June 30, 2005
Ulf Hjertström Update: Two Down
Recently i posted about
Ulf Hjertström, the Swede who was held hostage by terrorists in Iraq and vowed to hunt them down. Here's an update:
Hjertström 'doesn’t want to go into detail' about the bounty hunters, but assures Expressen that they are 'the best money can buy.'
'They’re not twiddling their thumbs,' declares Hjertström, revealing that he has 'received confirmation that two of [the kidnappers] have already been taken care of.' When asked to elaborate on the fate of the purportedly captured men, the Swede says he 'hasn’t inquired' but has his 'suspicions.'
Awesome!
The original story is in Swedish. i can't read it but i know someone who might be able to.
Link thanks to Billy McCormac of the Stockholm Spectator Blog.
[cross-posted at A Western Heart]
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"Taken care of". This image of Rooster Cogburn popped into my mind. Real wild west show over there in Iraq. I'd just be happy to be eating lefsa again.
regards
Posted by: zona boy at June 30, 2005 10:21 AM (5afzm)
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yay! more violence! civilization will be improved if we all turn into vigilantes!
Posted by: eric at June 30, 2005 12:09 PM (hiCir)
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Eric:
Ulf is doing the world a favor by removing from this earth some very violent terrorists.
That seems to be a lot more effective than kissing their feet as you and other lefty's want to do.
A Melbourne Age editor sums up the feeling of every lefty by saying this:
"The issue really is largely, speaking as I understand it, he was treated well there. He says he was fed every day, and as such to turn around and use that kind of language I think is just insensitive." (via Tim Blair.)
Yep, that's us conservatives all right. We have insensitive feelings about violent terrorists.
Posted by: Jake at June 30, 2005 01:01 PM (r/5D/)
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it's truly amazing how in so few words you can so completely obfuscate, add and subtract meaning, and show the weakness of your argument. by posting something simplistic i hoped to get just that response--sarcastic, devoid of any factual argument, and full of incredibly dumbed-down stereotypes. (you seem educated, so do you honestly believe that "lefty's" - a term which means absolutely nothing, by the way - want to "kiss their feet"?) what about the vaunted rule of law that's always trumpeted by republicans? does it not apply in certain cases when ignoring it benefits you? inasmuch as i can try to understand ulf's actions - which i do, because i may do the same thing - it seems you're very confused at the difference between justice and vengeance. as i presume you would, i would personally stand on the neck of anyone sending suicide bombers to israel and i'd not hesitate to put a bullet through the 9/11 highjackers and anyone who had anything to do with it, even obliquely. but i wasn't talking about that, was i - i was making a statement about violence. it's very telling that you would jump on the attack to defend something that hasnt been attacked in the first place. your siege mentality is showing, my friend. in a way i wish i thought in such black and white terms, it must be very simple to just take what the leader says as gospel and use namecalling against anyone who disagrees with you.
i hope you respond, i can't wait to see you lump me in with these terrible "lefty's" again and answer questions i havent asked, defend against attacks i haven't brought...
Posted by: eric at June 30, 2005 01:28 PM (hiCir)
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eric,
What, exactly are you proposing? Ulf should just let bygones be bygones? Sue them? Is it ok if the military takes action against the terrorists?
How about non-violent retaliation? Maybe he should flush a Koran? Appeal to the UN for a resolution?
I support the idea of direct retaliation against those who have deliberately caused harm. Makes for a more polite society.
Posted by: MarkD at June 30, 2005 02:59 PM (oQofX)
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"Taken care of", yes reminds me of the good old days when the CIA still protected the "family jewels".
Posted by: Casca at June 30, 2005 03:43 PM (qBTBH)
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Eric:
Hey, I quoted an esteemed left-wing editor from Australia. That sounds pretty factual to me.
I am sorry for calling you a lefty. I know that there is no group more despised, more scorned and more laughed at than left-wingers. To call you a lefty is to call you reactionary, racist conforming, boring, dirty, hostile, unkempt, snotty, intolerant and angry.
But it could have been worse.
I could have called you a Democrat.
Posted by: Jake at June 30, 2005 03:53 PM (r/5D/)
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Hey I know........lets just all convert to be muslims so they dont hate us anymore!!! Thats what they all want isnt it?
Posted by: Jeff at July 02, 2005 07:36 AM (Zq5kW)
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> I support the idea of direct retaliation
> against those who have deliberately caused
> harm. Makes for a more polite society.
Strange that polite society isn't here yet, seeing as that the human race have done little else than retaliated since Cain & Abel...
I'm sure that whatever your feelings on revenge might be, you know that this act will not in any way "tip the scale to zero". The kidnappers' relatives, not being able to read these enlightened posts, will just see their family get killed. And as they probably can't get the guy who put out the contract, they will hate and try to kick the butt of anyone from the same general area.
Just as a lot of mosques were vandalized after 9/11. I'm sorry, but it just goes on and on. Much as it hurts your ego, someone WILL have to be big enough to say "bygones". Only way.
Or we could just kill off the bad people and the good people will remain. (This was irony.)
Posted by: Johan B at July 06, 2005 01:19 PM (WZphI)
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We have learned that justice cannot be subcontracted. Contrary to old cowboy movies, you can't let the law out of your own hands.
Vengence? You bet your sweet ass. There is nothing wrong with well directed vengence.
Posted by: Walter E. Wallis at July 09, 2005 11:16 AM (xX0fS)
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"Or we could just kill off the bad people and the good people will remain."
You may have meant it as irony, Johan, but it is true. These terrorists want to capture people like you and me, and cut our throats. It's as simple as that. I want to kill them before they do more damage - it's not a tough concept.
Posted by: Barb at July 10, 2005 01:49 PM (g9qHI)
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I would love to be a part of Operation Vengence, but I think a better name is Operation Justice, because that would be what those murderous cowards would be getting.
They kill anybody and their aim is everybody that they can't control. I would personally like to take off the head of Bin Laden and Al Zarqawi,
these two deserve nothing less, and I would like to do it the same way Al Zarqawi did it to Nick Berg, and all the others.
Call it what ever you want, as long as it gets done....
Posted by: Beth at July 10, 2005 04:39 PM (lZ8lX)
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I have no problem at all understanding those feelings. I felt them myself after seeing the Nick berg video. But if you don't just surrender to them, you start to think. If you cut the throats of the "original cutters", they will in turn have people who love them (which we may find strange). And you can bet YOUR sweet ass that they will probably not say "OK - we bear no grudge, they had it coming".
So by all means, they should be stopped, but not with the "eye for an eye" method.
Posted by: Johan B at July 22, 2005 03:15 PM (WZphI)
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June 28, 2005
Just A Question
The BTK Killer's nickname stood for "bind
torture kill. i wonder if he chose to call himself that because he liked to play loud rap music and turn the a/c up on his victims.
i'm not being flip here, just trying to make a semantic point.
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I don't think you're being flip at all. I think it's a valid point, and if I had Dick Durbin's ear, I'd ask him that very question.
Although, I'm sure the pseudo-intellects of the Left, such as Al-queda Franken, would tell you that it's just a
different flavor of torture.
Posted by: Robbie at June 28, 2005 07:52 AM (lbWbV)
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It seems to me there is something a little screwy on the right-wing's view of Gitmo and Abu Gharib--and I speak as a conservative Republican here. On the one hand, it's said that these were the acts of a few wayward, undisciplined soldiers and, while regrettable perhaps, they do not reflect badly on the army or the mission as a whole. On the other hand, these acts are said to be no big deal, a necessary response to a ruthless enemey. The problem is whether they're regrettable acts of folks acting outside their authority, or defensible on their merits.
The fact is the torture allegations go beyond the silly pictures of Lynnie England or the burned Koran story. A dozen or more individuals have died in captivity, some at the hands of their interrogators. A third or more of Gitmore detainees have been released after they were determined not to be AQ. If innocent individuals are being interrogated in a fashion that kills them--with beatings, drowning, etc.--this is the essence of torture and military excess, would you not agree?
That said, the media's obsessive focus on the sensational images of Abu Gharib to the neglect of the more serious allegations--that certain detainees have been killed in custody--shows how immature of an institution it is.
Posted by: Roach at June 28, 2005 08:18 AM (MRlvg)
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Roach, It's a war. Bad things happen. Some of the "not Al Quaeda" were later killed on the battlefield after we had let them go. Oops.
I'd say that these guys are being treated far better than they deserve. I've heard no practical alternatives to holding them somewhere for the duration of this war. Unless you'd prefer that we execute them as illegal enemy combatants? Which, BTW is completely in accordance with the Geneva Convention.
Posted by: MarkD at June 28, 2005 09:27 AM (oQofX)
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Roach:
We have no way of knowing how and why these criminals died at Gitmo. They could have died from natural causes. If any of these Bad Guys met a violent death is was due to guards protecting their lives.
These criminals are desperate and insanely violent. At every opportunity, they will try to murder the guards using their feet, hands and their teeth. They make Hannibal Lector look like a 80 year old grandmother.
Every one of those criminals sent to Gitmo was captured in a battle. All should still be in Gitmo today. Through the kindness of America's military, the combatants who were determined not to be hard-core Al Qaida were released. It is a decision the military has regretted often as most of them were recaptured in other battles.
It is hard to believe that you are a conservative. No thinking person would believe anything MSM says about Gitmo and Abu Gharib. MSM has consistently distorted, made-up or exaggerated the facts concerning those two military installations.
Posted by: Jake at June 28, 2005 10:20 AM (r/5D/)
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You say, " If any of these Bad Guys met a violent death is was due to guards protecting their lives." This is false. Army investigations have focused on more than two dozen cases where captives may have been killed in the course of interrogations, none of which involved claims of self defense. Such killings are in violation of US law, Army regulations, Army rules of engagement, and the like. Here's the Army CID report:
http://www.cid.army.mil/Documents/OIF-OEF%20Homicides.pdf
Mindless cheerleading should not be opposed to the mindless criticisms of the war.
You also say that all the Gitmo detainees were found on the field of battle. This is false in at least some cases, and anyone who has looked into this knows it. Many were turned in by Afghans seeking to cash in on the cash rewards given for pretty much anyone turned in. While some that have been released have been wrongfully released and returned to AQ, at least some are acknowledged by the military and everyone else to be completely innocent. So should torture be used preemptively on anyone, even those who are factually innocent, just to find out? Would't this hurt our PR efforts in the Muslim world--where we're trying to separate jihadists from the uncomitted--and just be wrong to boot? I have no problem with us arresting detainees and determining for ourselves their status, but that does not mean we can or should torture all of them on the mistaken assumption they're all enemy combatants, nor does it mean we should tolerate the violations of Army rules and regs by lower level guys that decide for themselves to torture anyone, i.e., those that violate direct orders. The Army itself has concluded many of these detainees are not enemy combatants. http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050608-112525-6483r.htm
The mindless jingoistic chorus from the so-called conservatives in this country that refuse to look at the facts (and distorts those that exist) is not conservatism. You have to fight lies with truth, not more lies or raw and false assertions.
Posted by: Roach at June 28, 2005 11:18 AM (MRlvg)
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How do you sleep at night? You know, being on the same side as the terrorists, and all?
Posted by: Robbie at June 28, 2005 12:52 PM (lbWbV)
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Unbelievable. Hey Robbie, go buy a clue, read a book, and learn a little something. It's Army officers in the JAG corps and the FBI who've raised the biggest stink about this. Are they on the same side as terrorists? Do I have to make excuses for illegal actions not to be on the same side as the terrorists. I agree this doesn't belong on page 1, etc., but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter at all.
Incidentally, is the Army and Navy CID on the same side as the terrorists.
One more thing, go fuck yourself Robbie.
Posted by: Roach at June 28, 2005 01:44 PM (MRlvg)
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Hey Robbie, how does it feel not to have something intelligent to say? To live in a world where on any issue, no matter all the various degrees of opinion and sub-issues, there are two positions -- pro-terrorist and anti-terrorist?
Maybe you'll think about what a stupid, worthless little shit you apparently are before accusing someone who had two brothers serve in Iraq, and who had an NYFD uncle die on 9/11, of being a terrorist sympathizer.
You worthless, sniveling little fuck.
Posted by: Answerman at June 28, 2005 02:20 PM (wQzfm)
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Insults always clarify everything.
Posted by: Mark at June 28, 2005 04:24 PM (Vg0tt)
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Hey answerman, I noticed that while listing all the brave people in your family, you left yourself off that list.
Having served in Iraq in the US Army, I can tell you that my first hand experiences just don't vibe with all the hearsay that you've read on the Internet.
Posted by: Robbie at June 28, 2005 04:25 PM (htx4h)
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Roach:
I stand by what I said. I read the CID report, and it no way supports your accusations that you made.
We have not tortured prisons at Gitmo. We have applied psychological pressure on these terrorists which is allowed by the Geneva convention. Muslims hear what some Americans call torture and they laugh at the Americans sucked into believing terrorist propaganda.
Your mindless jingoistic chorus is not conservatism. You are ignoring the truth and believe only lies or raw and false assertions.
Posted by: Jake at June 28, 2005 04:47 PM (r/5D/)
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Actually he was talking about me and my family, which someone with basic command of English grammar would have noticed. So, do you still think I support terrorists simply because I conclude that some of what was undeniably torture took place under US auspices?
Why do you feel so free to insult people and their patriotism, Robbie, as soon as they disagree with you on some particular? Why do you think that people who've not served in our military are not patriotic or are liberals? And what of the CID, JAG, and FBI folks mentioned above? What of the fact that certain lies and misinformation are the only way to support your position?
You served. Good for you. That doesn't mean you get to win every debate on any subject relating to the military or foreign policy for the rest of your life. We're a republic of equal citizens; not a warrior aristocracy.
Posted by: Roach at June 28, 2005 04:48 PM (MRlvg)
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Well Jake, I'm just willing to believe things that are troubling, and not dismiss them as "raw assertions." It's true the tortures in quesiton took place in Iraq and Afghanistan--not Gitmo--but that doesn't change the fact that killing someone in an interrogation through suffocation or blunt trauma is torture under any reasonable definition of that term.
Look up jingoistic when you get a chance; you're obviously misusing the word.
Posted by: Roach at June 28, 2005 04:51 PM (MRlvg)
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Robbie, unlike Roach, I thank you for your sacrifices in serving your country.
Posted by: Mark at June 28, 2005 05:20 PM (Vg0tt)
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Mark maybe you can lick his boots to show real appreciation.
Posted by: Roach at June 28, 2005 05:24 PM (MRlvg)
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U da man, Robbie.
The man in the arena always has to listen to this kind of shit.
Everyone who takes arms against this country has given up the right to life, unless of course it was for the cause of hanging five members of the Supreme Court.
Posted by: Casca at June 28, 2005 05:35 PM (qBTBH)
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Robbie, that's wonderful that you served. Of course, it doesn't excuse you for being a piece of shit who -- in response to reasoned argument from Roach with which you may or may not agree (anyone who cares, read Roach's original comment) -- feels justified in cavalierly accusing people whom you don't know of the most morally vile things imaginable, like sympathy with the terrorists.
You're a dimwitted cheerleader who can't have an intelligent debate with someone who supports the war but has certain policy disagreements with Bush. Although you service does you proud, your comments in here do you, the Republican Party, and your country shame. You're an embarrassment to this country, and your unthinking, populist approach is truly cause for sadness about our future.
Rot in hell, cocksucker.
Posted by: Answerman at June 28, 2005 06:50 PM (Jl3/M)
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Answerman seems to be a little contradictory and apparently believes hell, with the most hideous suffering and torture imaginable (for the rest of eternity even), is an appropriate place for our bravest guys like Robbie.
DO NOT QUESTION HIS PATRIOTISM!!
Posted by: d-rod at June 28, 2005 08:52 PM (EHJaf)
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Answerman did not question Robbie's patriotism; he questioned his good sense, and he questioned his judgment and intellect. This should be obvious, if you read the exchange above. Robbie rather questioned my patriotism, rather than addressing the merits of what I wrote above. Answerman said something that I would not have said myself, namely, that my family background (and personal background if truth be told) makes it pretty ridiculous to question my patriotism.
If it's wrong and ilegal to kill people during interrogations--some of whom may not be terrorists, hence the point of interogation--and the CID and FBI have tried to prevent these unauthorized and in some cases illegal actions, then I think I'm in good company for distinguishing these incidents from the A/C and other mild coercions of Gitmo. My only point was pretty limited: that focusing on the "rap music" and mild pressure of Gitmo does not tell the whole story, that some of what everyone would classify as torture has been committed by a small number of US troops.
As for Robbie, it's pretty ridiculous for people to expect me to get on my knees and thank him for service when, patriotic or otherwise, he has acted like an asshole and pulled out some pretty strong accusations at the first sign of disagreement. Guess what, there are assholes in that have served in the US military too. It doesn't make you a saint to be a veteran and it doesn't mean you get to win every debate on military and related matters until the day you die. If you want your servie respected, you should not use it as a cudgel.
Posted by: Roach at June 29, 2005 07:37 AM (MRlvg)
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Um... I was suggesting that we not question
Answerman's patriotism, Roach, since he seems a little unbalanced (in a Nancy Pelosi sort of way). Sorry if that was unclear.
Posted by: d-rod at June 29, 2005 07:47 AM (ASqxY)
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As Duff Cooper wrote, the jingo nationalist "is always the first to denounce his fellow countrymen as traitors." Of course, most jingo nationalists likely do their denouncing with a little more reasoning and argument that our own dear Robbie. But he gets points for the effort.
And d-rod, I don't recall anyone above questioning my patriotism, but I do appreciate your preemptive warning to low-IQ cheerleaders like Robbie and his ilk. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: Answerman at June 29, 2005 09:06 AM (Jl3/M)
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I respect Robbie and Roach. Cease the conservative infighting. Initiate the truce. Let's get back on the same page and resume bashing the anti-American "Robert McClellands" of the world instead.
Posted by: reagan80 at June 29, 2005 10:00 AM (hlMFQ)
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Reagan 80 I appreciate your magnanimity and desire for conservative unity, but I wouldn't want to be associated with anyone that felt so free to hurl around accusations of "supporting terrorists" and treason.
These are not our people; they're not liberals, but they're not conservatives either. They're some kind of militaristic, populist, jingoistic, half-breed. They're the folks that "hate" journalists, lawyers, college professors, successful businessmen, and pretty much anyone with an education. There is a weird mismash of class envy, fear, cocksure certainty, and ignorance propelling the jingoist to the forefront. They crowd out true conservative ideas with their quick accusations and dimwitted pseudo-analysis. And, if they're at all influenced by ideas, it's the world-wide crusading gobbeldygook of the neoconservative theorists at Weekly Standard, the stuff that used to be associated with FDR and liberals. The older America First traditions of Lindbergh, Albert Jay Nock, Russell Kirk, and Robert Taft are totally off their radar. They'd be as at home with Woodrow Wilson and Huey Long, as any of the real conservative statesmen of the 20th Century. They may vote the right way, but that's about it. They're not men of ideas and good sense, but of crude impulses. Their domination of the Republican party is why we've seen no real limitations on government under Bush, whom the new militarist-populists worship. Throw a few bones about gay marriage and look serious about the war and they're happy.
And this trend is on the rise. This human type is more prevalent. Quick to denounce, devoid of independent thinking, and quick to classify the least disagreement on a any particular as a heresy worthy of putting one in the enemy camp. These are not my friens. I wouldn't want to make peace with them. Mencken was down on these people for a reason.
Posted by: Roach at June 29, 2005 12:44 PM (MRlvg)
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How fitting that Reagan80 would invoke Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican."
: )
Posted by: annika at June 29, 2005 06:30 PM (jUmhP)
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I wonder how the Gipper would have felt about tossing around the accusation "terrorist sympathizer"?
Posted by: Answerman at June 29, 2005 07:02 PM (Jl3/M)
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Two words, "Evil Empire".
Posted by: Casca at June 30, 2005 08:48 PM (qBTBH)
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Ah, so we see that the brainless populists on the Right equate reasoned policy criticisms by patriotic Americans with totalitarian governments bent on destroying us.
Casca may not be bright, but at least his comments are enlightening.
Posted by: Answerman at July 01, 2005 09:00 AM (wQzfm)
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Am I the only one to think that in some photos, the BTK killer looks vaguely reminiscent of Salman Rushdie?
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June 26, 2005
There's An Idea
Via
Rodger, this cool story from
The Australian:
Ex-hostage hires bounty hunters
A hostage held alongside Australian Douglas Wood in Iraq has hired bounty hunters to track down his former captors, promising to eliminate them one by one.
Swede Ulf Hjertstrom, who was held for several weeks with Mr Wood in Baghdad, was released by his kidnappers on May 30.
Mr Hjertstrom has since claimed he shared information with US and Iraqi troops about Mr Wood which led to the release of the 63-year-old Australian engineers two weeks ago, after 47 days in captivity.
Now, he wants to find those responsible.
'I have now put some people to work to find these bastards,' he told the Ten Network today.
'I invested about $50,000 so far and we will get them one by one.'
i guess he didn't buy into that whole Stockholm Syndrome nonsense. Gotta love it.
More: i found this apalling story about the Australian hostage Douglas Wood at Andi's World. It shouldn't shock me, yet somehow it does.
It seems that lunacy isn't exclusive to American journalists. After Douglas Woods, the Australian contractor kidnapped in Iraq, was freed from captivity, he actually expressed his true feelings for his captors by calling them a**holes. These remarks have drawn the ire of one Andrew Jaspan, editor of a left-wing newspaper in Australia.
Jaspan tells us that Woods went way too far with his remarks:
Said Jaspan: "I was, I have to say, shocked by Douglas Wood's use of the a---hole word, if I can put it like that, which I just thought was coarse and very ill-thought through and I think demeans the man and is one of the reasons why people are slightly sceptical of his motives and everything else.
Woods greatest sin was to say "God Bless America" and praise American and Iraqi forces. Apparently, Jaspan thinks Woods should have been more grateful to his captors and a little less grateful to the forces who freed him. After all, his captors didn't torment him too badly.
Well, unless you count kidnapping him, kicking him in the head, keeeping him blindfolded and bound for 47 days, shaving him bald, killing two of his colleagues, making him beg for his life, and -- according to Hjertstrom -- shooting several other prisoners in front of him.
Wow. What is wrong with the far left? And how can anyone on God's earth take them seriously? It makes me want to bang my head against a wall sometimes.
Australian lefties, while Woods was still in chains, used him as a prop in their crusade against the forces of "U.S. Imperialism." Now that he's free, and free to speak the truth, the lefties have no use for him. And in fact, now they've come to despise Mr. Woods.
But we know what Wood's real offence is, don't we?
Yes, he did not do as did SBS journalist and Left hero John Martinkus after his own brief captivity and declare his kidnappers were "not savages", and say Iraq was 'on the road to s---'.
INSTEAD, he roared 'God bless America' and praised the US-trained Iraqi soldiers -- Iraq's real freedom fighters -- who saved him, saying he was 'proof positive that the current policies of the American and Australian governments is the right one'.
It seems that to a Leftist, this makes Wood the boorish inferior of the killers who beat him and held him captive. It is why journalist Tracee Hutchinson, in an Age column, calls him a 'blustering buffoon', moaning: 'It was enough that his words God bless America had been played over and over on his release.'
Let me ask younger readers still deciding on their brand of politics. Wouldn't you blush to join this Left?
Exactly.
[Cross-posted at A Western Heart.]
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$50K? Better be getting heads in boxes at that price.
Posted by: Casca at June 26, 2005 12:19 PM (qBTBH)
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i just got back from ocean city.
thanks for the interest.
now i have to think up something to post. hmmmm...
p.s. Rodger Schultz was my first favorite blog - he's a riot.
-nikita
Posted by: nikita demosthenes at June 26, 2005 12:21 PM (u4CZI)
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This Andrew Jaspan is a intellectual cripple.
HOW EASY IT IS to tell others how to react to their most horrifying experience. Truth is, Jaspan is not so much concerned with Wood's naughty words as he is with sympathizing with murders and thugs.
This is a very unfortunate aspect of liberalism. It generally sympathizes with the offender, not the victim.
I, too, shall now bang my head against the wall.
Posted by: Mark at June 26, 2005 05:08 PM (Vg0tt)
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Can you imagine how dangerous it would be for Western bounty hunters(if they are Western) to start searching these assholes out? Still, bounty hunters on a revenge mission is a Hollywood movie come to life. Were they younger, Stallone, Steven Segall, Van Damme, and Chuck Norris, at a minimum, would all be trying to find financing for this movie.
Who could most effectively take out the assholes:
Stallone
Segall
Van Damme
Norris
Schwartzenegger
Joe Don
Dog the Bounty Hunter
Dog the Bounty Hunter's wife
Beatrix
or
Lara Croft?
Posted by: gcotharn at June 26, 2005 08:37 PM (U/NfN)
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Wild cards:
O-Ren Ishii
Charles Bronson
Jason Bourne
Jack Bauer
Bonus Dialogue for chosen assassin to speak in Farsi:
"You and I have unfinished business!"
Posted by: gcotharn at June 26, 2005 08:45 PM (U/NfN)
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BTW, might there be ANY relationship between the mentality which produces a total of zero non-puppet WOT movies, and this headline from today:
"U.S. Box Office Hits Longest Modern Slump"
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050626/D8AVJ0902.html
Naaaaahhh. Total coincidence, I'm sure.
Posted by: gcotharn at June 26, 2005 08:59 PM (U/NfN)
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BTW II:
That puppet WOT movie? Sucker made money. Lots of it. Also total coincidence, I'm sure.
Try this thought experiment:
What if the Southparkers had made a puppet anti-war movie which ripped Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and various Gulag-y enlisted war criminals. Would that movie have made as much money? Hint: Does anyone remember the huge success of the Southparkers' "That's My Bush" on Comedy Central?
Posted by: gcotharn at June 26, 2005 09:04 PM (U/NfN)
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Chef, here are the grid coordinates, your callsign is allmighty.
Posted by: Casca at June 26, 2005 10:33 PM (qBTBH)
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Speaking of puppets, wonder what Triumph the Insult Comic Dog would think of all this.
"Hirrring bounty hunterrrs to kill kidnapperrrs. Brrrilliant idea. For me to pooooop on."
Posted by: mark at June 26, 2005 11:12 PM (NY9f3)
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Annika wrote{Wow. What is wrong with the far left?}
uuhhmm, they are Stupid?, evil,? cowardly?, all of the above?
Posted by: Kyle at June 27, 2005 02:16 PM (7Re84)
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Hjerström's boys have apparently caught up with two of his abductors...
http://www.spectator.se/stambord/?p=927
Posted by: Billy McCormac at June 30, 2005 05:54 AM (kcL6z)
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Dog the bounty hunter could and would get in there and take these scrotes down, HARD!
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June 24, 2005
Karl Rove Is A Genius
A diabolical genius. i'm glad he's on our side.
Ralph Bristol of SCHeadlines.com theorizes that the controversy surrounding Rove's recent anti-liberal comments was the result of a well played trick. If so, i love it. If not, the furor over what Rove said is still laughable.
Whether it was an intentional trap or not, and we all know that Rove is evil and maniacal, the Democrats fell into it, one after another.
Even before the dust had settled on Sen. Dick DurbinÂ’s potentially treasonous assertion that our military guards at the Guantanamo Bay terrorist prison camp were acting like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot, followed by his tearful apology to himself for attracting the wrath of friend and foe alike, Rove offered Democrats the opportunity to stand out as uniquely hypocritical.
In the world of politics, where hypocrisy is an art form, to be uniquely hypocritical is indeed a remarkable accomplishment.
i'm hesitant to even blog about what Karl Rove said, since its truth should be self-evident to everyone. That's what makes it so objectionable to liberals, i guess.
Professor Hewitt has the rundown on why Rove need not apologize for speaking the truth. Let's hope he doesn't.
Back to the Ralph Bristol piece. Here are the differences between the Rove and Durbin comments:
Liberals might argue that while Schumer, Clinton and others are in fact hypocritical for attacking Rove and defending Durbin, conservatives are similarly hypocritical for attacking Durbin, but not Rove. That argument would have merit only if the two menÂ’s statements were similarly outrageous.
Here are the differences.
First, What Durbin stated was demonstrably fallacious. Anyone with even a modicum of historical knowledge and perspective would not seriously equate the alleged mistreatment of Gitmo prisoners, cited by Durbin, (uncomfortable heat and cold; loud rap music) with the inhumane murder of millions of innocent civilians at the hands of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.
What Rove said is largely factual. Liberals, specifically the group Moveon.org, did in fact counsel “moderation and restraint” after 9/11. While many Democrats voted for the war on terror, it is true that some liberals reacted exactly as Rove described. He could have been more accurate if he had said “some liberals,” but that’s a miniscule rhetorical error compared to Durbin’s slander of the guards at Gitmo.
Second, Rove served up his remarks at a setting that is accepted as a 'red meat banquet,' a gathering of the New York Conservative Party. DurbinÂ’s comments came on the floor of what is supposed to be 'the worldÂ’s most deliberative body.'
Finally, and most important, DurbinÂ’s allegations can and will be repeatedly broadcast by AmericaÂ’s enemy as a tool to reinforce the fury in the Jihad soldiers and inspire others to join the battle. His comments will be a useful and enduring propaganda tool in the hands of the enemy.
That difference cannot be overstated, in my opinion. Even if only one soldier, or one marine, or one Iraqi policeman dies as a result of Durbin's disgusting statments from the Senate floor, isn't that reason enough for him to leave politics in disgrace? And who can say that Durbin's stupidity didn't lengthen our military commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan at the very least?
By contrast, the worst you can say about Rove's comments are that they were
an inaccurate rendering of some DemocratsÂ’ support for the war, which could harm their electoral chances in the future.
But i wouldn't even go that far. i think what Rove said about liberals [as Dan Patrick pointed out this morning on Laura Ingraham's show, Rove never mentioned "Democrats"] was entirely and demonstrably accurate.
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Bill Quick said it best, "As long as Durbin is in the Senate, the Republicans need not apologize to the Democrats for anything."
Here is another way Rove is a genius. MSM would never report a speech by Rove and he knows it. By saying something controversial (but true), he got a big reaction from the left and the MSM.
Now his speech is now being spread all across the nation and the vast majority of Americans agrees with him.
Posted by: Jake at June 24, 2005 10:59 AM (r/5D/)
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Not answering liberal democrats and the MSM hurt Nixon, Reagan 2nd term, and Bush 41.
Bush/Rove/Mehlman know that you must fire back. There is no "take the high road" option in politics.
The fact that they did it in a way that damages the Dems in their weak spot is beautiful...but guess what, fuckfaces? You let Dean/Reid/Durbin do a lot of talking recently, and here comes a big overhand right in return.
Posted by: Jason O. at June 24, 2005 12:19 PM (2CAKL)
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Karl Rove is "Boy Genius".
Bush may be termed out, but Rove isn't.
Four more years!!!
Posted by: shelly at June 25, 2005 12:34 AM (pO1tP)
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Yes, I find it amusing that the people who are most exercised by Rove's remarks seem to discern no differentiation between "liberals" and "Democrats". That fact alone makes an audacious point--one that Rove himself, being the evil genius he is, didn't have to.
Posted by: Bernard at June 25, 2005 04:04 AM (i/HzM)
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Evidently, Preston is on vacation or AWOL.
Posted by: d-rod at June 25, 2005 09:25 AM (QIT5R)
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"Al Qaeda might have been disgraced and destroyed."
By offering therapy and understanding for our attackers?
I'd have given long odds on that one.
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June 21, 2005
Estrich Takes Head Out Of Sand, For A Moment
My respect for Susan Estrich just went up about a tenth of a point. Of course, when she's starting out in negative figures that doesn't mean a whole lot, but still. Read her
Liberal's Defense of Fox News.
Link hat tip to Kate of Small Dead Animals.
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I've always wanted to grudge-fuck Susan. She is my favorite liberal because for the most part, she is not a hypocrite. Besides, she ran Dukakis' campaign, and what conservative couldn't love her for that?
Posted by: Casca at June 21, 2005 03:53 PM (qBTBH)
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I'm surprised - that column made sense from beginning to end. Two-tenths of a point, I'd say.
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June 20, 2005
It's Not All Anti-Americanism In The Arab Press
You should read the
translation of an article by Saudi writer Nadine Al-Baydar, which i found at the
Watching America blog. Here's some excerpts:
I gazed at the walls of [my brother's] room and asked him: 'You want to boycott America like your teacher told you to?' He bobbed his head up and down in agreement. So I said: 'Then take down all these posters of famous wrestlers and rock stars, stop wearing your American-style clothes, quit watching their movies, toss out your personal computer, change your Western-inspired haircut, and replace your way of living that is so taken by the American culture with something elseÂ…[']
He immediately interrupted me: 'Come on, sis, I was only joking!'
It is not just my brother who is only joking, but it is all Arab peoples who have a bland sense of humor when they declare their hatred for America and their decision to be free of Western culture. That is because there isnÂ’t an Arab or Muslim person who can survive without the products of American culture. And how could they, when Arab nations are to this day nations of consumers and not producers, nations who do nothing to encourage their citizens to be creative, and nations who never created the right environment for innovation. These are nations that are more inclined to procrastination and dependence; nations who are fighting a war against terror while their curricula recommend just the opposite.
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If we did some research to find out the number of places for entertainment in the Arab world, we would find that it is many orders of magnitude larger than the number of factories or places of learning. The Arab citizen is a hardcore entertainment junky whose brain leans toward intellectual and scientific stagnation. If you were to look for the majority of Arabs in any tourist country, you would only find them sitting in cafes, watching each other and boasting to one another. Some might be found quenching their thirst at the local pub, before returning to the homeland to put on an impersonation of a pious hermit, and start preaching from their holier-than-thou pulpits.
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Did the Arabs lift a finger to help the people of Kosovo when they were suffering from Serbian persecution? They gathered a few donations, but it was America who saved Kosovo. The Arabs did nothing to aid the women of Afghanistan when they were forbidden an education, and when the Afghani people were robbed of the chance for a normal life. America had to come in and rid the region of the backward Taliban regime.
The fear that the Arabs had for the prestige of their governments was more important to them than the injustices that the Iraqis were living under. Not one Arab government condemned the Halabja massacre and the Iraqi loss of life. It was America, and only America, who toppled SaddamÂ’s regime, while the Arabs stood by denouncing the American intervention in Iraq.
. . .
Saying that America is targeting the Arabs is a weak and untrue statement: We saw how the U.S. Secretary of State stressed that democracy in Russia had many problems, when she was visiting there a few months ago. It is also well known that the United States had supported the Georgian opposition against the dictatorship there. During the annual session of the Organization of American States this year, Condoleezza Rice emphasized the fragility of democracy in Venezuela and other countries in Latin America.
Many Arabs and Muslims view America as evil. They curse America and hurl insults at it. Some even bomb it and terrorize it. But America doesnÂ’t have the time to curse back; it is too busy finishing the job it came to do in the Middle East.
Interesting.
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A Rational Party No More
i've always believed that much of the far left is anti-semitic as well as anti-Christian. It's just that the anti-semitism had to be kept under wraps because so many Democratic voters are Jewish. In Europe their anti-semitism is open and blatant. Some Democrats in the U.S. would have it that way here too.
At a recent "Bush impeachment festival" held by House Democrats, someone let the cat out of the bag.
The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration 'neocons' so 'the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world.' He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
'Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation,' McGovern said. 'The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic.'
Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq's threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his 'candid answer.'
At Democratic headquarters, where an overflow crowd watched the hearing on television, activists handed out documents repeating two accusations -- that an Israeli company had warning of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that there was an 'insider trading scam' on 9/11 -- that previously has been used to suggest Israel was behind the attacks.
Just when i think i can't be shocked anymore by how disgusting the Democratic party has become, along comes another low.
What is wrong with these people?Democrats, to judge by recent events, appear to be losing their collective minds in some form of shriek therapy. Being out of power may do that to a party used to having its way for many decades in Congress. But there is one other possible explanation for the apparent insanity. With so much money concentrated in the hands of some hard left advocates (think George Soros, Hollywood, trial lawyers, internet millionaires and some union bosses), the Democrats may feel the need to feed the beast - to protect and cater to their hardcore base, so as to keep the money flowing into the political coffers for future campaigns. So the strategy is for Democrats to be completely over the top in their attacks - trashing Bush, America, our military, Republicans, and Israel, all of whom are targets of the activists, to keep the moveon.org and Dailykos crowds happy.
My personal opinion about traditional Jewish support for the Democratic party is that it is based on a vestigial fear that Republicans are "the party of white Christians," ergo the party of bigots. Sound familiar?*
But if the Democrats keep letting their anti-semitic elements have the floor, we should probably expect to hear more thinly veiled anti-Christian fear-mongering by Dean and his ilk, to compensate for the damage.
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* In other words, when Howard Dean uses the statistically inaccurate label "the party of white Christians," he's really using coded language designed to keep secular Jews and people who fear religion in the Democratic camp. Divide and conquer, the age-old Democrat strategy.
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"traditional Jewish support for the Democratic party is that it is based on a vestigial (although historically justified) fear that Republicans are the party of White Christians, ergo the party of bigots."
Bullshit, the historical connection of liberal jews to the Demoncrats has its roots in the socialist politics many jews carried with them from the old world, and shared with the D's in the new.
Ten whacks for you, and sit in the back of the class.
Posted by: Casca at June 20, 2005 10:13 PM (qBTBH)
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I don't think the Democratic Party's far left element has any idea about the power of the new media. They have been saying these things for years, it is just that no one reported it.
The best disinfectant is sunshine. Just keep talking morons.
Posted by: Yolo Cowboy at June 20, 2005 10:13 PM (tOZv2)
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on further reflection, i have deleted the parenthetical.
Posted by: annika at June 20, 2005 10:17 PM (erSH9)
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All is forgiven. I too drink and write.
Posted by: Casca at June 20, 2005 10:26 PM (qBTBH)
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Casca is right. The Jews in Europe adopted socialism because it promised equality of income. The Jews thought that to achieve equality of income you had to forget differences in religion. Wrong.
The socialist regimes of Germany and Russia both engaged in mass murder of the Jewish people. However, the Jews in America still retained their socialism and left-wing politics in face of those exterminations. Go figure.
Bush hatred has moved many Jews (especially in the academic world) to be anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian. It is all part of the madness that is the Democrat Party today.
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If the Democrats are so anti-Semitic, why are so many leading Democratic senators Jewish? Do the anti-Semites include Feinstein, Boxer, Feingold, Wyden, and Schumer?
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"However, the Jews in America still retained their socialism and left-wing politics in face of those exterminations. Go figure."
Glad to see you put that in the past tense, though. It's changing, finally. Go to Palm Beach County, the most Jewish county in Florida and the second-most Democratic (after Broward) and you'll see the GOP in explosive growth mode. The retirees will always vote mindlessly for the Dems, but other Jewish voters, especially younger ones, don't have that kind of tribal loyalty. I mean, seriously, the irony of Dean calling the Republicans the "white Christian party" wasn't just in getting that from the former governor of lily-white Vermont: Ken Mehlman said something like "all the people who attended my bar mitzvah will be very surprised to hear that."
Now, as a Jewish Republican from Massachusetts, I suspect we could still hold a convention in a broom closet, but everything's relative.
Posted by: Dave J at June 22, 2005 01:03 PM (ZKuUj)
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You don't have to be anti-Semitic to disagree with the way that Israel is treating the Palestinians. There is a lot more going on over there than Fox news decides to tell us
Posted by: joe at June 22, 2005 04:43 PM (wSLCU)
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Oh my God, you're an idiot. I can't take it. I'm going to sue Slate for linking to you.
Posted by: Jon at June 22, 2005 11:29 PM (Dbae2)
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It always amazes me that people think it's OK to just randomly toss out insults like that. No argument, no "you're wrong because X, Y and Z," just "you're an idiot," as if it's self-evident and beneath them to justify it. Thanks, Jon, for demonstrating your OBVIOUS intellectual and moral superiority.
Posted by: Dave J at June 23, 2005 08:30 AM (ZKuUj)
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Divide and conquer is a Republican strategy that has worked well these past 20 years. How did Bush win the last election otherwise? The whole gay issue was a divisive issue designed to divide and conquer.
Posted by: Tony Martin at June 24, 2005 01:45 AM (2sHE4)
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Tony: so Bush foisted "the gay issue" on the country, then? Funny, I thought it was the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts that did that.
Posted by: Dave J at June 24, 2005 08:28 PM (CYpG7)
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Dave, don't forget the "My way or the highway" Mayor of San Francisco. His arrogance was LARGE.
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Pre-Emptive Pledge
If John McCain is nominated in 2008, i will not vote for him.
Who's with me?
HCOTW: Desert Cat!
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It all depends on the alternative. But I will say that I can not vote for the man. He will not make it out of the primaries unless we have major crossover voters.
Posted by: Michael C at June 20, 2005 10:55 AM (yAKj9)
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It depends on the alternative. If it is McCain vs. HRC where would you go???
Posted by: Prarieblogger at June 20, 2005 11:15 AM (95uDn)
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i would write in someone.
Posted by: annie at June 20, 2005 11:41 AM (zAOEU)
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why because he not NAzi?!
Posted by: Um Yeah at June 20, 2005 01:13 PM (MhJuU)
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My first response was to say "hell yes I'm with you. Fuck that guy and his 'independent'thinking." But, the more I think of it, I'd rather have McCain than a Dem. McCain has some high profile fuck ups but he is still a pretty reliable conservative vote. He also is one of the more articulate spokesmen we have for providing justification for Iraq and the war on terroism.
What places him beyond redemption, Annie? (I realize there a long list of items that could drive you fucking crazy.) I'm curious about what particulary pisses you off. Filibuster? McCain-Feingold? etc etc etc
Anyway, he'll never win a Rep primary. So, this is just an academic exercise.
Posted by: Blu at June 20, 2005 01:15 PM (j8oa6)
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I'm down. If that happens we'll talk. I'm sure I can turn you onto some delightful little third party w/o a chance in hell of winning but whose candidate makes you think , "yeah; true dat". But in any case when it comes to not voting for a RINO I got yo' back.
Posted by: Publicola at June 20, 2005 01:20 PM (bXrfV)
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i knew i could count on you, Publicola.
Blu, it's McCain Feingold (one of the shittiest pieces of law to come down the pike in a long time.) and his being a member of the "seven." On every issue that i've heard him speak about, McCain bends over backwards to be accomodating and collegial to the Senate Democrats. But does anyone really think that if he were president, the liberals would not try to demonize him the way they do every other Republican in existence?
Posted by: annie at June 20, 2005 01:26 PM (zAOEU)
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yeah, He is a very very ambitious man, who loves to be in the limelight and dosent mind sticking it to his party. Also dosent care too much for the first amendment. Now some would call that being a politician, I call it, a no vote.
Posted by: Kyle at June 20, 2005 02:29 PM (7Re84)
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McCain is a goldplated prick with no allegiance to anything or anyone but his own ambition. I plan to crossover to AZ to register to vote sometime this year.
Posted by: Casca at June 20, 2005 03:41 PM (qBTBH)
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Most definitely. He's a Republican in the populist nutball tradition of Huey Long (D); that is, he has little in common with the Republican party's tradition of limited government, social conservatism, etc. He's affirmatively dangerous. Moreoever, he uses his war experience as a cudgel to silence his critics, which makes him an asshole under most common definitions. Plus, he rudely fanned flames of racial and religious unrest in criticizing Bush for visiting Bob Jones U in 2000, which was a below-the-belt criticism that basically implied Bush was a racist--which he most definitely is not, whatever his other faults may be.
McCain would be like Bush's big government worldwide crusading side without the social conservative and limited government instincts of the traditional right. It would be about one thing: McCain's power and legacy.
Posted by: Roach at June 20, 2005 04:10 PM (MRlvg)
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I will never support a Senator for President. They cannot win.
Harding and Kennedy are the only two senators who have won the White House in the history of America.
A Senator has a better chance of being struck by lightning than he has of being elected President.
I am supporting a Governor to be named.
Posted by: Jake at June 20, 2005 04:53 PM (r/5D/)
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I would probably write in myself.
(Struggling at my new mu.nu site. *Sigh*)
Posted by: Mark at June 20, 2005 05:18 PM (Vg0tt)
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Well I've voted for him and would be more than happy to see him run. I think the same qualities that make him seem like a bad senator, of late, would make him an effective president. None of us are going to get the dream candidate, so a McCain-Watts ticket is great comprimise.
Posted by: McCain-Watts in 08! at June 20, 2005 05:33 PM (x8hF4)
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"Anyway, he'll never win a Rep primary. So, this is just an academic exercise."
If only it were academic. My fear is that he's just the sort of egomaniac who, once it's clear to him as it is to the rest of us that he's not getting the GOP nod, might want to replay Perot '92 and thereby hand thw White House to the Dems (i.e., presumably HRC).
Posted by: Dave J at June 20, 2005 07:09 PM (ZKuUj)
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Not to worry, in that case, someone will cut the punk.
Posted by: Casca at June 20, 2005 07:40 PM (qBTBH)
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John McCain is a more reliable statist than he is a conservative.
I, on the other hand, am only a Republican because I am a conservative/libertarian. Thus there is no conceivable reason why I would throw my vote away on a man who does not represent my political views. If he is nominated, I will vote for whomever the Constitutional or Libertarian parties put up.
Would I sooner see the Hildebeest than the McCainiac elected? No, but unfortunately discerning the lesser of evils is pretty tough in this case. At least the Hildebeest would be stymied by a Republican House and Senate, whereas the McCainiac would mount the bully pulpit, the press would have a collective orgasm, and the Congress would probably roll over to do whatever he wanted.
Posted by: Desert Cat at June 20, 2005 08:23 PM (xdX36)
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I'm with you, Annie. There's so much I admire about the guy, but much that I despise abbout him as a politician, particularly his certainty that he's smarter than the Founding Fathers. I couldn't vote for him.
By the way, he'll be 72 in '08. Uncle Ronnie was only 69 in '80, so McCain may be a bit long in the tooth for the presidency, by recent standards. And he's had melanoma twice.
Posted by: Matt at June 20, 2005 08:29 PM (xIqZL)
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Desert Cat has articulated the best reason i've seen for throwing away my vote, in the event of a Hillery McCain general election. Bravo.
i'm dusting off the Huge Comment of the Week for you my friend.
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Posted by: Desert Cat at June 20, 2005 11:30 PM (xdX36)
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Casca's "cut the punk" comment gets my nomination.
Posted by: Mark MuNu at June 21, 2005 01:30 AM (TBkLy)
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Damn. I said "i got yo back". I said "I'm down". Even said "true dat". Brother can't get no love round here
But there's another reason, which appeals to me more. See even if McCain is the lesser of two evils, that still makes him evil. Sure, it's relatively better to vote for the false prophet than the antichrist (so to speak) but neither will endear you in Heaven. & when the lesser of two evils wins that seldom causes him/her to repent. If anything it fuels their ambitions which tend to gravitate toward the evil rather than the good.
Hell look at Arnie. Lesser of two evils compared to a democrat, but yet no democrat governor anyplace in the u.s. has banned a type of bolt action rifle.
when ya vote for thelesser of two evils ya get what ya pick - evil. & McCain (with his bill to de facto ban gunshows across the u.s. as well as his limits on free speech) is close enough to evil that him being the lesser of the choices would not endear me to the process, let alone casting a vote for him. (& the same applies for anyone in his position - I'm just picking on McCain cause I can). Shame we seldom have a choice between good & really good (like Kozinski v Ron Paul).
Oh, & it's not throwing away your vote unles syou feel the goal is to pick the winner. It's never a wasted vote if you wouldn't regret the candidate you voted for winning.
Posted by: Publicola at June 21, 2005 02:42 PM (bXrfV)
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If McCain is the nominee against Hillary, I'm voting for myself. Physics Geek for President!
McCain is a strutting, self-important peacock whose sole purpose in life appears to be garnering positive review from the NY Times. It's too bad, really, since he served this country well during wartime and suffered in ways that I cannot imagine during his captivity. But that pain doesn't excuse his having become a gigantic asshole.
Posted by: physics geek at June 22, 2005 10:11 AM (Xvrs7)
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I would choose McCain over any other Republican. I remember how he was targetted by the far right in the 2000 primaries after he surprised Bush with his upsets. Money flowed like floodwaters into the NRA, anti-abortion groups, and other arch right organizations, who proceeded to set up quick reaction call center campaigns intent on smearing McCain. The distortions and slander was so shameful that I began to question my 20 years as a stalwart Republican. Bush's cavalier 'We are in the delegate business' attitude finally convinced me to lead the Republican party on principle.
I had spent so much time acting as an apologist for my former party; I now enjoy my independent stance, as neither side can shake free their extremists, so I will focus on supporting those who will do the best for American, vs. the special interests of either party.
Posted by: Will Stewart at June 29, 2005 11:29 AM (GzvlQ)
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June 15, 2005
The Media Is On The Side Of The Enemy
i should turn this running theme into a rubric.
Here's the first few paragraphs of an SFGate article, this morning. SFGate, for those who don't know, is the San Francisco Chronicle and San Franscisco Examiner's joint website.
Mess-Hall Bombing Kills 26 Iraqi Soldiers
By PATRICK QUINN, Associated Press Writer
Wednesday, June 15, 2005
(06-15) 09:02 PDT BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- A suicide bomber walked into an Iraqi mess hall and blew himself up Wednesday, killing 25 Iraqi soldiers. The attack came as Iraqi and U.S. forces rescued an Australian hostage in Baghdad.
The troops, acting on a tip, freed Douglas Wood, a 64-year-old engineer who is a longtime resident of Alamo, Calif., during a raid in a dangerous Sunni neighborhood.
In a separate attack Wednesday, eight Iraqi policemen were killed when a suicide bomber slammed into two police cars in the capital. Thirteen bystanders also were wounded as two police cars burst into flames at the intersection in a predominantly Shiite neighborhood, police said.
Wood said he was "extremely happy and relieved to be free again," according to a message read by Australia's counterterrorism chief Nick Warner.
The raid took place as part of Operation Lightning — a broader counterinsurgency operation that began in Baghdad on May 29, Warner said. He added there "was specific intelligence and tips that provided a hint at what might be found at that location."
Wood was freed by the Iraqi army's 2nd battalion, 1st Armored Brigade, with assistance by U.S. forces in Ghazaliya — one of the most dangerous Sunni Arab neighborhood of Baghdad, Warner said. He added that "no ransom was paid" despite a request for a "very large" amount of money.
Wood was found under a blanket, and the insurgents told troops he was their sick father, said Gen. Naseer al-Abadi, Iraq's deputy chief of staff. The operation also resulted in the arrest of three insurgents and release of an Iraqi hostage.
"This is a great day for Iraq. We are proud of the way our soldiers conducted themselves," al-Abadi said.
Wood was abducted in late April by a militant group calling itself the Shura Council of the Mujahedeen of Iraq.
The Australian government refused to bend to the kidnappers' demands that its 1,400 troops be withdrawn from Iraq. It sent diplomats, police and military personnel to Baghdad to seek his release.
"I am delighted to inform the House that the Australian hostage in Iraq, Mr. Douglas Wood, is safe," Prime Minister John Howard told Parliament in Canberra, Australia.
Howard told reporters an Iraqi military unit, in cooperation with U.S. forces, rescued Wood.
i don't know who's responsible for the choice of headline, or the weird, confusing jumble of paragraphs at the top, AP or the SFGate editors. But don't tell me that the media does not make a conscious choice to emphasize the negative over the positive.
They are on the side of the enemy.
More ranting: And don't tell me that the media is not against us, when the first time i heard word one about the following news story was by reading Mark Steyn's column, via Michelle Malkin.
Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe's kleptocrat strongman, destroyed a mosque the other day. It was in Hatcliffe Extension, a shantytown on the edge of Harare, razed by the "police." Mr. Mugabe is an equal-opportunity razer: He also bulldozed a Catholic-run Aids center.
The government destroyed the town to drive the locals into the countryside to live on land stolen from white farmers. Quite how that's meant to benefit any of those involved or the broader needs of Zimbabwe is beyond me, but then I'm no expert in Afro-Marxist economic theory.
The point is the world's Muslims seem entirely cool with Infidel Bob razing a mosque. Unlike the fallout over Newsweek's fraudulent story about the Koran being flushed down a toilet, no excitable young men went bananas in Pakistan; no Western progressives berated Mr. Mugabe for his "cultural insensitivity." And sadly most of the big-shot Muslim spokespersons were still too busy flaying the Bush administration to whip their subjects into a frenzy over Hatcliffe Extension's pile of Islamic rubble.
Where is the Time magazine cover story on Mugabe? Now that the media has successfully broadened the definition of atrocity to include what was formerly considered minor annoyances, doesn't what Mugabe has been doing in Zimbabwe clearly fall into that category?
Or, since the media is on the side of the enemy, does Mugabe get a pass because it wasn't the United States that destroyed a mosque?
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interesting piece of info that facinates only me.
in 1994, the abc program nightline ran 4 episodes on what happened in rwanda.
in 2004, the abc program nightline ran 23 episodes on abu gharib.
Posted by: louielouie at June 15, 2005 01:56 PM (xKfMm)
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I can't seriously believe that you are so naive to really equate Mugabi and the United States.
Perhaps a little analogy:
A convicted criminal is found to have told a lie.
A respected member of the community is found to have told a lie.
Which is surprising? Which might provoke a story in the newspaper?
IT ISN'T NEWS when dictators are oppressive!
Louie:
ABC also will run a week straight of programming on a missing white woman as thousands are killed in Darfur. To be generous we'll say that local news sells. To be realistic maybe we'll say that viewers don't give a damn what happens in Africa.
Posted by: Preston at June 17, 2005 08:38 AM (wkfsI)
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Nice rationalization there Preston. You do it so well. You even imply that America is racist
"viewers don't give a damn what happens in Africa"). Where do you such original material?
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June 14, 2005
Rumsfeld Gives The Media A History And Civics Lesson
Radio Blogger has a transcript and video link to Don Rumsfeld's press conference today. His summation of the progress the Iraqi people have made since the liberation is so inspiring and important, that i'm going to cut and paste it here.
On the political portion of it, that's obviously not the business of this department, but I can comment on it.
The general feeling is as follows: That the election was held January 30th. It took a number of weeks to put a government together. Not a number of years, but a group of people, with no experience in democracy at all, took a number of weeks... a few months, to put together a government.
A lot of tugging and hauling, a lot of negotiating about what it would mean in the assembly, a lot of negotiating about what it might mean with respect to the constitution drafting, a lot of negotiating about what it might mean as to who's in what ministry, and for what reasons, and in the presidential council, I believe they call it. And they came to a conclusion.
When the conclusion was made and announced, one could look at worst case and say it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that the Shi'ia would say, "Okay, Sunnis, you didn't play in the election. You gave it to us for twenty, thirty years, and we didn't like it, and now it's our turn, and we're going to give it to you."
Quite the contrary. The Shi'ia, at the top leadership down, have been saying, "Look. We want to have one country. Let's reach out to the Sunnis. Let's include them. Let's find a way, even though they made a mistake and didn't participate in the election. Let's see that they're involved in this. Let's get them involved in the drafting of the constitution." Exactly the right instinct.
The Sunnis, instead of saying, "Okay, we didn't get in the election. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe it wasn't. But now, we're not well represented, and we're not going to play, and go separately, and try to break the country into three pieces." The Sunnis didn't do that. I mean, everyone you talk to said, "we made a mistake. The Sunnis made a mistake." They should have gotten involved in the election. They didn't get involved in the election. They now know they should have gotten involved in the election, and thank the good Lord the Shi'ia are reaching out to them, and the Kurds are reaching out to them, and trying to include them.
Now, what does it mean next? Well, they're going to have a lot of to'ing and fro'ing on the constitution. Fortunately, they made a lot of those decisions in the transitional administrative law, the so-called TAL. And it's there as a guidepost. It's not a mandate. It's not a speed limit or direction, but it is generally agreed to. And so it'll serve, I would think, as at least a touchstone for the very complicated task of trying to find a piece of paper that people, who have had historic hostilities to each other, that have been held together, not through love or respect, but through vicious dictatorship repressing them. That's how they've held together as a country.
And now they're going to look for a piece of paper that will do that for them instead. Instead of a vicious dictatorship. Instead of repression. Instead of a police state. Instead of mass graves, filled with people... bodies, tens of thousands of bodies. There's going to be a piece of paper that those people are going to have to put their faith in. That is an enormous thing.
And they're going to be debating that, and tugging on it, and to'ing and fro'ing, and they're going to, in my view, come up with one... just a minute... just a minute... And then they're going to take that to the Iraqi people and have them vote on it. And another 26 million people will have a chance, or population, or whoever's eligible to vote, men and women alike. Some large number is going to have a chance to go vote on that. And then, it'll be there, and then they'll vote on whatever that constitution says, for a president, or a prime minister, whatever, representatives, they'll have a chance to vote on that in December.
This is amazing. This is historic. This is a gigantic step forward. This ought not to be dismissed or trivialized. This is a big deal.
Will it happen? I think it'll happen. Can I guarantee anything in life? No. I can't. No one can. It's their country.
i've bolded the most important passages. A transcript can't capture Rumsfeld's inimitable delivery, but the words are important, and you won't see them reported on your nightly news or in tomorrow's propaganda sheets.
Also, there was a moment when a reporter, probably impatient that the Secretary of Defense had strayed from the truly important news of the day (i.e. that someone at Guantanamo might have looked the wrong way at a copy of the Koran.) tried to interrupt the Secretary, who completely rebuffed the reporter saying "just a minute... just a minute..." It was cool. Go listen to it.
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Imagine Rumsfeld as a law prof. Would you EVER miss class? I wouldn't!
Posted by: Mark at June 14, 2005 09:37 PM (Kng4J)
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Rumsfeld gave them a civics lesson, but they still need a lesson in manners.
Posted by: Bernard at June 14, 2005 09:55 PM (EoQHH)
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I once thought that nobody would ever surpass Weinburger as SecDef.
Posted by: Casca at June 14, 2005 11:27 PM (qBTBH)
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Cheney wasn't bad at SEcDef himself.
But, (as my grandchildren say): Rummy rules; the media drools.
Posted by: shelly at June 15, 2005 12:16 AM (pO1tP)
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Thank you for posting that, Annika.
At my college, journalism was the refuge for students that flunked out of every other major. That must be true for all colleges.
"This is amazing. This is historic. This is a gigantic step forward. This ought not to be dismissed or trivialized."
Is there anyone in MSM who opened a history book in their entire life? Or is democracy a concept repugnant to the MSM?
Posted by: Jake at June 15, 2005 06:06 AM (r/5D/)
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did i ever tell the story of the journalism major in my undergrad class on Latin American History who raised her hand halfway through the semester and said: "Professor, I've been reading the book like you told us to, but it keeps mentioning the Andes, and I can't figure out who they are. Are they some sort of political group?" True story. This same chick was always complaining about how easy history classes were compared to her journalism classes.
Posted by: annika at June 15, 2005 06:35 AM (F4sNN)
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"At my college, journalism was the refuge for students that flunked out of every other major."
One of my undergrad advisors (history and IR so I had too; this was the history prof) once made mention of "journalism, that fake major." I asked a classmate what that major consisted of and she explained that it primarily involved "hangging around the radio station smoking lots of pot."
Posted by: Dave J at June 16, 2005 09:00 AM (WV4/D)
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Er, and here I'm usually a grammar Nazi: TWO, not TOO. ;-)
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KCRA 3 News Is On The Side Of The Enemy
Direct quote at the end of the six o'clock newscast:
"Coming up at eleven, more complaints from the muslim community about how the FBI is treating muslim residents of Lodi."
What about the fact that certain members of that very community were PLANNING TO BLOW UP SUPERMARKETS AND HOSPITALS?!?!?!?!
Might that possibly be news too? Worthy of coverage? Huh? Anybody?
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I'm so tired of these muslim community people, spending more time complaining about imagined mistreatment. Could they maybe take a little time to give us a head's up on those in their communities that may be planning this stuff? Really, I don't want to make them break a sweat or anything, but a little effort here would be appreciated people.
Posted by: Pursuit at June 14, 2005 07:10 PM (VqIuy)
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Annika,
Regarding this post, I believe your latest bumper stick is the best summary.
Posted by: Mark at June 14, 2005 09:39 PM (Kng4J)
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i think it would be a good assignment, for someone from this news station to report on how many of them (who are them?, YES) have immigrated to this country, and how many native born americans have immigrated to their country.
not counting ARAMCO.
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June 13, 2005
The End Of The World
You'd think Governor Schwarzenegger was calling for the end of the world, by the way the Democrats, the unions and their fucking media accomplices
are carrying on. Here's what the Governor's special election is about:
1. A spending cap.
2. Teacher tenure in five years instead of two.
3. Ending gerrymandered districts.
But, Oh My God, the special election is going to cost EIGHTY ZILLION DOLLARS!
Yes, we already know how the liberals feel about democracy. They oppose it. Fabian Nuñez says the election is too expensive. Well, i never thought that one could put a price on the voice of the people in a democracy, for pete's sake. This is supposed to be a democracy isn't it?
Oh that's right, the liberals oppose the special election because it threatens to restore democracy.
You wouldn't believe the character assassination of Governor Schwarzenegger that has been going on in this state for about a year now. Fully funded by the teacher's and nurse's unions, and out-of-state special interests. The lies i hear every day in those below-the-belt political attack ads are enough to make me physically sick. And the worst thing about it is that they are working. Our indefatigable governor is doing an excellent job, and those dinosaurs in favor of the status quo know that the only way to stop reform is to turn people against the reformer.
It's dirty politics at its worst.
Here's another union attack ad on tv right now. You can't trust Governor Schwarzenegger, he broke his promises, he wants to take money away from schools.
Hey, what about the fact that this state has been run by the Democrats for decades, we keep throwing money at education, and our schools still suck? The unions and the bought-and-paid-for Democratic legislature have been all-powerful, but what has it gotten any of us? Their way is not working. We need to go in a different direction. The opposite direction. That's what this special election is all about.
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I hope California can turn around before it goes in the same direction as the ninnies across the Atlantic.
Posted by: reagan80 at June 13, 2005 11:19 PM (hlMFQ)
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Annika,
I'm also an admirer of Governor Schwarzenegger and of your state, which I used to visit frequently.
However, the governor made a HUGE strategic mistake during that stupid recall campaign in not calling for a repeal of Proposition 13 under cover of Warren Buffett's public recomendation. That was the last best chance to do so without few, if any, political consequences.
Given the dynamics of the Recall, it was a given that he would win. He didn't face the horrors of California's Republican primary, which is often a contest in who is the craziest and can lose most effectively. The governor will never have the opportunity again, and neither will any Republican. It should go without saying that no Democrat even has the balls to go after Prop 13.
More than anything else, 13 is the root of all of California's evils. More than anything else, and California has been riddled with insane government for nearly a century, Prop 13 has been responsible for starving local public services.
All of the debt ceilings in the world will do nothing to restore fiscal sanity to California with 13 in place. Debt ceilings are easily circumvented by a vote in the legislature, as the national Republicans did three times in the early 1990's with President Clinton's signature.
California's problem is that the state is forced to fund the localities because the state constitution refuses to let them do it for themselves.
Arnold could have chaned that and it is a tragedy that he didn't.
Posted by: skippystalin at June 13, 2005 11:54 PM (ruCNe)
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Fuck off Skippy. The cocksuckers (Demoncrats) in the statehouse have too much moolah.
Posted by: Casca at June 14, 2005 12:13 AM (qBTBH)
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caca is a tough act to follow, but i wanted to tell you annika that i added your button to my blog's side bar.
ive always liked it and your blog and now maybe it will remind me to come here more often because ive liked you for a long time, as ive said before, but im such a stoner i forget to get over here.
lets runaway away together. k?
Posted by: tony at June 14, 2005 02:51 AM (l7rkq)
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Annika,
Arnie doing a great job? I must disagree. Any governor, repub or dem, who approves of, supports & signs into law a ban on certain bolt action rifles is doing a terrible job - unless you're a statist (which I know you not to be). Sure, he hasn't done too badly on the econimic tip (which he seems to have borrowed more thna a few ideas from the real republican in that race - McClintock) but on the freedom-meter his job performnce is in the negative.
& no; we're not a democracy. We're a republic. democratic representation & all that - sure. But here are some things even the majority cannot or should not do. Granted, none of the things on the ballot seem out of line, but the point is that a democracy* is NOT a good thing. Hell, I'd wager good confederate money that the majority of Californians would approve of ya'lls head RINO banning those bolt actions. a Democracy is not for a free loving people; those types should seek a constituionally limited republic.
* yes I know - democracy is all too commonly meant to mean a democratically elected government rather than a pure democracy - but it's a dangerous misapplication of the connotation & should be corrected whenever it can be.
Posted by: Publicola at June 14, 2005 04:42 AM (bXrfV)
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Welcome Back Publicola!
Tony, celebrities and stoners are always welcome here!
Uncle Joe, i like Prop 13, but you may be right about Arnold's window of opportunity closing during the election. But there sure was a shit storm after Buffett made that comment, and i'm not so sure Arnold would have won if he had endorsed any change to prop 13. Californians love prop 13 almost as much as they love their abortions, meaning that if anyone tries to do away with either, you'll have revolution.
Posted by: annika at June 14, 2005 07:37 AM (9ei5+)
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I'd say if Arnold is even breathing wrong around teacher unions, he's quite a courageous guy. Unions generally are like dragons protecting their pile of gold, and woe to the poor soul who tries to reform anything that threatens their $.
Students and their education be damned. (Time for vouchers.)
Posted by: Mark at June 14, 2005 09:50 AM (8IsTQ)
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Annika,
Therein lies the beauty of the recall, as it didn't allow for a primary, there wasn't enough time for anyone to take down Arnold. Within that time frame, there wasn't anything another Republican could do about it. Besides, Arnold would be more than capable of saying, "I'm not going to run to be the governor of an ungovernable state. Here are the numbers, you do the math. If you don't like it, you can run that brain damaged idiot Bill Simon again. Davis only beat him by five points last time."
Since there are only about four Republicans in California and three of them are batshit, fucking nuts, Arnold calls the shots with the state party. How else do you think he gets away with being pro-choice and for gun control? It's because the state party knows that if they DON'T allow for it, they'll be a rump party that represents about four square blocks of Orange County. Knowing that his election was a sure thing, Arnold had a lot of latitude that other Republicans don't have.
Arnold could have done that during the Recall and can't now. Even if I thought he was going to run for his own term (which I don't), he get annhiliated in the primary if he tried.
The choice in the Recall could have been simply framed: lose 13 or keep Davis in office. Since Davis had the aproval rating of your average pedophile, there wouldn't have been a choice at all.
Although Governor Mary Carey would have been fun, and all things being equal, not notably worse than some of the people California routinely elects anyway.
Posted by: skippystalin at June 14, 2005 11:18 AM (ruCNe)
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I'd also like to point out something to Casca that he or she may have forgotten in high school civics. Property taxes generally do not go to Sacramento, they go to city hall.
Now, if I remember my Republican dogma correctly, it is preferable for local communities to control as much government as possible, the theory being that, say, Costa Mesa can run Costa Mesa better than Sacremento or (god forbid) Washington can.
The problem with that theory - as it applies to California - is that you need money to provide for things like schools, police and fire departments. With 13, the local governments can't finance those things, so Sacramento has to. To resort to a cliche, he who pays the piper calls the tune. As a Canadian, I know a lot about how that works.
The effect of 13 has ben to force the state to cover the cost of the municipalities, while the voters complain about service cutbacks and state over-regulation. This is much like desiring a place in heaven without dying. And reserving the right to bitch about how God runs the place.
Assuming that Republicans
really like small government, then they should favor repealing 13. Getting rid of a city councillor is a whole hell of a lot easier than icing a state reprenstative or senator. And once you get to the federal level, forget about it. Barbara Boxer is boderline retarded and she won by what last year, 13 points?
Controlling your destiny largely depends on keeping the people who control your money very close to you. The further away they get, the less control they have.
Besides, your paying as much (or more) to the state than you would to your city with 13 as you would without. Where do you think your state taxes and sales taxes go?
Proposition 13 turned out to be a political shell game. It allowed an already big government in Sacramento to become an enormous government.
Posted by: skippystalin at June 14, 2005 11:38 AM (ruCNe)
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My money says we (loyal member of CTA writing here) win this one. We'll lose the tenure vote, but we'll win on the budget and we will win on the union dues, just as we did back in 1998. It'll be close, but I think we on the left have a more energized base on this than the right does.
We'll see.
Posted by: Hugo Schwyzer at June 14, 2005 03:21 PM (2bqBq)
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"Hey, what about the fact that this state has been run by the Democrats for decades"
http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-governors-of-california
Earl Warren 1943 1953 Republican
Goodwin Knight 1953 1959 Republican
Pat Brown Sr. 1959 1967 Democrat
Ronald Reagan 1967 1975 Republican
Jerry Brown Jr. 1975 1983 Democrat
George Deukmejian 1983 1991 Republican
Pete Wilson 1991 1999 Republican
Gray Davis Jr. 1999 2003 Democrat
Arnold Schwarzenegger 2003 - Republican
Posted by: Preston at June 14, 2005 03:32 PM (wkfsI)
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look at the legislature preston.
Posted by: annika at June 14, 2005 03:50 PM (zAOEU)
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"I call dem economic GURRLIE MEHN."
Posted by: Mark at June 14, 2005 09:40 PM (Kng4J)
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June 10, 2005
As i Said...
The media is on the side of the enemy.
Check out this LGF story.
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June 08, 2005
Terrorists In Lodi
Lodi is just south of Sacramento.
The Jawa Report and
California Mafia has the latest on the terrorist cell broken up at a Lodi mosque.
Update: Here's a little information about Lodi, to put the strangeness of a sleeper cell in that town within some context.
Lodi was incorporated in 1906. Its current population is about 59,000. From 1992 to 1994, population remained steady at 53,000, but it began to grow slowly after 1995. The city sits on 12.2 square miles in San Joaquin County, and U.S. Highway 99 runs through the town, connecting it with Stockton, six miles to the south, and Sacramento, 35 miles to the north.
San Joaquin County voted for Bush in 2004, by 54% to 46%, although i would guess that the margin was much wider in Lodi than in the more urban and union friendly Stockton.
Crime in Lodi was higher than the U.S. average in 2002. Still, there were only 4 murders, 6 rapes, 75 robberies, 203 assaults, 436 burglaries and 486 auto thefts that year. By contrast, my hometown of Oakland had 108 murders, 249 rapes, 2,452 robberies, 2,852 assaults, 4,252 burglaries and 6,259 auto thefts in 2002.
Lodi's unemployment rate in 2000 was 6.5%, somewhat higher than California's average, which was 4.9% that year. The biggest employer in Lodi by far is the school district, followed by Blue Shield, the one hospital in town, General Mills Foods and a cannery. The local Wal-Mart and Target employ about 200 each.
Median household income in 2000 was $35,391. The median housing price today is $148,500.
Lodi's racial breakdown includes 63.5% White Non-Hispanic, 27.1% Hispanic, 1.3% Indian (from India), and 0.6% African-American. i would guess that Pakistanis would fall under the category of Other Asian, which comes in at 1.2%. Of the 18.8% foreign born citizens of Lodi, 12.7% are from Latin America and 3.9% are from Asia.
And of course, according to Lodi historian John Fogerty, those persons intending to pass through Lodi end up staying an average of seven months or more. And they'll be walking out, if they go.
Update: The late local news on at least two of the tv stations here in Sacramento was very irritating. They seem much more concerned about the possibility of anti-muslim "hate-crimes" than they are about the possibility that some terrorists might have been PLANNING TO BLOW UP HOSPITALS AND SUPERMARKETS!
The media are on the side of the enemy. (That means you KCRA and News 10.)
Update 2: Some excellent commentary is at Varifrank.
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makes me want to go out and buy a big ol' bottle of ravenswood.
st. amant?
Posted by: louielouie at June 08, 2005 10:42 AM (i7mWl)
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The
Rosenblum 2003 Lodi Syrah brims with exciting fruit extractions reminiscent of freshly baked blackberry pie, hints of cinnamon and just a touch of violet and lavender. Drink large quantities during Ramadan near crushed Islamofascist cells with Cherry Garcia ice cream to properly accent the full
terroir experience.
Posted by: d-rod at June 08, 2005 12:47 PM (CSRmO)
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I'll bet these guys are connected to those camelfuckers who work at the Frosty King outside of Lemore. Nobody is buying frozen custard at that shithole.
Posted by: Casca at June 08, 2005 03:52 PM (qBTBH)
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I always thought our Lodi is named for the Miwok word for " Dennys - Next Exit".
Posted by: Frank Martin at June 09, 2005 02:27 PM (BIwsj)
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everything i know about lodi is from fogerty's ccr song. . .
Posted by: bloopy at June 09, 2005 02:30 PM (gHiOW)
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...and now, from annika!
Posted by: annika at June 09, 2005 05:07 PM (Cj91j)
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"Here's a little information about Lodi, to put the strangeness of a sleeper cell in that town within some context."
Are we to understand that it is more surprising for a Bush voting community to harbor terrorists than a Kerry voting town?
Posted by: Preston at June 10, 2005 02:07 PM (wkfsI)
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Actually i was referring to the smallness of the town. i hadn't really thought about the Bush/Kerry thing. But you might be onto something there.
;-)
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Popular Science Debunks 911 Myths
A Western Heart links to an article in
Popular Science that debunks a number of ridiculous 911 myths, some of which i hadn't even heard of. Like the one where someone claims one of the New York planes didn't have windows, which proves it was a military tanker and therefore Bush did it. There's some wacko people in this world, but we already knew that.
Another crazy theory is that the planes should have been intercepted almost immediately and since they weren't, therefore Bush did it.
CLAIM: 'It has been standard operating procedures for decades to immediately intercept off-course planes that do not respond to communications from air traffic controllers,' says the Web site oilempire.us. 'When the Air Force "scrambles" a fighter plane to intercept, they usually reach the plane in question in minutes.'
FACT: In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999. With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts. Prior to 9/11, all other NORAD interceptions were limited to offshore Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ). 'Until 9/11 there was no domestic ADIZ,' FAA spokesman Bill Schumann tells PM. After 9/11, NORAD and the FAA increased cooperation, setting up hotlines between ATCs and NORAD command centers, according to officials from both agencies. NORAD has also increased its fighter coverage and has installed radar to monitor airspace over the continent.
Oh, i can hear the moonbats now: "
Popular Science is a stooge of the Bush administration."
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A book was published in France on lunatic conspiracies that all pointed to "Bush knew" and /or "the US gov. knew."
It was a best seller.
Your moonbat detector is well-tuned. Of course, it's hard not to hear them either. They're quite loud and obnoxiously illogical.
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Democrats Dean Forgot
Howard Dean,
on Thursday:
Speaking to the Campaign for America's Future, Mr. Dean called for easier rules for voting, saying it is difficult for working parents to make it to the polls on time and wait to vote.
'Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives,' Mr. Dean said.
Two words: pot. kettle.
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best thing to happen to the GOP I have to say. Right now our party has enough troubles what with bloating the budget (anybody recall '94) and new entitlement programs, etc. Dean allows us all to come together still because he makes it easy to realize just how shitty things could be...
Posted by: scof at June 04, 2005 05:51 PM (x8hF4)
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How can Republicans cater to corporate America (so the accusation goes) unless other Republicans are "working for a living"?
Excellent collage there, but it is lacking someone. Can you guess who it is? I'd like to forget him, but he insists on inserting himself in the news every few weeks, like Jesse Jackson and Jimmy Carter, politics answer to Paris Hilton.
Posted by: Mark at June 04, 2005 11:35 PM (jm1lB)
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True the absence of William Jefferson Blythe is glaring. I prefer his real name as opposed to his chosen one.
Posted by: Casca at June 05, 2005 09:53 AM (qBTBH)
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Comparison is a weak argument. However, the corruption in Washington is at an all time high, and it includes the Infamous 5 members of the Supreme Court who broke the law to appoint Bunnypants. To think that Democrats as a whole are as corrupt as the Bunnypants Gang is fundamentally absurd. Can we compare the damage, corruption and lies pre-Bunnypants to all that happened since he fraudulently took office? It makes Clinton and Gore look like freaking saints. And, I don't like them either. It seems a waste to rant and rave about crap you know ain't true, don't you think? Never mind.
Posted by: Citizen Milenko at June 05, 2005 10:06 AM (gINUe)
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Oh gawd. Not another troll with a three dollar copy of a logic 101 textbook. Do you guys all shop at the same used book store?
Posted by: annika at June 05, 2005 11:36 AM (wNjyE)
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Get over it, Milenko. Bush won Florida fairly in 2000 and his re-election reaffirms the predominate "redness" of Florida's electorate.
If it will help Milenko's logic skills out, he can have my old differential eguations solutions manual.
Posted by: reagan80 at June 05, 2005 12:44 PM (hlMFQ)
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Comrade, throw yourself on the bayonets of the capitalists! I have a few that I reserve for unwashed ignoranimi, that I'm prepared to lend out for this sort of thing.
Posted by: Casca at June 05, 2005 03:24 PM (qBTBH)
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Milenko,
The only law the Supreme Court broke in 2000 was "Liberals must always win at all costs."
Yes, that law was broken.
See also "Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment" as well as the one which forbids a state supreme court from extending deadlines by fiat.
Posted by: Mark at June 05, 2005 03:38 PM (Vg0tt)
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I must say I am astonished that a Bunnypants supporter would know anything about logic and/or advanced math. I thought that stuff was, you know, fuzzy. Fortunately, I know that any thinking person, even with conservative, non-progressive tendencies knows that the 2000 election was a con job,...and for documentation could read "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" by Greg Palast. I am, of course, referring to the minority of conservatives who actually read;...I'm not talking about those folks who buy an Ann Coulter, Newt Gingrich, or Bill Bennett values book and set it in the center of their coffee table to collect dust. Better for a working mind that these books aren't read anyway, I suppose. Anyway, the rambling point I am trying to make is that any effort to learn about anything from a news source which isn't Yell TV and Hate radio would do wonders for the inquiring mind. Critiques I've just read remind me of watching Fox News...(whose viewership is down by 58%. Phew.) I will give you all the benefit of the doubt by assuming you don't always believe what you're saying;...you just merely want to be on the winning side...and for now, Bunnypants wears the crown. Regrettably, there's not going to be room for all the Bunnypants apologists under the tent. It's by invitation only.
Posted by: Citizen Milenko at June 05, 2005 09:42 PM (gINUe)
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Milenko:
We don't need to read that liberal trash propaganda.
We have the Supreme Court Reports to read, and the President of the United States, not to mention a firm 55 to 44 (plus one special idiot on the way out) majority in the United States Senate, and a large un-reversible majority in the House of Representatives. Can you hear the People of the United States talking?
We are trying to tell you something; your shopworn tripe and slogans, augmented by citing writers using bootstrap logic don't sell anymore.
The battle is joined over IDEAS and you guys are fresh out.
So, trot out the Flori-Duh results (which have been over-analysed by everyone, and still come out with GWB WINNING) and mentally masturbate all over the web, but in the end, WE rule and YOU drool.
Shelly
P.S. It gets harder to increase the majority and easier to close it, so I was preparing to take a few losses this coming election. But with Hootin' Howard Dean installed in the Catbird Seat of the Democratic Party, I find new hope that we may yet net a few Senate seats and a few more House seats.
YaaaaHOOOO for Howard!!!
Posted by: shelly at June 06, 2005 01:18 AM (pO1tP)
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Milenko, with all due respect, please put it to rest.
To reiterate what Shelly posted, the American public isn't being suckered by the sloganeering, the illogical pseudo-arguments put forward by certain politicians. The internet has much to do with this; the truth is much more accessible, and BS more easily exposed.
True it may be harder to increase a majority, but I have good faith that as long as Dean et al keep talking, 58 Senators isn't such a crazy idea.
Posted by: Mark at June 06, 2005 07:57 AM (Hk4wN)
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i should add that, like all true Republicans, i adore Howard Dean. Hate his politics, but i love it when the man speaks his mind.
Go Howard! Keep up the good work!
Posted by: annika at June 06, 2005 01:31 PM (zAOEU)
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I sense ideologies on y'all's part which I would categorize as "backwards thinking." Not all conservatives are stupid, but nearly all stupid people are conservative. It's a quote I read somewhere. In a book. Anyway. Conservative ideology...(I guess, it doesn't include balanced budgets or states rights anymore,)...is basically a fear of change. Well,...unfortunately, change happens. It's inevitable. So is losing power. Which is what will happen to the conservatives once the state-run media propaganda machine is exposed for what it is,...and once we have a verified voting trail. Once the masses become educated and all for the most part vote...fairly,...the Bunnypants loyalists will no longer have the numbers to control anything but backwoods towns in former slave states.
Posted by: Citizen Milenko at June 06, 2005 01:42 PM (gINUe)
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"the Bunnypants loyalists will no longer have the numbers to control anything but backwoods towns in former slave states."
Typical Leftist Democratic elitism. The party of the "little guy" my ass.
Posted by: reagan80 at June 06, 2005 02:02 PM (hlMFQ)
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To reiterate what reagan80 posted, Milenko is of the same league of people who are masters at fuzzy, feel-good sloganeering.
1. We're to honor "diverse" opinions and backgrounds.
2. Similarly, we're to be "tolerant" of those who are different than us.
The list could go on.
Of course, the above two are immediately null and void whenever a conservative is at issue.
Hypocrites.
Posted by: Mark at June 06, 2005 02:53 PM (Hk4wN)
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A verified voting trail is going to help the Democrats?? Boy are you in for a surprise, Stedenko.
Posted by: annika at June 06, 2005 07:59 PM (wSNSb)
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I want to know who are these people who claim \\\"they\\\" rule LOL LOL I\\\'m sure they don\\\'t hold office anywhere, because office holders don\\\'t have to time to visit silly blogs like this... Therefore I highly doubt them rulling anything... not even their own lives.. they sound more like puppets bowing to corrupt politicians who just happen to say things that will please their micro egos hehe...
Posted by: ofakind at June 13, 2005 12:34 AM (8c4Q2)
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