM (G2Zzw)
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Shelly, apparently you forgot what vacations were like *before* you were a lawyer.
annika, remember what Shelly has said. Want a little foreshadowing? My second post will be a lawyer joke.
(Foreshadowing: Your sign of fine literature.)
Posted by: Victor at July 11, 2006 10:03 AM (L3qPK)
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Thank you for the suggestions Shelly and Strawman. Tivoli is definitely on the list of things to see, Shelly, with or without a laptop. And I will definitely try this Lowenbrau Elephant you speak of, Strawman. If it's anything like Carlsberg Elephant, it should be pretty awesome. And I love cheese, so I'll definitely sample a lot of it. I hope customs lets me bring some back. One thing we Americans could learn from Europe is how to make great cheese. I also hope to squeeze in Louisiana, which Rick Steves recommends too.
Posted by: annika at July 11, 2006 11:35 AM (zAOEU)
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Hope you have a great time on your trip!! I'm totally jealous!
Posted by: Amy Bo Bamy at July 11, 2006 12:53 PM (Wz2Gp)
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If Annika's Jeopardy is like the Tour de France, then I'm waiting for the allegations of steroid abuse.
I've only visited Europe once, in 2000, staying mostly in Switzerland, but also popping in on Austria and France. Need to go back...
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at July 11, 2006 04:34 PM (bGyIu)
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