June 07, 2005
Popular Science Debunks 911 Myths
A Western Heart links to an article in
Popular Science that debunks a number of ridiculous 911 myths, some of which i hadn't even heard of. Like the one where someone claims one of the New York planes didn't have windows, which proves it was a military tanker and therefore Bush did it. There's some wacko people in this world, but we already knew that.
Another crazy theory is that the planes should have been intercepted almost immediately and since they weren't, therefore Bush did it.
CLAIM: 'It has been standard operating procedures for decades to immediately intercept off-course planes that do not respond to communications from air traffic controllers,' says the Web site oilempire.us. 'When the Air Force "scrambles" a fighter plane to intercept, they usually reach the plane in question in minutes.'
FACT: In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999. With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts. Prior to 9/11, all other NORAD interceptions were limited to offshore Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ). 'Until 9/11 there was no domestic ADIZ,' FAA spokesman Bill Schumann tells PM. After 9/11, NORAD and the FAA increased cooperation, setting up hotlines between ATCs and NORAD command centers, according to officials from both agencies. NORAD has also increased its fighter coverage and has installed radar to monitor airspace over the continent.
Oh, i can hear the moonbats now: "
Popular Science is a stooge of the Bush administration."
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A book was published in France on lunatic conspiracies that all pointed to "Bush knew" and /or "the US gov. knew."
It was a best seller.
Your moonbat detector is well-tuned. Of course, it's hard not to hear them either. They're quite loud and obnoxiously illogical.
Posted by: Mark at June 07, 2005 12:06 PM (Hk4wN)
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June 04, 2005
Democrats Dean Forgot
Howard Dean,
on Thursday:
Speaking to the Campaign for America's Future, Mr. Dean called for easier rules for voting, saying it is difficult for working parents to make it to the polls on time and wait to vote.
'Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives,' Mr. Dean said.

Two words: pot. kettle.
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best thing to happen to the GOP I have to say. Right now our party has enough troubles what with bloating the budget (anybody recall '94) and new entitlement programs, etc. Dean allows us all to come together still because he makes it easy to realize just how shitty things could be...
Posted by: scof at June 04, 2005 05:51 PM (x8hF4)
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How can Republicans cater to corporate America (so the accusation goes) unless other Republicans are "working for a living"?
Excellent collage there, but it is lacking someone. Can you guess who it is? I'd like to forget him, but he insists on inserting himself in the news every few weeks, like Jesse Jackson and Jimmy Carter, politics answer to Paris Hilton.
Posted by: Mark at June 04, 2005 11:35 PM (jm1lB)
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True the absence of William Jefferson Blythe is glaring. I prefer his real name as opposed to his chosen one.
Posted by: Casca at June 05, 2005 09:53 AM (qBTBH)
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Comparison is a weak argument. However, the corruption in Washington is at an all time high, and it includes the Infamous 5 members of the Supreme Court who broke the law to appoint Bunnypants. To think that Democrats as a whole are as corrupt as the Bunnypants Gang is fundamentally absurd. Can we compare the damage, corruption and lies pre-Bunnypants to all that happened since he fraudulently took office? It makes Clinton and Gore look like freaking saints. And, I don't like them either. It seems a waste to rant and rave about crap you know ain't true, don't you think? Never mind.
Posted by: Citizen Milenko at June 05, 2005 10:06 AM (gINUe)
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Oh gawd. Not another troll with a three dollar copy of a logic 101 textbook. Do you guys all shop at the same used book store?
Posted by: annika at June 05, 2005 11:36 AM (wNjyE)
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Get over it, Milenko. Bush won Florida fairly in 2000 and his re-election reaffirms the predominate "redness" of Florida's electorate.
If it will help Milenko's logic skills out, he can have my old differential eguations solutions manual.
Posted by: reagan80 at June 05, 2005 12:44 PM (hlMFQ)
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Comrade, throw yourself on the bayonets of the capitalists! I have a few that I reserve for unwashed ignoranimi, that I'm prepared to lend out for this sort of thing.
Posted by: Casca at June 05, 2005 03:24 PM (qBTBH)
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Milenko,
The only law the Supreme Court broke in 2000 was "Liberals must always win at all costs."
Yes, that law was broken.
See also "Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment" as well as the one which forbids a state supreme court from extending deadlines by fiat.
Posted by: Mark at June 05, 2005 03:38 PM (Vg0tt)
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I must say I am astonished that a Bunnypants supporter would know anything about logic and/or advanced math. I thought that stuff was, you know, fuzzy. Fortunately, I know that any thinking person, even with conservative, non-progressive tendencies knows that the 2000 election was a con job,...and for documentation could read "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" by Greg Palast. I am, of course, referring to the minority of conservatives who actually read;...I'm not talking about those folks who buy an Ann Coulter, Newt Gingrich, or Bill Bennett values book and set it in the center of their coffee table to collect dust. Better for a working mind that these books aren't read anyway, I suppose. Anyway, the rambling point I am trying to make is that any effort to learn about anything from a news source which isn't Yell TV and Hate radio would do wonders for the inquiring mind. Critiques I've just read remind me of watching Fox News...(whose viewership is down by 58%. Phew.) I will give you all the benefit of the doubt by assuming you don't always believe what you're saying;...you just merely want to be on the winning side...and for now, Bunnypants wears the crown. Regrettably, there's not going to be room for all the Bunnypants apologists under the tent. It's by invitation only.
Posted by: Citizen Milenko at June 05, 2005 09:42 PM (gINUe)
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Milenko:
We don't need to read that liberal trash propaganda.
We have the Supreme Court Reports to read, and the President of the United States, not to mention a firm 55 to 44 (plus one special idiot on the way out) majority in the United States Senate, and a large un-reversible majority in the House of Representatives. Can you hear the People of the United States talking?
We are trying to tell you something; your shopworn tripe and slogans, augmented by citing writers using bootstrap logic don't sell anymore.
The battle is joined over IDEAS and you guys are fresh out.
So, trot out the Flori-Duh results (which have been over-analysed by everyone, and still come out with GWB WINNING) and mentally masturbate all over the web, but in the end, WE rule and YOU drool.
Shelly
P.S. It gets harder to increase the majority and easier to close it, so I was preparing to take a few losses this coming election. But with Hootin' Howard Dean installed in the Catbird Seat of the Democratic Party, I find new hope that we may yet net a few Senate seats and a few more House seats.
YaaaaHOOOO for Howard!!!
Posted by: shelly at June 06, 2005 01:18 AM (pO1tP)
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Milenko, with all due respect, please put it to rest.
To reiterate what Shelly posted, the American public isn't being suckered by the sloganeering, the illogical pseudo-arguments put forward by certain politicians. The internet has much to do with this; the truth is much more accessible, and BS more easily exposed.
True it may be harder to increase a majority, but I have good faith that as long as Dean et al keep talking, 58 Senators isn't such a crazy idea.
Posted by: Mark at June 06, 2005 07:57 AM (Hk4wN)
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i should add that, like all true Republicans, i adore Howard Dean. Hate his politics, but i love it when the man speaks his mind.
Go Howard! Keep up the good work!
Posted by: annika at June 06, 2005 01:31 PM (zAOEU)
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I sense ideologies on y'all's part which I would categorize as "backwards thinking." Not all conservatives are stupid, but nearly all stupid people are conservative. It's a quote I read somewhere. In a book. Anyway. Conservative ideology...(I guess, it doesn't include balanced budgets or states rights anymore,)...is basically a fear of change. Well,...unfortunately, change happens. It's inevitable. So is losing power. Which is what will happen to the conservatives once the state-run media propaganda machine is exposed for what it is,...and once we have a verified voting trail. Once the masses become educated and all for the most part vote...fairly,...the Bunnypants loyalists will no longer have the numbers to control anything but backwoods towns in former slave states.
Posted by: Citizen Milenko at June 06, 2005 01:42 PM (gINUe)
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"the Bunnypants loyalists will no longer have the numbers to control anything but backwoods towns in former slave states."
Typical Leftist Democratic elitism. The party of the "little guy" my ass.
Posted by: reagan80 at June 06, 2005 02:02 PM (hlMFQ)
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To reiterate what reagan80 posted, Milenko is of the same league of people who are masters at fuzzy, feel-good sloganeering.
1. We're to honor "diverse" opinions and backgrounds.
2. Similarly, we're to be "tolerant" of those who are different than us.
The list could go on.
Of course, the above two are immediately null and void whenever a conservative is at issue.
Hypocrites.
Posted by: Mark at June 06, 2005 02:53 PM (Hk4wN)
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A verified voting trail is going to help the Democrats?? Boy are you in for a surprise, Stedenko.
Posted by: annika at June 06, 2005 07:59 PM (wSNSb)
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I want to know who are these people who claim \\\"they\\\" rule LOL LOL I\\\'m sure they don\\\'t hold office anywhere, because office holders don\\\'t have to time to visit silly blogs like this... Therefore I highly doubt them rulling anything... not even their own lives.. they sound more like puppets bowing to corrupt politicians who just happen to say things that will please their micro egos hehe...
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June 01, 2005
Economy Survey, i'm Just Curious
Would you please supply the missing word:
The American economy today is ________.
i'd like to compile as many responses as possible, and i'll post about it. Please use only one word answers.
i've turned comments off so that one response won't influence the next. Please take a moment and click here to send me your answer.
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May 23, 2005
Who Got Who
The deal is in. Via
NRO:
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ON JUDICIAL NOMINATIONS
We respect the diligent, conscientious efforts, to date, rendered to the Senate by Majority Leader Frist and Democratic Leader Reid. This memorandum confirms an understanding among the signatories, based upon mutual trust and confidence, related to pending and future judicial nominations in the 109th Congress.
This memorandum is in two parts. Part I relates to the currently pending judicial nominees; Part II relates to subsequent individual nominations to be made by the President and to be acted upon by the SenateÂ’s Judiciary Committee.
We have agreed to the following:
Part I: Commitments on Pending Judicial Nominations
A. Votes for Certain Nominees. We will vote to invoke cloture on the following judicial nominees: Janice Rogers Brown (D.C. Circuit), William Pryor (11th Circuit), and Priscilla Owen (5th Circuit).
B. Status of Other Nominees. Signatories make no commitment to vote for or against cloture on the following judicial nominees: William Myers (9th Circuit) and Henry Saad (6th Circuit).
Part II: Commitments for Future Nominations
A. Future Nominations. Signatories will exercise their responsibilities under the Advice and Consent Clause of the United States Constitution in good faith. Nominees should only be filibustered under extraordinary circumstances, and each signatory must use his or her own discretion and judgment in determining whether such circumstances exist.
B. Rules Changes. In light of the spirit and continuing commitments made in this agreement, we commit to oppose the rules changes in the 109th Congress, which we understand to be any amendment to or interpretation of the Rules of the Senate that would force a vote on a judicial nomination by means other than unanimous consent or Rule XXII.
We believe that, under Article II, Section 2, of the United States Constitution, the word “Advice” speaks to consultation between the Senate and the President with regard to the use of the President’s power to make nominations. We encourage the Executive branch of government to consult with members of the Senate, both Democratic and Republican, prior to submitting a judicial nomination to the Senate for consideration.
Such a return to the early practices of our government may well serve to reduce the rancor that unfortunately accompanies the advice and consent process in the Senate.
We firmly believe this agreement is consistent with the traditions of the United States Senate that we as Senators seek to uphold.
While both sides will undoubtedly claim a victory, the conservative true-believers are not happy, from what i've gathered in the last half hour or so listening to the radio and tv pundits.
i'm not overjoyed at the compromise, but i'll have to live with it. What choice do i have? Last time i checked, i am not a United States Senator.
So this is a deal that allows the Democrats to save face, while still giving the Republicans a vote on some of the nominees. Or, it's just as accurate to say that it allows the Republicans to save face while still allowing the Democrats the option to filibuster in the future.
In the world of civil litigation, lawyers say it's a good settlement when both sides are unhappy. But there's another rule in negotiating settlements: "Never negotiate away your leverage in exchange for "goodwill."*
If there's one thing plaintiffs attorneys and Democrats have in common (besides John Edwards) it's that you can't trust a single one of them to act in good faith. Like Sam Gompers, they want only one thing: "more." And they're absolutely shameless about getting it. We saw that in the way guys like Harry Reid completely flip-flopped on the issue of floor votes for judicial nominees.
That's why the most troublesome part of the deal for me is this clause:
Nominees should only be filibustered under extraordinary circumstances, and each signatory must use his or her own discretion and judgment in determining whether such circumstances exist.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that that's a promise meant to be broken. And when they do break it, as i promise you the Democrats will, we'll be arguing about the meaning of "extraordinary circumstances" instead of the meaning of the Constitution.
That's the biggest problem with the deal. It takes the issue of constitutionality off the table. The true-believers have a right to be angry on that point. By conceding to the minority a power to block majority will on judicial nominees, the Republicans have conceded the constitutionality of that procedural tactic. They caved in on the very principle that brought about this entire crisis. And for what? A bit of goodwill. A promise to be good from now on.
Ha! That's worth about two dead flies.
Why would Senate Republicans negotiate away all their leverage by giving up the nuclear option in exchange for a promise? Because they are suckers? Because they love Senate tradition more than they love the Constitution? Or because the Republican Senate leadership is just plain bad at their job?
As i mentioned before, my ideal solution would have been to do away with all filibusters on all issues. Why the hell should one half of the legislature have that stupid rule when the other house does very well without it? The filibuster is almost never used for a noble purpose.
i agree with the late Tip O'Neill, who was wrong about so many things. But he was on the right track when he wrote:
Thanks to television, the House of Representatives is now recognized as the dominant branch of Congress,. [sic] In 1986, the Senate brought in TV cameras as well. But the senators ramble on for hours, whereas our members can speak for only five minutes, apart from "special orders" at the end of the day, and a few other exceptions. Unlike the rules of the House, those of the Senate allow for unlimited debate and unrestricted amendments. Now that the Senate is on television, the prestige of the House should continue to increase."
[Thomas P. O'Neill, Man of the House, p. 290, Random House, 1987]
Today's compromise, in favor of a supposed status quo that's not even really a status quo, ensures that the Senate will remain the weaker, less prestigious house in my book. How can anyone say otherwise when its own rules allow the minority to dictate to the majority and no one has the guts to do anything about it?
More outrage: see Professor H; Three Knockdown Rule; i can't disagree with Patterico's prediction; Spoons has a riddle; and Mark Nicodemo agrees that the Senate Republicans are inept; and Nikita Demosthenes calls them out by name.
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* Okay, i don't know if that's really a negotiating rule, i just made it up. But it should be.
[Cross-posted at A Western Heart.]
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If this is true, then Frist has failed as a leader. Either he couldn't get the 51 votes, or his shit is weak. Actually, folding his hand in this situation proves that his shit is weak no matter what. It's time to start appointing Senators again. These little lords are vexing.
Posted by: Casca at May 23, 2005 07:18 PM (qBTBH)
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Here here, repeal the 17th!
Posted by: scof at May 23, 2005 11:28 PM (x8hF4)
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This clause stunned me as well:
"Nominees should only be filibustered under extraordinary circumstances, and each signatory must use his or her own discretion and judgment in determining whether such circumstances exist."
Annika took the words right outta my mouth:
"It doesn't take a genius to figure out that that's a promise meant to be broken. And when they do break it, as i promise you the Democrats will, we'll be arguing about the meaning of "extraordinary circumstances" instead of the meaning of the Constitution."
I don't know what the mood in the air was when Republicans agreed to that, but seems to me that this "deal" ultimately was Dems "giving" what they were supposed to DO in the FIRST place.
If Dems want to appoint judges so badly, fine. Perhaps they should begin by winning some ELECTIONS?
Posted by: Mark at May 24, 2005 12:10 PM (uoa3P)
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Repubs snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
They were like a basketball team which was ahead by ten points with one minute to play - and then they lost the game.
You're right on about renegade Repubs enshrining judicial filibusters as legitimate. Here's another horrible repercussion: renegade Repubs defined some number of Bush judicial nominees as "extraordinarily" unfit to be judges(thus also defining Bush as a President who would nominate "extraordinarily" unfit judicial candidates).
This agreement is based on falsehoods:
1) Judicial filibusters are not legitimate.
2) Bush's nominess are not "extraodinarily" unfit.
3) Bush is not a President who nominates "extraordinarily" unfit nominees.
Per Eric Cartman, I'd like to kick those Senators in the nuts!
Posted by: gcotharn at May 24, 2005 01:37 PM (3Bn47)
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Pro-Life And Pro-Abortion
Doug TenNapel
made a provocative statement, which happens to be a pretty good summary of what i believe on the subject.
First of all, let me state that I'm Pro-Life and Pro-Abortion. . . . But the only instance where I think abortion is moral would be when two human lives are likely to die and if one life is aborted so that only one will die, then abortion is a moral act.
Read the rest. It's a wide ranging but well reasoned post, which touches on the
malum prohibitum vs.
malum in se dichotomy, and just war theory too.
And on a related theme, Michelle Malkin asks if abortion is funny. Some people think so.
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I'm for the "Right to Choose", at least until they're 18.
Posted by: Casca at May 23, 2005 05:55 PM (qBTBH)
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May 19, 2005
The Middle Finger
Celebrity blogger and annika's journal visitor,
Hugh Hewitt, spent the major portion of his radio show today talking about the Pepsico middle finger controversy. Here's the professor's
summary:
The President and CFO of Pepsico gave a speech at Columbia Business School's commencement. In the speech, Indra Nooyi compared the fingers of the hand to different parts of the world. The United States got the middle finger. What a surprise! How courageous for Ms. Nooyi, how daring, and such soaring rhetoric.
The key passage from Ms. Nooyi's address is this one:
As the longest of the fingers, [the United States] really stands out. The middle finger anchors every function that the hand performs and is the key to all of the fingers working together efficiently and effectively. This is a really good thing, and has given the U.S. a leg-up in global business since the end of World War I.
However, if used inappropriately --just like the U.S. itself-- the middle finger can convey a negative message and get us in trouble. You know what I'm talking about. In fact, I suspect you're hoping that I'll demonstrate what I mean. And trust me, I'm not looking for volunteers to model.
Discretion being the better part of valor...I think I'll pass.
What is most crucial to my analogy of the five fingers as the five major continents, is that each of us in the U.S. --the long middle finger-- must be careful that when we extend our arm in either a business or political sense, we take pains to assure we are giving a hand...not the finger. Sometimes this is very difficult. Because the U.S. --the middle finger-- sticks out so much, we can send the wrong message unintentionally.
Unfortunately, I think this is how the rest of the world looks at the U.S. right now. Not as a part of the hand --giving strength and purpose to the rest of the fingers-- but, instead, scratching our nose and sending a far different signal.
Here's the lady's
half-assed apology:Following my remarks to the graduating class of Columbia University's Business School in New York City, I have come to realize that my words and examples about America unintentionally depicted our country negatively and hurt people. I appreciate the honest comments that have been shared with me since then, and am deeply sorry for offending anyone. I love America unshakably - without hesitation - and am extremely grateful for the opportunities and support our great nation has always provided me.
Over the years I've witnessed and advised others how a thoughtless gesture or comment can hurt good, caring people. Regrettably, I've proven my own point. I made a mistake and, again, I'm very sorry.
Apology not accepted, babe. Mainly because i'm not, as she said,
hurt or
offended by her speech. Don't get me wrong, i think the lady hasn't the faintest idea what a great country she now lives in. Her viewpoint has been tainted by hanging around America-hating New York intellectuals. But what she sees as an American negative - the fact that we stick out, that the "world" thinks we're too arrogant - is actually a source of unabashed pride for me.

i believe in American exceptionalism. i don't think America needs to be more humble. If my country has ever flipped anyone off in the past, that's something i want to see more of. Look at the scoreboard. Was America "scratching its nose" with the middle finger when we saved the world from tyranny three times in one century? Like the song says, fuck yeah! Was it arrogance when our fifth president declared "hands off this hemisphere" to the superpowers of his day? Or when T.R. said "let's build that fucking canal!" (paraphrasing). Or when Jack promised we'd walk on the moon within the decade? Sure it was. And so what?
Egypt of the Pharaohs. Imperial Rome. Spain in the siglo de oro. Napoleon's France. Victoria's Great Britain. Name a superpower in history that hasn't been arrogant. You can't. Name a superpower that's done as much good in the world as America has in the last two centuries? You can't do that either.
We are different. We are better. And i'm sick and tired of our own people getting on a public stage and telling us we should bow and beg and be meek in front of the rest of the world. When was that ever an American trait? i hope it never is.
So let the America-haters and the timid intellectuals whine. Call me a jingoist, i won't be offended. i'm proud to be a flag waving, middle finger sticking, American.
p.s. All real Americans drink Coke anyways.
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Hell fucking yeah! Standing applause for Annika!
Brilliant...simply brilliant. I think I'll post my own middle-finger salute tonight, and link to your brilliant rant.
Posted by: Robbie at May 19, 2005 08:03 PM (htx4h)
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Posted by: Robbie at May 19, 2005 08:42 PM (htx4h)
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i'm not sure what else you can do to earn the big fat smile i have on my face. i'm gonna go have a coke and keep on smilin...
Posted by: scof at May 19, 2005 10:04 PM (x8hF4)
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Well of course you're right. I thought we all understood that.
As for this culturally illiterate third world mutherfuckette whom we've taken to our breast, how else to remind people that Michael Jackson was once a Pepsi flack.
Posted by: Casca at May 19, 2005 11:10 PM (qBTBH)
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If America is so bad, why is she here?
This country isn't heaven. No place is. They aren't sneaking across the border to get to wherever she came from. That pretty much says it all.
Posted by: Mark at May 20, 2005 04:26 AM (oQofX)
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For a bunch of toughguys you're a sensitive lot. My God, it was a speech asking international businesspeople to be respectful of other cultures- for the sake of their _businesses_ as well as their country. What's next- an analysis of the political meaning of the latest Star Wars?
For the record, this was also part of the speech:
“As the longest of fingers it really stands out. The middle finger anchors every function that the hand performs and is the key to all of the fingers working together efficiently and effectively. This is really a good thing, and has given the U.S. a leg-up in global business since the end of World War I”
“This land we call home is a most-loving, and ever-giving nation- a “promised land” that we love in return”
I guess the next act in the 'sky is falling' culture wars has begun: cue tape on Fox News' round-the-clock coverage on this woman that none of us had ever heard of a week ago.
Posted by: Preston at May 20, 2005 06:41 AM (wkfsI)
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FUCK YEAH!! Totally agree with you Annika. "i'm proud to be a flag waving, middle finger sticking, American." New tagline for my e-mail, if ya don't mind me borrowing it.
Posted by: Joe from jersey at May 20, 2005 07:32 AM (dO3Ek)
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Annie:
We just need to give the finger back to her, apology or no.
I say, begin a boycott against Pepsi and pass the word around the web:
When they dump Indra Nooyi, the boycott is off, otherwise we keep it in effect and cause it to spread. She has a right to speak her mind, and we have a right to spend our dollars.
If she loses her job, well, I'll apologize, that ought to make her feel better.
No one has mentioned this in the posts, so I will:
She is one of the "Blame America First Crowd"; if they don't like living and working here, they can live and work somewhere else where the govenment is not so objectionable.
I suggest she try Iran; she'd look better in a burhka anyway.
Posted by: shelly at May 20, 2005 07:57 AM (pO1tP)
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this finger.
http://www.francesucks.com/
Posted by: louielouie at May 20, 2005 09:21 AM (i7mWl)
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You can tell liberals are ultra-tolerant because they only dominate 95% of the media, and with no sense of shame, attack the lone network that gives time to conservative views.
That's "tolerance" alright.
Posted by: mark at May 20, 2005 10:49 AM (Hk4wN)
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Love the finger!
Preston - I'm sooo happy the Pepsi lady pointed out that it is ok for America to be exceptional. Thank God she cleared that up!
This is a good time to whip out one of my favorite quotes of the last few years - from Mona Charen:
"Is it really arrogance to believe that the system and the culture we've inherited is superior to others? Or is it ingratitude to deny it?"
Also, here's the words to "America, Fuck Yeah!":
http://theendzone.blogspot.com/2004/11/life-imitates-art-team-america-aids.html
That song might be good for a Wed poetry day.
Posted by: gcotharn at May 20, 2005 10:55 AM (OxYc+)
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I hope Mrs. Falcon doesn't read this because I was twitterpated by that post.
Posted by: goldfalcon at May 20, 2005 12:01 PM (LCCTJ)
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Not that I am a fan of giving the middle finger, I wholeheartedly agree with you Annika! We'll kiss the world's butt when we are on our knees, but not before then!
Posted by: javaslinger at May 20, 2005 02:46 PM (BK2EC)
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Annie, you're a goddess.
And you're absolute right about Coke.
Posted by: Matt at May 20, 2005 06:18 PM (vQvTM)
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Shit! Absolute
ly right.
Explanation for my stumbly fingers,
here.
Posted by: Matt at May 20, 2005 06:21 PM (vQvTM)
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Fuck yeah! We should be proud, being all "we're so sorry for having a system that allows us to become rich and powerful" is a bunch of crap. We worked damn hard as a nation to get where we are and we shouldn't apologize. It would be like Lance Armstrong apologizing for kicking ass in the Tour De France. This is right up there with those shirts that apologize for being American in ten languages. If you want to do crap like that go to one of those ten countries and stay there. My family immigrated here legally in the 1930's from Norway and I'm damn proud of what we have acheived, and I'm damn proud of my country. So if they want to think of us as giving them the bird then so be it because in a way we are and I'm glad we are doing it.
Posted by: Andy at May 20, 2005 09:44 PM (l04c2)
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you had me, then you lost me, then you had me, then you lost me.
to answer your question, Jesus was a superpower who wasnt arrogant.
or if thats too highbrow for your supporters, think about it this way, name a guy youve met with a huge... uh... advantage
think about how much more you respect him when he doesnt shove it in the faces of others who werent so blessed.
walk softly with your big - finger, ms annika.
regards from your diet pepsi drinking, C2 swigging pal down here in intellectual yet untimid LA
Posted by: tony at May 21, 2005 12:03 AM (84E1F)
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Tony,
I don't think your Jesus analogy gets you very far.
The rest of the world considers it arrogant that we do what we believe needs to be done, even when most of them consider it to be wrong, scandalous, shocking or what-have-you. Well, so did Jesus. From eating with the tax collectors and prostitutes to cleansing the temple, He always did what He knew to be right -- regardless of what anyone else thought. Even his own disciples rarely understood his actions and teachings at first. He didn't let that stop him. Nowhere in the Bible do you see Jesus bowing and scraping to his disciples, saying, "you're right; in the future I'll tone it down. It was wrong of me to shock your sensibilities." If the disciples failed to understand him, if they found his actions scandalous, it was up to
them -- not Jesus -- to change.
Of course Jesus had the advantage of being God, and therefore conclusively
right in all He did. But the point is that there's nothing arrogant about doing what's right, even when it puts you in the minority. (If there were, we'd have to conclude that Jesus was indeed arrogant.)
I believe this country is
right about most of the things it does that so greatly upset so many people. That being the case, I cannot bring myself to care if the rest of the world is too foolish, craven or corrupt to see that we are right. Like the disciples,
they're the ones who need to adjust. Of course, unlike Jesus, we don't have the luxury of knowing to a certainty that we're right. He didn't make mistakes; we have, and will. But we're right a lot more often than we're wrong, so I'm willing to live with that risk.
Posted by: Matt at May 21, 2005 06:53 AM (vQvTM)
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I would humbly dispute the contention that Jesus never made mistakes. Mistakes can be of omission as well as commision and after all He was human too. He could have been clearer in denouncing say the death penalty against homosexuals as proscribed in the OT and made clarifications to many texts which could have saved millions of innocent lives later and avoided religious atrocities like the Inquisition. This place was pretty messed up when Popes ruled the world.
Posted by: d-rod at May 21, 2005 09:05 AM (/ga2e)
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Jesus is not responsible for what the Popes did. As far as the Inquisition, I think he covered it by saying "Love your neighbor as yourself" and "Judge not, let ye be judged." Do you need any more clarification than that?
Posted by: javaslinger at May 21, 2005 10:50 AM (BK2EC)
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Yeah probably, since Jesus was not the first person to pronounce these ideals - Buddha and Lao-tse were saying these things 500 years earlier. But if popes are not followers of Jesus, who is?
Posted by: d-rod at May 21, 2005 12:51 PM (WnsbM)
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Just because you profess to be a follower of Jesus and do things in his name does not mean you are a true follower. Because of free will, God cannot be responsible for man's actions. This is one thing I have had a problem with the Catholic church; that the Pope viewed as almost devine and infallible. They may profess to be followers, but one way to know what is in a man's heart is to see how he acts. "By their fruit ye shall know them." Christ warned of many that would come in his name and do things in his name, but he stated that they would be judged accordingly on judgement day. Like anything in life, you gotta walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
To be more on topic, Christ was (and still is) a superpower, but his mission was not to dominate the world, but to save it. Being a Diety is a definite advantage in this area. Men on the other hand have limited options. As far as being arrogant, I think that it is justified, only if you can back it up. Christ could back it up, but he chose not to. He would have never connected with his disciples, or the poor, if he had projected such an attitude.
And concerning the advantage, Tony; most guys big enough to push others around aren't exactly loaded for bear, if you get my drift. Whenever I hear a guy bragging about having a big winkie, I automatically think he is lying anyway. If you got it, you don't have to brag. If you are worried about this, I would suggest you have some inferiority issues to deal with. Ever hear of good things coming in small packages?
Posted by: javaslinger at May 21, 2005 01:38 PM (BK2EC)
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You know I was informed by a rather smart lady that its not that Pope is divine/infallible in whatever he does, its just when he makes pronouncements on doctrine.
...as far as d-rod's comments, well its clear he doesn't have a grasp of christianity, which of course distorts one's view of humanity as well. Not to be mean about it, it's just he doesn't understand, and I don't know that a comment box is the place to remedy that...but what the hell, i'm bored and its too hot to go outside, so we'll see
Posted by: scof at May 21, 2005 04:46 PM (x8hF4)
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java,
You said, "This is one thing I have had a problem with the Catholic church; that the Pope viewed as almost devine and infallible." Let me clarify.
Divine - no.
Infallible - yes. But only (1) in his
teachings; (2) on matters of faith and morals; and (3) under narrow circumstances. There is absolutely no question, in Catholic teaching or elsewhere, that the Pope is a man and thus fully capable of all sorts of terrible sins, just like any other man.
However, we also believe that he is Christ's direct representative on Earth, and Catholics therefore believe (or at least many believe, and the Church teaches) that the Pope commands great obedience and respect even when he is badly flawed.
By the way, I generally agree that "one way to know what is in a man's heart is to see how he acts." However, the fact that a man sins -- even badly -- does not mean he is not a Christian. It means he's human. Even devout Christians sin. Remember: Peter denied Jesus three times before the cock crowed -- and this after following Him and witnessing his miracles first-hand. All I'm saying is that I think it's rather tricky to judge who is or isn't a follower of Christ based on outward appearances.
Posted by: Matt at May 21, 2005 04:49 PM (vQvTM)
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What does Jesus have to do with Pepsico official trash talking the USA?
He doesn't drink Pepsi or give anyone the finger, let alone the USA.
He's not stupid enough to want to be nuked by Rummy. One crucifixion ought to be enough for anyone.
Posted by: shelly at May 22, 2005 01:56 AM (pO1tP)
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With you on the Coke.
On the historical side, America is indeed exceptional, but not
entirely unique. Rome and Great Britain cared for their empires in a way other powers have not. On the other hand, they were
empires, where America's empire is freedom itself. Um, on yet another hand, Britain left democracy behind in almost every place it once ruled.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 22, 2005 03:25 AM (+S1Ft)
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As someone in the field of religious studies, I'm often amazed at how theological discussions spring up in the strangest places, like beautiful nipples suddenly hardening in a grocery checkout line.
Yes... that's how this discussion makes me feel.
Pardon me, now, while I fondle myself.
Kevin
Posted by: Kevin Kim at May 22, 2005 05:38 AM (1PcL3)
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You might try hanging out at the freezer aisle, if that kind of thing turns you on.
; -)
Posted by: annika at May 22, 2005 07:47 AM (YARSC)
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I'll stand by my point that Jesus made mistakes. For Christsakes, He had to choose twelve disciples to spread the Gospel, and one of them not only turned out to be a dud, but an enemy. And consider what we know about Him as a teenager - NOTHING. He surely made a few mistakes then as well, but unfortunately none of us will ever know because there is no historical record of the most important teenage being ever to have visited this planet. I grieve about the untold numbers of innocent women who died in agony, which found justification in Biblical quotes on witches as well as the highest authorities on the moral teaching of Jesus at the time. That was Hell then. Was Jesus himself culpable in any way? Possible.
Posted by: d-rod at May 22, 2005 08:43 AM (JWdx+)
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A,
Yeah, I can imagine hanging in the frozen food aisle all day. Kevin Dynamite.
With my luck, my own nipples would be blue and ready to fall off before I saw a chick with headlights.
South Korea, of course, is the WORST country for nipple-age. Women here don't show much skin and are only beginning to discover body-hugging clothing. And you can forget about ever seeing a braless woman. Such a creature exists only in Korean folklore. Alas.
On the bright side, it does mean that any little exposure of skin becomes something of a major event for starved senses calibrated to Western standards. I'm always happy to see a bare midriff, for example... and then there's Miss Panties, about whom I blogged.
Kevin
Dirty Old man
Posted by: Kevin Kim at May 22, 2005 10:06 AM (1PcL3)
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whoa -- stumbled on this site by accident.
what the hell is happening to people these days?
annika - lighten up. i think even you would admit that anyone who thinks they're better than everyone else has, er, a problem. no?
Posted by: remotedevice at May 22, 2005 12:34 PM (ZME2x)
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"...anyone who thinks they're better than everyone else has, er, a problem. no?"
Only if they're wrong.
Posted by: Dave J at May 22, 2005 09:05 PM (CYpG7)
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No. i would not admit that.
Posted by: annika at May 22, 2005 09:56 PM (VyMzn)
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Remote,
I think the point was that the Stranger From a Strange Land who went abroad and insulted the natives was her... Talk about putting your foot in it. Nobody needs that crap from a hypocrite, especially not at their college graduation.
Posted by: Mark at May 23, 2005 04:36 AM (oQofX)
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Mark,
She's an American. If certain Republicans are salivating at the idea of Ahnold being *President of the United States* after 30 or so years is it really out of bounds for an American citizen who has been here 35 years to as recent graduates not to be jackasses when they go to foreign countries?
Posted by: Preston at May 23, 2005 05:56 AM (wkfsI)
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It's the anti-American assumptions that drive it all "preston". she's not asking us "gee be nice when you travel" (as if college grads are so stupid not to perhaps already grasp this) she's saying be humble because your country sucks and everyone else thinks so. but whatever, that has been made abundantly clear, you still disagree. So as these comments have ranged from middle fingers to Coke to Christ, I shall hopefully end this thread thusly: if you disagree with me, you're a nazi.
Posted by: scof at May 23, 2005 11:10 AM (7z8ua)
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I don't see how the speech was inspirational at a commencement. Provocative? Fuck yeah! Inspirational? Highly suspect!
My .02 cents

Although this country's history is replete with arrogance on a multitude of issues, there *MUST* be a reason why people flock to our shores, ostensibly for a better life, for better opportunities, et al.
And if we're going to spiral out of control about "Superpowers," anyone here jazzed about "The Fabulous Four," due out in theaters soon?
Posted by: NuggetMaven at May 23, 2005 12:30 PM (DP5IG)
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PS: oh G-d, someone just used the n-to the a-to the z-to the i word. Good use of hyperbole!
Posted by: NuggetMaven at May 23, 2005 12:31 PM (DP5IG)
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I think you have said something very important in this,"I believe in American exceptionalism." I really do think that is something that many do not want to forgive us. It offends many to see American Individualism celebrated.
Yet, we know it makes us what we are, and has supported the ideals of freedom and progress.
Posted by: ilona at May 23, 2005 12:43 PM (hiW10)
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Ok- if you want to argue that her warning against mocking the plumbing in Third World countries was a critique of US foreign policy: was the strategy implemented after WWII of maintaining strategic alliances to contain and defeat communism worth scrapping? Was it unsuccessful? Did it undermine 'who we are'?
Nugget: "there *MUST* be a reason why people flock to our shores"
Yeah, I'm surprised that so many people have difficulty distinguishing US foreign policy and domesestic freedom. Clearly the US has _sometimes_ been a force for democracy and freedom worldwide and _sometimes_ it has been a force for oppression: it depends what suits our national interest- or more typically economic interests.
Like Athens and Great Britain before us we have democracy on our shores yet an agressive foreign policy that does not always adhere to our democratic ideals. For Ms. Nooyi to state the obvious does not mean she doesn't love her country, fer crying out loud.
Posted by: Preston at May 23, 2005 01:50 PM (wkfsI)
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Speaking of oppression... I'm amused at our history. The Puritans came here for religious freedom, however, they only supported religious freedom as it related to the Puritans. The Native Americans, or the Anglicans, Huguenots, and all the other groups that followed immediately? Yer on yer own. Oppressive? Darn tootin'.
The United States, much like a single human being, is made up of many different components. If we were to all dwell upon one or two aspects of it (either human or the US, take your pick), and dwell ONLY on those two aspects of it (say for argument's sake oppression/slavery and colonization/globalization), we would essentially be throwing the baby out with the bathwater to discount every other positive thing which makes up these United States.
Posted by: NuggetMaven at May 23, 2005 03:15 PM (DP5IG)
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Annika,
Nice ring you got there. Hehe.
Posted by: Mark Nicodemo at May 23, 2005 05:51 PM (Vg0tt)
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Like Athens and Great Britain before us we have democracy on our shores...
C'mon, Preston! GB had a monarchy when we kicked their rear, and Athens was some freaky kinda precursor to democracy, using a lottery to determine who got to help make decisions.
Posted by: Victor at May 24, 2005 01:29 PM (Sx8zO)
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It's not good enough for us to be democratic- we have to have invented it now?
Posted by: Preston at May 24, 2005 02:46 PM (wkfsI)
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My name is annika 2 that is sooooooooooooo kool!!!
when is ur b-day?
Posted by: Annika Schick at May 29, 2005 03:46 PM (ywZa8)
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I think someone is confusing secularism for democracy.
Believe it or not, this is a secularist country--despite what Dubya and his theocrat thugs want us (middle of the road-to-liberals) to believe.
Posted by: NuggetMaven at June 02, 2005 12:31 PM (DP5IG)
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Wow, your a moron! You do know that song is a parody of bushies cronies? Dumb dumb
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May 18, 2005
Pet Peeve
If i hear someone use the phrase "up-or-down-vote" one more time, i think i'm going to scream. Is there any other
kind of vote?
[Well, i guess in England it's a left or right vote. But still...]
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I guess they're not punching chads. Or you could maybe have a
right/wrong vote - as in
you're with us (right) or
you're against us (wrong).
Posted by: d-rod at May 18, 2005 10:46 AM (CSRmO)
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...as distinguished from a committee vote that only sends it to the next step in the process.
My understanding.
Posted by: Preston at May 18, 2005 03:04 PM (wkfsI)
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of course that committee vote is an up or down vote, because there is no other kind, its the definition of vote.
Posted by: Scof at May 18, 2005 05:54 PM (x8hF4)
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Up or down, as opposed to procedural strategies, filibusters, threatened filibusters, holds, blue-slips, motions to delay votes, tabling motions, motions suggesting lack of quorum (which require long, tedious roll-call votes, and about a hundred other kinds of parlimentary maneuvers used by an aggressive minority to forstall the inevedible use of the electoral process (we call them "elections") to determine the course of the county.
We just had an election where the President and Vice President were elected by a solid majority of the country.
There were five Senators added to the already 50 seats held by the Republicans widening the majority to a place where this could be considered.
There is now an eleven (11) seat majority (one Independent organizes with the Democratic minority)which narrows the gap to ten (10).
The people have spoken; the Democrats just can't hear it very well.
After 40 years of running the Senate and the House, they have lost both and are now having difficulty in realizing that they are the permanent minority, with very little chance of resuming the majority in the forseeable future.
This is hard to take by guys like Kennedy and Leahy who were there during the heyday and contributed more than their share to the present demise of the Democratic former majority.
Just look at who the leaders are: Harry Reid (Dr. No) Nancy Pelosi (she could scare anyone), Ted Kennedy (head lifeguard), Leahy (forget what I did, do it my way now).
Is it any wonder they are whining about losing everything?
When we were in this position, the Republicans elected a maverick named Newt Gingrich who just threw hand grenades and went out and signed "The Contract with America". Trent Lott and Bob Dole went out and campaigned across America for a Senate that would follow Reagan and Bush.
Maybe the Democrats need to consider changing their "leadership".
This thing is headed to the vote. There is nothing the Democrats can do but stall and hope that some Republican Senators will get cold feet.
Specter is clearly conflicted, but he will stay with Frist, or lose his Chair of Judiciary. McCain, Snow, Collins and Chafee will vote with the Democrats, but we will stil have 51. If one more defects, Cheney is ready to vote.
This ship has sailed. All that is left is the posturing for the next election.
Oh, and the Supreme Court. That's the next installment, in case no one knew.
Posted by: shelly at May 19, 2005 07:11 AM (pO1tP)
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Can you do one of those cool B-movie celluloid screams?
Posted by: Mike Jericho at May 19, 2005 07:22 AM (HzmDH)
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With me it's that whole "fairness" thing. Only our feminized culture could buy the illogic of such an argument.
Posted by: Casca at May 19, 2005 07:39 AM (qBTBH)
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Politics 208.10:
Durbin: We'll trade you four pawns for two queens.
McConnell: Thanks, but no thanks. We'll keep the queens and take the pawns later.
The Democrats have picked this fight; looks like the Republcans are about to finish it.
Stay tuned...
Posted by: shelly at May 19, 2005 08:46 AM (pO1tP)
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Shelly: It is the Senate's Constitutional obligation to provide 'advice and consent'. It is doing so. There is nothing in the Constitution about the number of votes required to confirm a nomination. So the Democrats are using the rules of the Senate [just as the Republicans did 5 years ago] to prevent the steamrolling of the President's nominees.
How's that for 'fair'?
Posted by: Preston at May 19, 2005 01:56 PM (wkfsI)
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"Fair"? "Fair"? The only "Fair" I know is in Pomona. Maybe one in New York in 1928.
Despite the Democratic claims to the contrary, there have been no filibusters of judicial candidates prior to the last congress. The unwritten rule of the Senate prohibiting judical candidate filibusters, once the nomination got to the floor, has been honored for over 200 years.
The example they use, Abe Fortas, was a longer debate, and when the Democrats sought cloture, they had but 45 votes. The Republicans said they were ready to go to a vote, and Fortas asked Johnson to pull the nomination to escape the stigma of a negative vote.
When the Democrats broke the rule agaisnt filibustering judges, they knew this was coming. They ran the play figuring that they could peel off six Republicans, and now are writhing in the consequences.
This is a vote they cannot win on the floor, only perhaps in the press. I think they are losing there as well, but it too early to tell.
Stay tuned; this is great theatre...
Posted by: shelly at May 19, 2005 05:19 PM (ywZa8)
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It seems now, on Saturday, that the dye may be cast.
There are both Democrats and Republicans in the center trying to find the solution that will work for both.
The solution seems simple, just agree to go back to the unwritten rule of no Judicial Filibustering. But the flamethrowers and grenade throwere are chafing under this policy. After all, it is all they have left of their dignity and power.
Our Senator, Barbara Boxer (what a piece of work) has seen this go from Majority to a permanent Minority for the Democrats and now no President for eight years to boot.
All she has left is "holds" (she is trying one on Bolton) and threatened filibusters. Without that power, she is reduced to begging for crumbs.
Good.
I think that the Democrats need to back down; all it takes is six to say they'll vote for cloture after "X" hours of debate.
If that doesn't happen, the arm twisting is over on the Republican side; Frist would never have done this without the votes. The Senate will change forever.
I think that Reid will blink. Frist won't. If he does, his Presidential aspirations are over.
Speaking of Presidential aspirations, anybody heard from Hillary? Has she taken the floor on this issue?
Posted by: shelly at May 21, 2005 04:06 AM (pO1tP)
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she's too busy eating babies to comment...
...and i liked your analysis, for what its worth (coming from someone who jokes that hillary eats babies)
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May 16, 2005
L.A. Mayor's Race
i don't live in L.A. anymore (though i hope to return after i graduate), but i'm apparently still on the voter list down there. Which is why i've received an email from none other than the next mayor of Los Angeles, Antonio Villaraigosa.
i've never received an email from a major politician before, it's kind of exciting. Here is what Tony (if i may call him that) wrote to me.
Dear Annika,
I love Los Angeles. It has already given me so much -- a strong education, a loving family, a lifelong career in public service.
That's why I have set out an ambitious new vision for LA, because I believe the Mayor must have a plan for the future. I want to build more schools for our children and reduce classroom sizes. I want to make Los Angeles safer and greener. I want to create better jobs for our workers, provide better health care and more affordable housing for our families, and develop a 21st Century transportation system for all of us.
I know this has been a tough and negative campaign, but I pledge on my first day in office to begin to bring our city together for real, positive change.
Los Angeles deserves a better Mayor. Someone with big dreams, bold ideas, and an ambitious vision for the future -- a strong leader with a proven record of accomplishment who will roll up his sleeves and work hard to fix our city's problems, large and small.
As Mayor, I pledge to work with you and all of our neighbors to build a better Los Angeles. But I need your help to do it.
I ask your vote on Tuesday, May 17th!
To make our city a better place, we must restore the people's trust in Los Angeles city government. After four long years of waste, fraud, and scandal, I am committed to cleaning house at City Hall and putting an end to the 'pay-to-play' system under Jim Hahn. Because let's be clear: Honesty and ethics at City Hall start at the top, with the Mayor.
I am proud to have received the endorsements of [blah blah blah...].
But today, I am asking you for the most important endorsement of all: your vote.
If you agree that we can and must do better in Los Angeles, I ask for your vote on Tuesday.
It's time to get Los Angeles back on the right track. And I am committed to doing just that. I pledge to you that I will work to bring all residents of our city together and solve the tough problems we face.
But I can't do it alone. I'm going to need your help, along with hundreds of thousands of our friends and neighbors, to get the job done. And it all starts on Election Day.
I look forward to working with you to build a better Los Angeles!
Sincerely,
Antonio Villaraigosa
i confess that i haven't followed the mayoral election in our beloved 2nd largest city very closely, mainly because i won't be voting in it. Something about a scandal and that the current mayor sucks eggs. Everybody piling on the Villaraigosa bandwagon. Whatever.
i hope he'll be a good mayor. L.A. has big big problems challenges, but it is a great town. i notice that transportation is at the end of the list in paragraph three, almost like it was an afterthought. To my mind, light rail should be the priority for the next mayor. Incredibly, nowhere in the email was there any mention of illegal immigration, a subject that seems to be on everybody's lips these days. Progress on that issue would take care of half the other problems he mentioned in that second paragraph.
Anyways, i hope the coronation goes well.
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Nice to hear support for public transportation from the right side of the aisle... It's clear that LA will grind to a halt one day if they don't get on the bandwagon. (I'm not advocating bandwagons as public transportation though...)
Posted by: Preston at May 16, 2005 07:04 PM (+jnzE)
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Unfortunately, it's often the left that's holding up a sensible light rail solution in L.A. The "bus-rider's union??!" environmentalists, slow growth people, plaintiff's lawyers, and NIMBYs.
Posted by: annika at May 16, 2005 07:12 PM (Sq19q)
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Hell if you got rid of the illegals, the trans problem would solve itself.
I think this is priceless, in a couple months California's three biggest cities will all have fucktards as Mayors. V in LA, that simpering asshole in SF, and the old burnout hippy union whore Donnay Frye in SD. I'm comforted by the knowledge that the electorate of these cities did NOT vote for dubyah.
Posted by: Casca at May 16, 2005 09:51 PM (qBTBH)
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I disagree - L.A.'s problems won't be solved by light rail or any oter mass transit program. The problem with L.A. (& to varying degrees the rest of the state & country) are ideaological not material. Look at any of those "problems" the mayoral candidate seeks to address & then think of a non govcernmental solution for them. Now not all are best served by the private sector, but that's the problem - everyone thinks government is a problem solver. In general government is a problem creator.
We could debate the merits of any public transportation system or this specific one but that'd just be adressing a symptom, not the problem. Ditto with everythign else except the governmental corruption thing. & let's be honest - in the closest thing to a welfare state we have in this country there's not going to be an end to corruption.
BTW, if he wants to make L.A. safer then I assume he's going to be rolling back some of the assinine gun control laws they have there & then push for cutting back the state level gun control?
Anyway, the problem is th emindset of the people. Till that cna be adressed then anything else will only be a temporary fix. & no place has that problem completely under control, but L.A. & Cali seem to be worse off than the rest of the nation (well with certain exceptions, such as D.C., Chicago, NY, Mass. etc...)
Posted by: publicola at May 17, 2005 01:15 AM (DQj8i)
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publicola:
"We could debate the merits of any public transportation system or this specific one but that'd just be adressing a symptom, not the problem."
What's the problem?
annika:
That's interesting. But I wouldn't classify NIMBY's as liberal.
I don't know any thing about the Bus Rider's Union- why would they slow down mass transit?
Posted by: Preston at May 17, 2005 07:33 AM (wkfsI)
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"fucktards"?????
merriam-webster comes up empty..............
don't sugar coat it Casca....tell us what you really think.
Posted by: louielouie at May 17, 2005 09:59 AM (i7mWl)
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Hell if you think he'll do anything that will in any way shape or form discourage illegal immigration you are nuts. If anything he will do everything he can to make LA the most illegal immigrant friendly town in the US!
Posted by: Skippy at May 17, 2005 11:04 AM (v3xUb)
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that's what i'm afraid of
Posted by: annika at May 17, 2005 09:27 PM (oCGrt)
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I haven't really followed the election in Los Angeles - heck, I've barely followed the mayoral election in Ontario. In fact, I'm writing this at 10:33 in the evening; polls presumably closed 2 1/2 hours ago, and I haven't made an effort to see who actually won. I'll do my homework in a moment.
I would think that both candidates would try to avoid mentioning illegal immigration at all costs. Candidates try to be all things to all people, and any mention of illegal immigration, pro or con, is bound to anger somebody.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at May 17, 2005 10:34 PM (ukBYg)
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OK, I did my homework. From the
Daily Breeze:
Updated, 10:28 p.m. Bruising runoff between two Democrats is a rematch of the 2001 election, in which Hahn rallied to win....
Los Angeles Mayor James Hahn and Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa were locked in a close race tonight as the incumbent struggled to hold onto his job and his opponent sought to become the city's first Hispanic mayor since the 19th century.
With 228 of 1,599 precincts reporting, along with about 120,000 absentee ballots, Villaraigosa had a lead of 56 to 44 percent.
Villaraigosa had 90,660 votes, compared to Hahn's 72,024.
Here's a
live link to city election results.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at May 17, 2005 10:38 PM (ukBYg)
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Close race? Did that fool at the Breeze say "close race"?
A "close race" is when it is 50.2 to 49.8%.
The numbers I am seeing are like 58.6 to 41.4%.
Where I come from, that's an "old fashioned whupping".
So much for Jimmy Hahn and his sleazy, anti-hispanic buzzword campaign. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
And so much for Bill Carrick and Kam Kuwata and Bill Wardlaw and their sleazy, down and dirty mudlinging campaigns.
In this one, the best man won...
As my grandson says "Antonio rules; Jummy drools".
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May 15, 2005
Newsweek Death Toll Continues To Rise
CNN has a new partner in the ranks of journalistic infamy. Both news organizations have blood on their hands.
When i heard about this story, the first thing i thought was "even if it's true, why on earth would they publish that story?"
i admit that's an untenable position to take. Freedom of the press and all that rot. But true or not, the story was going to cost lives. Newsweek had to know that. Did that fact present even a minor speed bump to their rush to embarrass the hated United States?
Apparently not, since Newsweek has now apologized for publishing a lie.
Newsweek magazine on Sunday said it may have erred in a May 9 report that said U.S. interrogators desecrated the Koran at Guantanamo Bay, and apologized to victims of deadly violence sparked by the article.
The weekly news magazine said in its May 23 edition that the original source of the allegation was not sure where he saw the assertion that at least one copy of the Koran was flushed down a toilet in an attempt to get detainees to talk.
'We regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst,' Editor Mark Whitaker wrote in the magazine's latest issue, due to appear on U.S. newsstands on Monday.
The report has sparked angry and violent protests across the Muslim world from Afghanistan, where 16 were killed and more than 100 injured, to Pakistan to Indonesia to Gaza.
On Sunday, Afghan Muslim clerics threatened to call for a holy war against the United States in three days unless it handed over the interrogators in question.
And yet people still criticize Fox News.
Biased journalism is not just annoying, not just wrong, not just unethical, sometimes it gets people killed.
Update: i shouldn't have complimented Fox News. Even they're sloppy. Reporting on the story this afternoon, Chris Wallace said that Newsweek's source had said he saw the alleged flushing incident, but then backed away from his story. Not true. The source actually told Newsweek's Michael Isakoff that the incident would be mentioned in an upcoming written report by military investigators. The source never saw any incident. He only saw a reference to an allegation of an incident in a report investigating a bunch of alleged incidents. As it turned out, the incident didn't make it into the final report. No matter, Newsweek went ahead with the story. Somewhere, Mary Mapes is probably smiling.
[cross-posted at A Western Heart]
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Excellent post! I have e-mailed the smiling amateur Whitaker at whitaker@newsweek.com. I hope the rest of the blogosphere does the same.
The text of my note to Whitaker is below:
Mr. Whitaker:
Your recent apology regarding the Koran and subsequent violence rings very hollow. Even if the story about desecration of Korans was completely true, only an amatuer journalist would not be able to predict what Muslim extremists would do upon hearing the story. They certainly would not take pains to verify its veracity. Ironically, Newsweek did not either.
You, Mr. Whitaker, Newsweek, and the liberal media, have the blood of 16 people and 100 injured on your hands. In a constant quest to make American soldiers look like monsters, you and your news organization have behaved like starving vultures causing the deaths of innocent people.
Posted by: Mark at May 15, 2005 12:55 PM (Vg0tt)
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CORRECTION: His e-mail is MARK.WHITAKER@newsweek.com
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7857154/site/newsweek
Sorry.
Posted by: Mark at May 15, 2005 01:06 PM (Vg0tt)
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Little to be said, if anything, we've aired on the side of being humane. This isn't a very effective way to collect humint. I hope someone out there has the stones to do something productive. We're going to end up paying for all of this pussyfooting.
Posted by: Casca at May 15, 2005 01:42 PM (qBTBH)
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If the shoe were on the other foot and someone from the right had made a false allegation that had similar implications, the MSM would be interviewing the families of the deceased, calling for the head of the dissimulator, and declaring the war lost.
But it's Newsweek. Sounds like someone's going to get a promotion. Or maybe a book deal.
Posted by: Trevor at May 15, 2005 03:59 PM (COhUH)
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The Arab world deserves to be outraged by this story....I believe in my heart it is true...the garbage that interrogators do in Guantanamo Bay is horrifying....yet BUSH BABY says the war against terror is on course....maybe it is in Texas BUSH BABY
Posted by: John at May 16, 2005 12:25 AM (yfqUn)
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John,
Which news organization do you work for? You've got ethics, integrity, and rules of evidence down pat.
Posted by: John at May 16, 2005 08:43 AM (oQofX)
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I acknowledge the importance of human emotion, but relying on it while risking the safety and lives of US soldiers and innocent civilians is obscene.
I guess if you "believe it in your heart," it must be true; it cannot be false.
Make no mistake: NEWSWEEK RAN THIS STORY TO MAKE BUSH AND THE US MILITARY LOOK BAD. Consequences and truth be damned.
Posted by: Mark at May 16, 2005 03:17 PM (Vg0tt)
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Mark: don't you think they ran the story because breaking stories is how they sell magazines?
Posted by: Preston at May 16, 2005 03:25 PM (wkfsI)
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Preston:
Using this logic, then tabloid journalism should be the standard. That is, if selling magazines is all that counts, then publish anything, at anytime.
Newsweek surely cares about the bottom line, but running stories like this can always back fire on them too. (And it did, but just not the way Newsweek hoped for: Sixteen dead, hundreds injured, and horrible P.R. for the US and our military. Heads should ROLL over this.)
Posted by: Mark at May 17, 2005 12:23 PM (Hk4wN)
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Mark Whitaker should be deported case closed.
If you do not posess the common sense to realize that we are at war and printing sensitive issues could fuel the enemy and put our soldiers in harms way than you are committing treason. Lets give the widows of the slain soldiers baseball bats and limo them to the Newsweek building for some practice swings on Whitaker's face.
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Just Curious
i'm perplexed.
How can Voinovich justify his opposition to Bolton by saying Bolton lacks "common decency" on the one hand -- then say he's met Bolton, likes Bolton, and that he believes Bolton is a "decent" man?
Just curious.
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in what regard are you perplexed, annie?
the guy has shit for brains.
Posted by: louielouie at May 12, 2005 12:39 PM (i7mWl)
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Ahh to be a politician. Wish I could talk out of my ass and say two different things and not get fired!
Posted by: Joe From Jersey at May 12, 2005 01:28 PM (dO3Ek)
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Voinovich is a joke - an embarrassment to Ohio.
This is one of two things:
1) The politician trick(perfected by Clinton) of agreeing with both sides of an issue, or
2) An addiction to the spotlight - at the cost of principles.
Voinovich is a laughingstock.
Posted by: gcotharn at May 12, 2005 02:44 PM (OxYc+)
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Voinovich is this year's Jim Jeffords... an inconsequential politician who figured out a way to make it look like he can make a difference.
Posted by: ken at May 12, 2005 03:45 PM (xD5ND)
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Well, as certainly the only reader of this blog who has spent time with the Senator, I'll say this. I was thinking about his motivations during my hour long bike ride today. Voino is a master of triangulation, downstate R's with northeastern conservative union thug D's are his formula in OH. He's unbeatable in a general, and damned hard to knock out in a primary. His ambition knows no bounds, and this is the beginning of his play for '08. This is his only shot, and he knows it. He's trying to out-McCain, McCain. The tricky thing is that he IS an honest to goodness social conservative... I think. Fiscally, he spent like a drunken sailor as Gov. Thank God Senators have a shitty trackrecord running for Prez.
Posted by: Casca at May 12, 2005 08:08 PM (qBTBH)
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Him running for prez? I won't vote for anybody with no backbone, This list includes Bush I (second term), Pataki... He should just forget being president and try being a man.
Posted by: Mark at May 13, 2005 05:43 AM (nQAo8)
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Old trick--insult man's principles, but not the man. Voinovich is a sloppy politician--most guys are careful not to use the same word when you use its opposite.
Reminds me of the company that fired their lawyer because the lawyer explained he was "too busy" to make sure he was spelling the client's name correctly.
Posted by: Victor at May 13, 2005 09:08 AM (L3qPK)
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George is an old political whore, and he knows who his customers are. Amongst the Bob Dole wing of the party, I'm sure that he's a darling.
Posted by: Casca at May 13, 2005 01:59 PM (qBTBH)
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Social conservative and fiscal liberal?! Worst of both worlds. Voinovich can take that "triangle-a-tion" right up the backside.
Posted by: gcotharn at May 14, 2005 11:03 AM (3Bn47)
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Well, at least he showed his opportunistic demogogue bona fides by correcting himself on two different occassions unlike the moonbat Dan Blather.
"Oh, I think you can lie about any of a number of things and still be an honest man."
Posted by: Tuning Spork at May 14, 2005 02:52 PM (CjwZm)
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Things happen when you come up against a sitting President and try to match wills with him. Especially one of your party.
One has to assume that Karl Rove and George had a "come to Jesus" conversation, and George came back just enough to allow him to keep some dignity and still let this go forward.
He can vote against him on the florr, they don't care. Bush was not about to take a loss from a Senator standing for re-election.
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know what Karl said.
Boy Genius does not play softball.
Posted by: shelly at May 14, 2005 09:17 PM (pO1tP)
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This senator is keeping America free
Rove's come to Jesus meetings with BUSH BABY scare the hell out of me...the BUSH BABY"s family and friends are destroying America as we know it.....Bill Frist for Anti-Christ in '08!
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Doug TenNapel analogizes a
recent VDH column about the War on Terror with the current Senate filibuster fight.
Check it out. i think it's pretty brilliant.
And was that Doug's voice i heard on Friday's Hugh Hewitt show? If so, Doug, why didn't you use that opportunity to plug my blog? i thought we were friends.
Note to anyone calling any talk radio show in the future: plug my blog!
More: Re: the filibuster fight, i think the best pithy argument i've heard to date came from Zell Miller last night on Hannity and Colmes. i can't remember his exact words, so i'll re-state the argument in my own.
Question: How many votes does it take to confirm a judicial nominee in the Senate? Answer fifty-one.
Question: How many votes does it take to defeat a judicial nominee in the Senate? Answer forty-one.
Does that make any sense at all?
If you ask me, the filibuster rule is stupid and should be done away with in toto.
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Be careful of what you wish for- I think it's fair to say that the filibuster has historically more frequently been a tool of conservatives than of liberals.
Posted by: Preston at April 23, 2005 01:09 PM (pm/Ll)
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??? When?
The R's don't have the stones to pull the trigger when they HAVE the votes.
The last major use I can remember is Dixiecrat Senators, dat be u Head Kleagal Bird, blocking equal rights legislation in the 1960's. Before that, let's see, keeping the world safe for slave holders?
Posted by: Casca at April 23, 2005 05:07 PM (cdv3B)
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Uh yeah, the Civil Rights bills and the nomination of Abe Fortas appointment to Supreme Court , opposition to Wilson' s war preparations and the ban on semi-automatic weapons at gun shows come to mind.
You'd think if it were a matter of principle the two parties could agree to an end of the filibuster in say 2008 or later- when the beneficiaries of such a change would be unknown. But the everchanging 'blue slip' rules and the disintegrating ethics process in the House suggests that just maybe this isn't a matter of principle but simply a naked power grab.
Posted by: Preston at April 23, 2005 08:07 PM (pm/Ll)
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I'm hoping that they haven't waited too long.
This is about the Supreme Court, you know. Delay works in the favor of the Dem's.
The longer they can put these CA votes off, the better it is for them.
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Shelly: What do you mean?
Annika:
What did Zell Miller say about the process of never allowing the nominees to leave the committee? Is it fair for 10 Senators to be able to vote down a nominee? Should we dismantle the Judiciary Committee?
Posted by: Preston at April 24, 2005 05:47 AM (pm/Ll)
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Get a grip Preston. It is all about power, and fair is where you buy cotton candy. Principle? Grow up.
BTW, you make the argument that the F-bomb has disproportionately helped R's, then cling to examples that illustrate the opposite, or are you confused about who is a liberal/conservative?
Posted by: Casca at April 24, 2005 07:22 AM (cdv3B)
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My, my- calm, reasoned argument!
Can we put that quote on the door of the RNC headquarters: "Principle? Grow up." It certainly makes the hypocrisies of the Republican Party make sense.
Actually, I made the case that the filibuster has been used to support _conservative_ causes. You know as well as I that conservativism was well entrenched within the Democratic party before the ideological polarization after Nixon's 'Southern Strategy'. It is irrelevant to the current filibuster debate that Byrd was a segregationist- he has repeatedly renounced his earlier position as a mistake and now chooses to caucus with the party that 90% of African Americans vote for. To pretend that Strom Thurmond- by joining the 'Party of Lincoln' somehow was absolved of the same stain is to have an interesting view of the history of American political parties.
Posted by: Preston at April 24, 2005 07:44 AM (pm/Ll)
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I have to return to this...
If you think it is simply about power not principle- why on earth are you interested in politics? Unless you are writing from your K Street office that power is pretty unlikely to headed your way.
In reality the power is used by Tom DeLay to help Jack Abramoff and then for Abramoff to help DeLay. This is satisfactory to you? If so, I have to assume you were not one of those so-called 'morals' voters.
I also have to assume that you believe that the whole 'Contract with America' focus on Congressional ethics was just something concocted for the sheeple. You might also be comfortable with the notion that the Whitewater investigation was simply a pretext to engage in a permanent taxpayer funded campaign against the President.
It's all about the power after all... Now, if we could just get Stalin to run for President in 2008... He know how to keep 'em in line.
Posted by: Preston at April 24, 2005 08:55 AM (pm/Ll)
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the only time i ever saw anyone on capitol hill who was motivated by principle, i was watching a frank capra movie.
Anyways, no. Zell Miller didn't mention the use of committee votes to block a nominee. That could be abused too. But there's no filibuster in the committee rules, and they use a simple majority vote. Sounds fair to me. If a nominee makes it through committee, the Senate should be given a chance to debate and vote. The filibuster rule as it's currently written, doesn't allow either.
Posted by: annie at April 24, 2005 09:15 AM (dRptT)
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"Ma, ma, some Republican stole half my hog!
How do you know it was a Republican?
If it was a Democrat the whole thing'd be gone."
Actually, the power quote is on Howard Dean's door. Have you ever seen anyone dance so hard for the booboisie?
The roots of the Republican party are in abolition, and the roots of the Democrats in tyranny. That is why it took a bloody war, the greatest in our history, and a hundred years to pry the fingers of slavery from the throat of the South. Those fingers belonged to Democrats.
The entire philosophy of the D's today is one of power and hanging on to it. It is the unholy alliance of union thugs, liberal theocrats, and government tit-suckers that keeps them alive. It is a flawed strategy. Decentralization of information creates a more powerful citizenry, and that is why the Republicans are ascendant.
You sir are fucked. I recommend reconsidering your shiboleths should you desire any happiness and peace in life.
Posted by: Casca at April 24, 2005 10:59 AM (cdv3B)
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Wow, you really presume to know what makes me happy? Maybe it's just listening to your potty mouth...
Yeah, the Democrats are the party of tyranny- that was exactly what Jefferson was all about, if you squint your eyes really hard. There's no question that you can lay the blame of Jim Crow at the feet of the Democratic Party. However, it's obscenely intellectually dishonest to ignore that the _people_ responsible for Jim Crow eventually found their ways to the Republican Party.
I don't know what booboisie means. I'm not one of the kool kids but I'm willing to listen if you're patient.
In my understanding, the philosophy of the Democratic Party is to provide for the shared sacrifice and security of every member of society understanding that the market is the most efficient generator of wealth yet government is often required to fill in gaps.
I guess we've got a lot to learn from Tom DeLay and his cronies about how the world really is.
Posted by: Preston at April 24, 2005 11:58 AM (pm/Ll)
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Annie:
The filibuster debate seems to ignore the blue slip rules which suddenly grew expansively when the Republicans took the Senate in 1994 and then suddenly grew less permissive when George Bush won in 2000.
To pretend that the Democrats are pioneering legislative tactics to thwart extreme judicial nominees is hogwash.
I suppose anyone is free to have an ultimately cynical view of politics- but what is the motivation of individuals to be involved if they understand that the 'party of fiscal responsibility' is liable to run up 2 trillion dollars in debt if it is suddenly politically advantageous?
That's not a rhetorical question.
Posted by: Preston at April 24, 2005 12:05 PM (pm/Ll)
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Well that's a little off the subject, but i'm not happy about the spending spree either.
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Ok- then how about the 'party of judicial restraint' and the 'party of state's rights' crafting late-night legislation in order to supercede the rulings of the Florida State Courts.
Come to think of it... I guess you're right: it is about power, not principle.
Posted by: Preston at April 24, 2005 12:23 PM (pm/Ll)
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Preston, your understanding of reality is perverted. It takes a certain lack of logic to reach a conclusion that is 180 out from reality.
"it's obscenely intellectually dishonest to ignore that the _people_ responsible for Jim Crow eventually found their ways to the Republican Party."
If so, perhaps after recanting. 100 years of institutionalized Southern racism supported by the foundation of the D's, and now they're all Replublicans eh? To the extent this is true, and I don't think it is, I'd say that the social order has acheived balance in the past fifty years, since that racist Eisenhower sent the 101st to Little Rock.
Segregation was made illegal in the last half of the 20th century, so taken away from the D's as a populist issue in the South. Once that happened, they had to use other issues popular in the South like national defense, where they couldn't win.
The further we move from institutionalized racism, the more diminished the role of Democrats in the South. Coinkydink? I don't think so.
Posted by: Casca at April 24, 2005 12:45 PM (cdv3B)
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Do you really believe what you're saying?
Of course Eisenhower wasn't a racist. Strom Thurmond leaving the Democratic Party in 1948 in protest of its pro-civil rights platform marked the first break of the segregationists and the Democratic Party. Lyndon Johnson's shepherding of the 1957 and 1964 Civil Rights act as well as the 1965 Voting Rights Act marked the final straw for this relationship. Richard Nixon in 1968 capitalized on this with his 'Southern Strategy' that winked to the South and assured them he did not intend to push additional Civil Rights legislation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
If you're honestly claiming that the Democratic Party is the party of institutionalized racism then you're also saying that 90% of black voters and every single African American Congressman is a dupe unable to tell which party holds their best interests at heart.
Who's to say if those Republicans 'recanted' their racist beliefs? I'm more inclined to think the 20 or so Southern Democratic Congressmen who switched since the 1960's found a home more suitable to their ideology than experiencing a mass conversion to the gospel of racial equality. But who knows- maybe it was the flouride in the water or something...
Segregation was made illegal but appeals to race are clearly still possible. The party more lenient to this type of politics will have a greater appeal to the racists holdouts. I'm not saying that everyone in the South is racist or this is the only reason for Republican dominance in the South but it is foolish to discount the role of racial politics in the dismantling of the 'Solid South'.
Posted by: Preston at April 24, 2005 01:15 PM (pm/Ll)
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Though, I don't really think you actually believe what you're proposing I'll leave with a final circumstantial evidence regarding the roots of the political shift of the South: a de-racialized Democratic Party or a de-racialized electorate.
Voters began voting for alternatives to the Democratic Party at the national level far before they began at the local level. This was because the national Democratic Party was ending its collusion with segregationists while local Democrats were largely free to continue these appeals.
By the 40's Truman allowed Civil Rights on his platform (and integrated the army: the result was the Dixiecrat rebellion in the 1948 Presidential election. However, Southern legislatures remained Democratic.
In the 60's Democrats led the passage of more Civil Rights acts. In 1968 the South retailiated by voting for Nixon and Wallace. But Southern legislatures remained Democratic.
In the 1980's Reagan made appeals to the South by beginning his campaign in Philadelphia Mississppi and pepper speeches with references to 'welfare queens'. He wins the South. But Southern legislatures remained Democratic.
This was able to happen because local Democrats were able to continue with racist appeals while their national counterparts were not. Even so, Republican Governors and Senators and Congressmen began having more success because of their ideological affinity on these issues.
I think it's clear that racial politics were important well into the latter half of the 20th century but national Democrats no longer won elections there.
Posted by: Preston at April 24, 2005 01:50 PM (pm/Ll)
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Eh, I've lost interest in your long-winded self-delusion. Blacks vote with the D's for several reasons, one being that like you they're prisoners of leftist groupthink to the extent those who vote with the D's think at all. For the most part, they live in rotten buroughs where votes are routinely stolen. Computerized voter registration will be the end of a lot of this, and is the federal law that is going to take another chunk out of the D vote stealing machine in the next cycle. Hahahaha, you're in for a looooong painful stretch.
Posted by: Casca at April 24, 2005 02:51 PM (cdv3B)
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My recollection of '68 was that Wallace picked up the red neck racist vote, and Nixon got the fuck-the-peacenik-liberal vote in the South. From reconstruction until '68 the racists were with the Democrats. In '72 they voted for Nixon because they weren't unpatriotic enough to vote for McGovern, few were. '76 they got to vote for a fellow cracker, and by '80 the entire nation was sick of limp wristed incompetence, ergo Reagan.
From that point on, it's pretty clear that an anti-black racist vote pretty much evaporated in America.
Posted by: Casca at April 24, 2005 05:32 PM (cdv3B)
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Wow- you must love the anonymity of the internet- though I'd love to be at a party where you attempted to talk to a liberal or an African American face to face with your rhetoric.
Unless you're a trust fund baby and no longer at a draftable age I don't see any stretch of Republican rule being any easier for you than for me. -oh, I remember it's about power not principle.
I'll see you at the Wal-Mart when we 'retire'...
Posted by: Preston at April 24, 2005 08:06 PM (pm/Ll)
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"From that point on, it's pretty clear that an anti-black racist vote pretty much evaporated in America."
Someone forgot to tell Lee Atwater and Pere Bush.
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Connect the dots dickhead... if you can.
Posted by: Casca at April 24, 2005 09:57 PM (cdv3B)
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Congratulations on your luck. Don't forget to pull up the ladder after you.
Posted by: Preston at April 25, 2005 04:04 AM (pm/Ll)
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from killrighty
maybe they should do away with the congressional record. or grow up.
Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA): “It is not the role of the Senate to obstruct the process and prevent numbers of highly qualified nominees from even being given the opportunity for a vote on the Senate floor.” (Sen. Barbara Boxer, Congressional Record, 5/14/97)
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA): “I urge the Republican leadership to take the steps necessary to allow the full Senate to vote up or down on these important nominations.” (Sen. Tom Harkin, Congressional Record, 9/11/00)
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA): “We owe it to Americans across the country to give these nominees a vote. If our Republican colleagues don’t like them, vote against them. But give them a vote.” (Sen. Ted Kennedy, Congressional Record, 2/3/9

Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA): “It is true that some Senators have voiced concerns about these nominations. But that should not prevent a roll call vote which gives every Senator the opportunity to vote ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ … Parties with cases, waiting to be heard by the federal courts deserve a decision by the Senate.” (Sen. Ted Kennedy, Congressional Record, 9/21/99)
Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV): “[W]e should have up-or-down votes in the committee and on the floor.” (CNN’s “Evans, Novak, Hunt & Shields,” 6/9/01)
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA): “It is our job to confirm these judges. If we don’t like them, we can vote against them.” (Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Congressional Record, 9/16/99)
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA): “Our institutional integrity requires an up-or-down vote.” (Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Congressional Record, 10/4/99)
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA): “[The filibuster process] is used … as blackmail for one Senator to get his or her way on something that they could not rightfully win through the normal processes.” (Sen. Tom Harkin, Congressional Record, 1/4/95)
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And the Republicans have quotes saying the opposite from when they were using the filibuster.
Like I mentioned earlier they need to agree to a policy and have it kick in several years so neither party can know for sure who it will benefit.
Posted by: Preston at April 25, 2005 03:19 PM (wkfsI)
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The Democrats are conveniently forgetting the effort by 19 Democrats in 1995 to kill the filibuster. The resolution was introduced by Joe Lieberman and Tom Harkin.
“…the filibuster rules are unconstitutional.”
“…the filibuster is nothing short of legislative piracy.”
“We cannot allow the filibuster to bring Congress to a grinding halt.”
” …So today I start a drive to do away with a dinosaur — the filibuster rule.”
It was defeated 76-19 in 1995. All 19 that supported it were Democrats, some with very familiar names. Like these:
Jeff Bingaman, Barbara Boxer, Russ Feingold, Tom Harkin, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Frank Lautenberg, Joe Lieberman, and Paul Sarbanes.
Posted by: louielouie at April 25, 2005 03:22 PM (i7mWl)
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...meaning that Republicans voted in _favor_ of the filibuster.
Personally, I could imaging getting rid of it or maybe dropping the number for cloture down to, say, 55- but only at a specified time in the future.
Isn't everybody a little of the shifting procedural rules engineered to favor the party in power?
Posted by: Preston at April 25, 2005 03:32 PM (wkfsI)
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...(though I understand that 'principle' is not a popular concept around here.)
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In Case You Missed This Story
[T]hat's the critical error the insurgents made. They thought they could keep the Marines' heads down. But he gets back up.
Hell yah.
Three important lessons for the would-be terrorist, from this story:
1. This is why we shoot when a vehicle doesn't stop.
2. Terrorist attacks are becoming fewer in number, but sometimes reflect more sophisticated planning.
3. Marines will still kill their ass dead.
Knocked down by that blast, with bricks and sandbags collapsing on top of him, [Lance Cpl. Joshua] Butler struggled to his feet only to hear a large diesel engine roar amid the clatter of gunfire. It was a red fire engine, carrying a second suicide bomber and passenger. Butler says both were wearing black turbans and robes, often worn by religious martyrs.
Amid the chaos of that first bomb blast, supported by gunfire from an estimated 30 dismounted insurgents, the fire engine passed largely undetected on a small road that leads from town directly past the camp wall, according a Marine report.
'I couldn't see him at first because of the smoke. It was extremely thick from the first explosion,' Butler says. When the fire engine cleared the smoke, it was much closer than the dump truck had been.
As the driver accelerated past the 'Welcome to Iraq' sign inside the camp's perimeter, Butler says he fired 100 rounds into the vehicle. The Marines later discovered the vehicle was equipped with 3-inch, blast-proof glass and the passengers were wearing Kevlar vests under their robes.
Pfc. Charles Young, 21, also of Altoona, Pa., hit the fire engine with a grenade launcher, slowing its progress and giving Butler time to recover. Without breaching the camp wall, the driver detonated the fire engine, sending debris flying up to 400 yards and knocking Marines from their bunks several hundred yards away. Butler, less than 50 yards away, again was knocked down by the blast, which partially destroyed the tower in which he was perched. After he crawled for cover, a third suicide bomber detonated outside the camp. That blast caused no damage or injuries. Sporadic fighting continued for several hours.
Meanwhile, Cpl. Anthony Fink of Columbus, Ohio, 21, fired a grenade launcher that the Marine unit says killed 11 insurgents. The Marines' 'React Squad' swiftly deployed against the remaining insurgents.
'We were able to get the momentum back,' Diorio says. He also says that Husaybah townspeople later reported 21 insurgents dead and 15 wounded. No Marines were seriously hurt.
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Being a Cali-girl, and a Berkley Bear, you wouldn't know that we grow these fellows by the bushel out in the midwest. Those with an adventurous red blooded spirit, go off and join the Marines. Playing football has a lot to do with it.
I think that it was General Holcomb who after WWII, when Truman was trying to disband the Marine Corps, went and testified before Congress, and closed debate when he said, "Our Corps has a history of long and storied traditions, of which the bended knee has never been one."
Posted by: Casca at April 18, 2005 10:07 PM (cdv3B)
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My bday is the same as that of the Corps...which is really nothing compared to the actual sacrifice shown by those young guys wearing the uniform.
Posted by: Scof at April 18, 2005 10:42 PM (ur/xf)
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Ooh-fuckin'-rah! Get some, Devil Dogs!
Semper Fi!
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April 11, 2005
Chewin' The Cud
i caught some of the John Bolton hearing today on CSPAN. i couldn't get over that brain trust we elected as our junior senator, Barbara Boxer. Of course her speechifying was ridiculous, that goes without saying. But when she wasn't on, Boxer seemed to be chewing continuously, like a fucking cow. Did anyone else notice this? She absolutely was not paying attention, and she kept looking around the room and working that cud, whatever it was. What an embarrassment to the State of California.
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Posted by: shelly at April 12, 2005 08:06 AM (6krEN)
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Well put. But take heart, you could live in Massachusetts, where things are so fucked up they find the ex-wife on Comm. Ave, drunk, lying on the sidewalk in the rain:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7334983/
I feel sorry for Joan, she was (back in the day) too smart and beautiful to be tied down to that carnival. She lacked Jackie's killer instinct to get the fuck out at the right time.
Posted by: Jason O. at April 12, 2005 09:52 AM (2CAKL)
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based on annika's brief discourse....
i logged onto c-span......
good ol' boy bidden was in a discussion with carl ford.
to paraphrase.....
never have so many been paid so much to do next to nothing about so very little .....
i am amazed/impressed that annika could watch that long.
i could not.
has not bidden previously publicly stated "he would give bolton a fair hearing prior to voting against him"?
talk about fair & balanced......
Posted by: louielouie at April 12, 2005 12:41 PM (i7mWl)
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I'm obviously a huge Boxer fan (less enthralled with DiFi,of course.) I have been for years, since she was a congresswoman in Marin County. Every four years, the right thinks she's vulnerable, and every time, she wins -- by increasingly large margins. She handled Jones by double-digits, and even carried some places that Bush won (San Bernadino County voted for Bush and Boxer, for example).
Like it or not, Californians dig her. (Hey, I had to take away one positive from the November debacle.)
Posted by: Hugo at April 12, 2005 02:25 PM (iH5Su)
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The Republicans can't mount a viable candidate for Senator. Arnold won't run, because since Pete Wilson, senator is considered to be a lower office than governor. If Sonny Bono were still alive, he'd probably have a better chance than some of the others who have run recently. But only against Boxer; Feinstein is probably unbeatable.
If Boxer ever were defeated, she could join the board of directors of a bank; she has banking experience (heh heh heh).
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at April 12, 2005 05:04 PM (FPdMX)
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http://therockconcert.ytmnd.com/
Heh.
Posted by: Spanky at April 12, 2005 05:39 PM (hlMFQ)
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Good thing you've embraced the nitwittery of Wymens Studies Hugo. One suspects that the rigor of poly sci might kick yo ass.
Boxer has never had a real opponent. Cali voter registration makes a statewide R a dumb money bet unless you have a name candidate, ala Condi, and why would SHE want the job. Even that goat blower Huffington couldn't buy a seat with the most expensive senate race in history. Good thing too, because I like my liberal assholes to have a D behind their name.
Posted by: Casca at April 12, 2005 05:57 PM (cdv3B)
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The reason Boxer keeps winning is because the national republican party has given up on California. i was told, by someone in the California Party, that the nationals won't finance our candidates because "California doesn't deliver." So it's a self fulfilling prophesy.
i think McClintock could have been competetive against Boxer, but he had no interest in running, perhaps because he knew he wouldn't have gotten RNC support, other than lip service. Hugo's probably right about Arnold, but i also don't think he'd be interested in a legislative office. He's an executive kinda guy.
Re-districting could help. California is at heart a conservative state (don't laugh. look at how we vote on propositions and in the recall). If we could prove to the national party that we're worth the trouble, by cleaning up our own legislature, we might have a chance at throwing Boxer out on her ass someday.
Posted by: annie at April 12, 2005 06:08 PM (KTxcW)
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Anni, it doesn't work that way. Races are run by caucuses, and caucuses are made up of the party members of the body they represent. To get the US Senate Republican Caucus to put money in a race, they're looking at what they can accomplish with that money. You're the caucus chairman. How many races do you want to be competitive in? The max of course, so you look to see how you can best utilize your money. California is a moneypit. Let the D's hold it.
I love that the D's are represented by the likes of Boxer, Feinstein, Clinton. They are the face of their party. At some point shrews wear out their welcome.
Posted by: Casca at April 12, 2005 08:17 PM (cdv3B)
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Annika:
The Republican Party was irrelevant in Minnesota for many years just as it is in California now.
In 1998, Bill Cooper, a businessman, started rebuilding the party piece by piece. 4 years later another businessman, Ron Eibensteiner, took over and built upon what Bill Cooper started.
Today the Republican Party is the dominant party in Minnesota. We have the governorship, the state legislature and are three seats away from controlling the Senate.
One person can completely turn the fortunes of a political party around but it takes a leader.
Posted by: Jake at April 12, 2005 08:29 PM (r/5D/)
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from the opinion journal:
Great Orators of the Democratic Party
"One man with courage makes a majority."--Andrew Jackson
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."--Franklin Roosevelt
"The buck stops here."--Harry Truman
"Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."--John Kennedy
"You can dance around it, you can run away from it, you can put perfume on it, but the bottom line is the bottom line."--Barbara Boxer
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March 31, 2005
Step One In A Move To CBS's Anchor Job?
Ted Koppel is leaving ABC.
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out with the old, in with the new.
Posted by: mdmhvonpa at March 31, 2005 09:51 AM (6x1mQ)
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this will afford mr. koppel....more time to blog.
Posted by: louielouie at March 31, 2005 10:55 AM (i7mWl)
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How about Dan Rather? He's got nothing to do...
Posted by: shelly at March 31, 2005 11:09 AM (ywZa8)
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Nightline was (and this might be damnation with faint praise) the best network news/analysis show for the last 10 years. I can think of 5 shows off the top of my head that were sober and relatively objective.
Posted by: Jason O. at March 31, 2005 11:24 AM (2CAKL)
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They'll kill Nightline. And Koppel is entirely too old for the Dan Rather gig (according to the Wizard of News folks who think we need our news to be read by folks with shiny plastic hair. Lil Bobby Sheiffer is just a temp. replacement)
Posted by: ken at March 31, 2005 11:45 AM (xD5ND)
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Ken beat me to the punch. Even if Koppel were younger, he wouldn't want any Evening/Nightly/World News job. He has the power to kill Nightline, but he doesn't have the power to kill the evening news.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at April 01, 2005 08:23 AM (v9NCH)
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This is not really a news item. Koppel will be replaced with another liberal. We all know this.
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March 28, 2005
Some Extra Thoughts On The Controversy Du Jour
While i didn't agree with everything
in this article by Andrew McCarthy of NRO, i did find the following passage persuasive:
In the PVS context, we are talking about a person’s own right to life. It doesn’t matter what we, individually or collectively, would want for ourselves. What matters is what, if anything, that person subjectively wanted — even if it doesn’t track our predilections. What matters is whether that person has considered and communicated those desires in an informed and reliable way. If she has, and PVS turns out both to be an appropriate basis to end life and actually to exist in the case at hand, we should not interfere in that choice if the state has made it available through surrogate action. If she hasn’t, we should be erring on the side of life, lest we inevitably venture further down this slope into even more ethically dubious takings of life.
As I have argued here, before the state may permit the termination of life in a PVS case, the guardian should be required to establish beyond a reasonable doubt* that the stricken person is in a PVS and that the stricken person evinced, in a knowing and intelligent way, a desire to be removed from sustenance if ever in a hopeless, incapacitated state. On the latter finding, we should encourage living wills to induce a person who considers and feels strongly about this choice to make her intentions clear. In the absence of such a living will, there should be a presumption that the person wants to live. It is life, not death, that our constitution protects.
There is a good argument that this should not merely be a presumption but a conclusion. On balance, however, I think we need to make reasonable allowances here, out of respect for the individual’s self-determination, out of the desire to minimize government intrusion into painful family matters, and out of the recognition that it would be unduly haughty to think ourselves capable of fashioning an unbending rule that will do justice in all conceivable situations — because we simply can’t conceive of all the situations that might arise in this area.
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i believe, as other bloggers have commented, that there should be a sort of "statute of frauds" for end of life decisions. Contract law will not enforce the sale of land, unless the contract is in writing. The reason is that the subject of the contract, i.e. the specific parcel of land, cannot be replaced if the Court gets it wrong. Obviously, the same rationale applies to a person's life.
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* The correct standard, in civil cases, would be "clear and convincing evidence." Which, i understand, was the standard used by Judge Greer in the Florida Court. Whether rightly or wrongly, well, that depends on whom you ask.
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March 20, 2005
Dura Lex Sed Lex
A commenter asked whether i was going to write about the Terri Schiavo case. i haven't yet because i don't know enough about the facts, and it's such a sad story i didn't want to think about it.
But this weekend, it's been hard to ignore the story.
There are so many issues, i find my opinions whipsawing back and forth. i'd rather say i don't have an opinion, and go back to enjoying my spring break. But i do have an opinion. Several opinions, as a matter of fact, and they aren't necessarily consistent. Nor am i comfortable with them.
Firstly, as background, i am Catholic. i oppose abortion for secular as well as religious reasons. There's a huge difference between the Schiavo case and the abortion issue, despite what the idealogues on both sides say. But since i'm pro-life, it's probably not surprising that when i look at the Schiavo case, i feel a great degree of sympathy for her parents' side.
Dura lex sed lex...
But i'm also profoundly uncomfortable with the legislative branch of the Federal government stepping in to oversee the ruling of a state court. That's my libertarian sensibility talking. My belief in federalism, the separation of powers, Jeffersonian democracy, the vision of our Founders. All that rot.
In 1904, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said "Great cases, like hard cases, make bad law. For great cases are called great, not by reason of their real importance in shaping the law of the future, but because of some accident of immediate overwhelming interest which appeals to the feelings and distorts the judgment."1
This is both a "hard" case, and a "great" case. Great because the issues at stake are the most fundamental to which the law can be applied. Hard because no matter what happens, Terri Schiavo will die. So it must be for all of us. But in Terri's case, the law can influence the manner and timing of her death. And that's part of the problem.
Left to the judgment of the Florida Court, Terri Schiavo dies a lingering death of starvation sometime in the next week or so. Congress steps in (as they just did moments ago), and she may - repeat may - get to live out the rest of her life, bedridden, brain-damaged, and feeding from a tube through her stomach. Only to die from some other more "natural" cause.
Dura lex sed lex...
Who should decide how she dies, when Terri's own wishes were never recorded? Here the law is clear: her husband should. But what if her husband is an asshole, whose motivations are suspect? Should this "accident of immediate overwhelming interest" be allowed to distort the judgment that would normally keep the federal legislature from intervening in a state judicial matter just because it disagrees with the outcome of one particular high profile case?
Dura lex sed lex...
...which means: The law is hard, but it is the law. Watching the House debate tonight, i find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with many of the Democrats, as they take the floor to give impassioned speeches in support of the "rule of law." (Where were they when the issue was purjury, and no life was at stake?) Hard as the law may be, they say, should Congress change the law for the benefit of one single person? i ask myself the same question.
Dura lex sed lex...
But then i think, what law? What law indeed. Here's a law that inevitably must figure into this controversy:
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law2
The Schiavo case is like the execution of a human being, by means of starvation, based on the testimony of one person, her husband. And that one witness' credibility is tainted because of his own monetary and extra-marital interest in the death of his wife. Under those facts, doesn't due process of law demand that a Federal Court have jurisdiction over the federal question of her right to life and liberty under the U.S. Constitution?
And then i think, there is another, even greater law, that may also apply here. One which helps guide me through my own conflicted thoughts:
Thou shalt not kill.3
Michael Schiavo might not like that particular law. The
Democrats who spoke tonight might not like it either. But they might do well to remember the maxim:
Dura lex sed lex.
The law is hard, but it is the law.
i am not saying that we should subordinate the civil law to the religious, like they do in Iran. i am not in favor of a theocracy. But this is a case about morality as much as it is about the rule of law. We have to be guided by moral principles as well as legal ones.
Talmudic and Christian scholars tell us that there are situations in which it may be moral to kill, or at least not immoral. This indeed may be one of those situations. All i'm saying is let's make sure. Ideally, i wish the court would order those diagnostic tests that her husband has refused to allow.
At the very minimum, i think the procedural rush to euthanize her should be slowed down. So, despite my public policy concerns about federal intervention, i do think that the uncertainty of the situation demands the same opportunity for federal review of her due process rights that a death penalty case would receive.
Update: There's an interesting discussion of the federalism issue by an expert on the subject, Ann Althouse. She quotes today's WSJ editorial, which reminds me that perhaps i should have cited the fourteenth, not the fifth amendment, supra. i have made the correction. Hey, at least my blue book cites were good.
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1 Northern Securities Company v. United States, 193 U.S. 197 (1904)(Holmes, J., dissenting).
2 U.S. Const. amend. XIV § 1. Section 5 of this amendment states that "The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article." Bingo.
3 Exodus 20:13 (King James).
[cross-posted at A Western Heart]
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"...i don't know enough about the facts, and it's such a sad story i didn't want to think about it."
I know too much about the facts, and I want to think about it even less. I've thought and written and watched and listened about it all far too much for my own good in the past few days: I've felt some kind of obligation to, given my own previous if peripheral involvement with it. There's too much to say, and I'll never feel I've said enough. I could respond to each of the points you've made in turn, but I no longer have any desire to: I think your words have put it more elegantly and clearly than I possibly could any more, since it all really is getting me pretty inarticulate at this point. Thanks.
Posted by: Dave J at March 20, 2005 11:13 PM (cZ/tT)
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"Too bad we don't use the chair anymore. He deserves to fry in old sparky."
Thou shalt not kill?
Posted by: d-rod at March 21, 2005 10:22 AM (CSRmO)
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D-rod, the more literal Hebrew translation is actually "thou shalt not
murder."
Posted by: Dave J at March 21, 2005 10:48 AM (cZ/tT)
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Obviously, it has generally been interpreted in a way that opposes "unjust killing". Exodus 21, however, goes on to say that if a man kills a slave under his hand and the death is not immediate he is pretty much exempt from this commandment. Is that not a case in the Bible for letting a murderer walk away scot-free?
Posted by: d-rod at March 21, 2005 11:24 AM (CSRmO)
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Not having kept up with the Shiavor case very much, this is my question: Isn't Congress' involvement really a kabuki dance - with their real concern being abortion v. right to life? Isn't this the elephant in the room? Or do I have the wrong impression?
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As i implied in that post, d-rod, my stand on the death penalty is in a state of flux. The Groenigen protocol and the Schiavo case have had a lot to do with that. Still, Scott Peterson is not innocent, as Terri Schiavo is. And most likely, he will never be executed, anyway.
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for seven years or so terri has had nothing but due process, 20 judges (in both state and federal courts) over seven years. This is about 16 or 17 more judges than your typical death penalty case gets and ecrtainly no condemned prisoner has ever had a president awaken in the middle of the night to sign a special bill for him. this president in fact, when he was governor, mocked and laughed at karla faye tucker's appeals. I agree with most of your post, pretty much up until your ending. That man is her husband, even the bible says that no one should come between husband and wife. here her parents want to do exactly that -- and not that i blame them. it sucks that he now speaks for her. but he does. it's florida's law, u.s. law and even biblical law. if he is lying or has impure motives (although i don't think it's money, since by all accounts all the medical malpractice money has been spent on the case and he just recently turned down 1 million dollars to walk away from her) then he will have to answer for that before God (or the florida state police if charges are investigated).
Posted by: dawn summers at March 21, 2005 02:16 PM (HLOeu)
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I know annie. I was more questioning invoking some ancient commandment to this issue. For example, should "honor thy father and thy mother" be obeyed if the father happened to be Scott Peterson or Charles Manson? Dave J. might argue that
honor might be better translated as
respect, but whatever. I have to agree with Dawn's conclusion to let her die.
Posted by: d-rod at March 21, 2005 02:56 PM (CSRmO)
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Happily, Annie, I'm with you on this one. Actually, there isn't much about which to be happy, is there?
Posted by: Hugo at March 21, 2005 03:17 PM (Qst0d)
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Annika,
I agree with your entire post, except your ending about the "procedural rush." As far as I know, and as you said about yourself, I don't know enough about the case to be sure, the cases started over 7 years ago. If that is the case, it doesn't really seem to be a rush.
Also, is the husband (I can't remember his name, not that I really care to) really an asshole? My wife suffers from a chronic illness - nowhere near Ms. Schiavo's, but I can, to some extremely limited extent, identify with his pain in watching his wife exist in her state. Would I react the way he has were my wife to be in that state? I hope not, but I cannot fairly say.
However, over and above all of that, I am highly impressed by your ability to rationally analyze the case. I am a practicing laawyer and I know very few lawyeers who could set aside their personal feelings as well as you did to analyze what is, in the end, a highly emotional and agonizing affair no matter where you stand on it.
I look forward to hearing about your life as a lawyer.
Posted by: JJR at March 21, 2005 04:25 PM (HxEi3)
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BRAVO! Well done!!
Let's have a death penalty convo sometime. I know the path.
Posted by: Casca at March 21, 2005 04:41 PM (cdv3B)
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Terri is a disabled woman who is aware and responds to her environment. Physically and mentally sound people have presumed to know what she wants. That presumption is that she must want to die because she is disabled, because who would want to live like that? Is hers a life not worthy of life because of the fact that she is disabled? Disabled people everywhere must be very, very frightened. And non-disabled people who could become disabled at some future date should be very, very frightened. Terri is you and Terri is me, and I for one, want to live.
Posted by: Carol at March 21, 2005 06:04 PM (N5d+F)
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I don't think she should die this way. Starvation is a cruel way to go. Not as cruel as some other wys but not something to be lightly dismissed.
That being said it's disappointing that the feds have intervened. The due process argument falls short. If Terri was tried for a crime I could see where a due process claim might (mighty big word might is) be approporiate. But this is as best a civil, not a criminal matter. It's in accordance with Florida's laws (afaik). You can't say someone's been denied due process when they're beign affected by legal actions. & as someone pointed out it's not like there's been one or two court proceedings - there have been several.
But the feds didn't like the outcome so they made a play for more power. See aside from the constitutional issues there's one that people often ignore. I bring it up whenever anyone advocates a smoking ban - if a government has the power to prohibit something they also have the power to mandate it. Ban smoking in public places? When that happens they also assume the power to mandate smoking in public places. Demand federal review of a life or death state case? That means they can also deny such review. Or putting it in simpler (if somewhat less accurate) terms - if the feds assume the power to save one life then they assume the power to take it.
So I'm agin federal involvement.
However there's a state angle which everyone seems to be overlooking. I'm sure Florida has some laws pertaining to adultery on the books. Possibly laws pertaining to appointing a guardian in such matters if for some reason a spouse is not competent to look after her interests. Now if both of those assumptions of mine are true about Florida law then since Terri's hubby has a common law wife & a couple of kids I'd think the best route would be to have someone sue him for divorce on her behalf. If said divorce is granted then the parents should (I assume) become her guardians. But that relies on a few assumptions that I have neither the time nor inclination to delve into.
Regardless starvation is cruel as hell. The hubby would gain much more respect if he would abondon the plan of just jerking out her tube. If the situation is as he describes (which seems doubtful) then he'd stand a good chance of acquital if he slipped something into her tube to peacefully kill her. But it seems he wants her dead without getting his hands dirty. I disagree with the decision to end her life & his being a punk about it doesn't do a damn thing to change my mind.
Oh, about the detah penalty - in principle I'm in favor of it. In practice I waiver from case to case - mainly because I don't trust our legal system to get it right & when we do pick the right guy we take way too damn long. Ideally the death penalty should be imposed at the time of the crime by the would be victim. But that's another topic entirely & perhaps one too foreign to Californians to discuss in a comments section.
Posted by: Publicola at March 22, 2005 05:06 AM (DQj8i)
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OK, I'm probably going to be banned for saying this, but...
I can't be the only one who saw "lurid sex with Durex" sprinkled throughout this post.
Kevin
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Kevin, Durex didn't exist in ancient Rome. They used Trojans.
okay now i have to ban myself.
Posted by: annie at March 22, 2005 07:37 AM (F5sOy)
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I see law school has already warped Annika's mind. She's perfectly citing U.S. Supreme Court cases!
Mark, J.D.
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March 15, 2005
Kerry Can't Figure It Out
A Kerry quote from his February 28, 2005 Distinguished American Award fête at the JFK Library:
A lot of the mainstream media were very responsible during the campaign. They tried to put out a balanced view, and they did show what they thought to be the truth in certain situations of attack. . . . But it never penetrated. And when you look at the statistics and understand that about 80 percent of America gets 100 percent of its news from television, and a great deal of that news comes from either MTV, Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Jay Leno, David Letterman, you begin to see the size of the challenge. . . . And so I don't have the total answer. I just know it's something that we've really got to grapple with.
As
P. J. O'Rourke pointed out, MTV, Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Jay Leno and David Letterman weren't exactly hurting Kerry's campaign, yet he still came up short.
i guess what Kerry was trying to say was that he couldn't get his message out. Of course it couldn't have been the message itself. No way. Not that.
Hat tip to Roscoe.
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What exactly is the "challenge" we have to "grapple with?" Imagine for a moment if Bush said this....Media types would be doing cartwheels on the WH lawn screaming about the President's implied endorsement of censorship.
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I am gay!
Posted by: Robert Mac-Lelland at March 16, 2005 10:52 AM (/oUr4)
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Rrriiiight. While Robert is bitching about conservatives in the media painting all liberals with the "pussy" brush, he has been hypocritically labeling us as fascist "reich whingers" for the past several months if not his whole life.
"Eliminate the Reich Whinge!"
I think Annika needs to inform Mac about his problem with psychological projection again or at least cut off his balls so that he can't breed more lemmings to make life miserable for the rest of us.
Posted by: reagan80 at March 16, 2005 12:00 PM (dP84C)
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It's like I said to my friends at work the day after the election. "I've got good news and bad news. The bad news is Bush won the election, the good news is Kerry lost".
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March 08, 2005
The President's Remarks At Fort Lesley J. McNair
When Tony Pierce interviewed me last month, i criticized the president for "his maddening inarticulateness" and his administration for its "horrible job of articulating the argument for war."
So today, i was pleased to hear the President's remarks to the National Defense University at Fort McNair. The speech covered subjects that the President has emphasized often, and unfortunately it's not getting the attention it deserves. It was a historic speech, and deserves to be considered among this presidentÂ’s finest. i think the president explained our foreign policy today with more clarity and less defensiveness than he has ever done until now.
The theory here is straightforward: terrorists are less likely to endanger our security if they are worried about their own security. When terrorists spend their days struggling to avoid death or capture, they are less capable of arming and training to commit new attacks. We will keep the terrorists on the run, until they have nowhere left to hide.
ThatÂ’s the short term strategy, and its efficacy should be obvious by now.
During the presidential campaign season, i often tried to point out that Bush had the only long term strategy for keeping America safe. Kerry wanted to hunt down Osama, but it was clear to me that eliminating one man was not going to prevent future attacks. Only changing the Middle East could do that. Bush made that point beautifully today.
Our strategy to keep the peace in the longer term is to help change the conditions that give rise to extremism and terror, especially in the broader Middle East. Parts of that region have been caught for generations in a cycle of tyranny and despair and radicalism. When a dictatorship controls the political life of a country, responsible opposition cannot develop, and dissent is driven underground and toward the extreme. And to draw attention away from their social and economic failures, dictators place blame on other countries and other races, and stir the hatred that leads to violence. This status quo of despotism and anger cannot be ignored or appeased, kept in a box or bought off, because we have witnessed how the violence in that region can reach easily across borders and oceans. The entire world has an urgent interest in the progress, and hope, and freedom in the broader Middle East.
. . . By now it should be clear that authoritarian rule is not the wave of the future; it is the last gasp of a discredited past. It should be clear that free nations escape stagnation, and grow stronger with time, because they encourage the creativity and enterprise of their people. It should be clear that economic progress requires political modernization, including honest representative government and the rule of law.
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Across the Middle East, a critical mass of events is taking that region in a hopeful new direction. Historic changes have many causes, yet these changes have one factor in common. A businessman in Beirut recently said, ‘We have removed the mask of fear. We're not afraid anymore.’ Pervasive fear is the foundation of every dictatorial regime -- the prop that holds up all power not based on consent. And when the regime of fear is broken, and the people find their courage and find their voice, democracy is their goal, and tyrants, themselves, have reason to fear.
During my interview, i also tried to explain an often overlooked aspect of Bush’s foreign policy. i said: “For years, the US was criticized for propping up dictators to further our own national interest, especially in Central and South America. And these dictators were bad men, but they were our bad men. . . . Now the US is not propping up friendly dictators [anymore]; instead we try to bring friendly democracies to the places we need them. i think that's a step in the right direction. As long as we're messing in other people's business, it's better that we're no longer putting in dictators”
HereÂ’s how President Bush acknowledged that very important, and welcome, shift in our foreign policy:
The advance of hope in the Middle East also requires new thinking in the capitals of great democracies -- including Washington, D.C. By now it should be clear that decades of excusing and accommodating tyranny, in the pursuit of stability, have only led to injustice and instability and tragedy. It should be clear that the advance of democracy leads to peace, because governments that respect the rights of their people also respect the rights of their neighbors. It should be clear that the best antidote to radicalism and terror is the tolerance and hope kindled in free societies. And our duty is now clear: For the sake of our long-term security, all free nations must stand with the forces of democracy and justice that have begun to transform the Middle East.
The Bush administrationÂ’s abandonment of Cold War style foreign affairs -- where any sonofabitch was okay as long as he was our sonofabitch -- is something that should have endeared the left to President Bush, if not for their own blind hatred of anything Republican. But no matter. Our president is committed to the spread of friendly democracies rather than simply installing friendly dictatorships (which were historically easier to create) because it is the right thing to do, not because it will win him any popularity contests. Here, the president reminded his audience that staying on this difficult and urgent task will not always be easy.
Encouraging democracy in that region is a generational commitment. It's also a difficult commitment, demanding patience and resolve -- when the headlines are good and when the headlines aren't so good. Freedom has determined enemies, who show no mercy for the innocent, and no respect for the rules of warfare. Many societies in the region struggle with poverty and illiteracy, many rulers in the region have longstanding habits of control; many people in the region have deeply ingrained habits of fear.
He might have added that the enemies of freedom are not limited to certain “rulers in the region.” i can think of quite a few naysayers in Europe and right here at home who suffer from “deeply ingrained habits of fear,” which prevent them from seeing the truly revolutionary nature of President Bush’s foreign policy.
We know that freedom, by definition, must be chosen, and that the democratic institutions of other nations will not look like our own. Yet we also know that our security increasingly depends on the hope and progress of other nations now simmering in despair and resentment. And that hope and progress is found only in the advance of freedom.
This advance is a consistent theme of American strategy -- from the Fourteen Points, to the Four Freedoms, to the Marshall Plan, to the Reagan Doctrine. Yet the success of this approach does not depend on grand strategy alone. We are confident that the desire for freedom, even when repressed for generations, is present in every human heart. And that desire can emerge with sudden power to change the course of history.
. . . Those who place their hope in freedom may be attacked and challenged, but they will not ultimately be disappointed, because freedom is the design of humanity and freedom is the direction of history.
Lofty words, but i think the perspective of history will see them backed up by concrete results.
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Posted by: JD at March 09, 2005 03:33 AM (pQrtL)
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Annie,
I was going to post on thie, but I couldn't possibly say it better than you did. Great job. I'll link to you instead. Trying to get trackback to work, but I can't. I'll just do a general link to the site.
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"i said: “For years, the US was criticized for propping up dictators to further our own national interest, especially in Central and South America. And these dictators were bad men, but they were our bad men. . . . Now the US is not propping up friendly dictators [anymore]; instead we try to bring friendly democracies to the places we need them."
In my view, we just took care of the bigger fish frist. We took care of the USSR, and now we are cleaning up the mess we made when we too care of the USSR. Saddam was created by us, and he was taken care of by us.
Posted by: cube at March 09, 2005 07:04 AM (nyNr0)
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At best Saddam was allowed to be by the US rivalry with the USSR, and we may have encouraged his fight with Iran, but in the end, were the Republican Guard supporting AKs or M16s, T72s or Abrams's? I was in the USSR when the first Gulf War took place. The Russkies kept saying that they didn't sell their best AA gear to the Iraqis - however, after we crushed their air defenses, the entire Central Asian command of the Air Defense Corps (a seprate branch of the Soviet Military) was fired, along with the overall commanding general. Saddam owed his existance in large part to Brezhnev, and everyone over there knew it.
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March 02, 2005
MoveOn.org's Losing Streak
Rolling Stone has
a good article regarding the ineffectiveness of those arrogant jerks at MoveOn.org. Here are the highlights:
They signed up 500,000 supporters with an Internet petition -- but Bill Clinton still got impeached. They organized 6,000 candlelight vigils worldwide -- but the U.S. still invaded Iraq. They raised $60 million from 500,000 donors to air countless ads and get out the vote in the battle-ground states -- but George Bush still whupped John Kerry. A gambler with a string of bets this bad might call it a night. But MoveOn.org just keeps doubling down.
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Moveon is guided by a tiny, tightknit group of leaders. There are only ten of them, still deeply committed to the Internet start-up ethos of working out of their homes and apartments in better-dead-than-red bastions such as Berkeley, California, Manhattan and Washington, D.C. For a political organization that likes to rail against 'the consulting class of professional election losers,' MoveOn seems remarkably unconcerned about its own win-loss record. Talk to the group's leadership and you won't hear much about the agony of defeat.
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But some insiders worry that putting left-wing idealists in charge of speaking to the center seems about as likely to work as chewing gum with your feet. 'There's a built-in tension between the views of people who are part of MoveOn and contribute to it, and the people they're trying to reach,' says Ed Kilgore of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council.
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If speaking to the center was MoveOn's goal, 'they failed miserably,' says Greg Strimple, a media consultant who advised the Senate campaigns of three GOP moderates. 'None of their ads had an impact on the center electorate that needed to be swung.' If the group's leadership saw anything broken with its advertising during the campaign, though, it shows no signs of fixing it. In a rush to get its new Social Security ad on the air, MoveOn didn't even test it.
The ad, which depicts senior citizens performing manual labor, was not only paid for by MoveOn members but was also created by them. This kind of closed feedback loop is indicative of a larger problem: the group's almost hermetic left-wing insularity. 'We don't get around much,' acknowledges Boyd. 'We tend to all stay in front of our keyboards and do the work.'
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So who is MoveOn? Consider this: Howard Dean finished first in the MoveOn primary. Number Two wasn't John Kerry or John Edwards -- it was Dennis Kucinich. Listing the issues that resonate most with their membership, Boyd and Blades cite the environment, the Iraq War, campaign-finance reform, media reform, voting reform and corporate reform. Somewhere after freedom, opportunity and responsibility comes 'the overlay of security concerns that everybody shares.' Terrorism as a specific concern is notably absent. As are jobs. As is health care. As is education.
There's nothing inherently good or bad in any of this. It's just that MoveOn's values aren't middle-American values. They're the values of an educated, steadily employed middle and upper-middle class with time to dedicate to politics -- and disposable income to leverage when they're agitated. That's fine, as long as the group sticks to mobilizing fellow travelers on the left. But the risks are greater when it presumes to speak for the entire party.
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Far-left voices like MoveOn, in my opinion, will continue to influence the party until what will become known by Democrats as "the disastrous midterms of 2006." Then, hopefully some sanity will return to the party of FDR, and they'll kick these freakos to the curb.
Or not.
Update: Brittany weighs in with her own opinion of Rolling Stone:
I think the same guy who does Rolling Stone does Us Weekly. He's this big old fat man.
Brilliant.
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I think Michael Moore, MoveOn, and the liberal bloggers need a reality check. Have to realize that not everybody agrees with them. Goal should be to convert moderate mainstream Americans, not play to a tiny extremist minority.
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Annie:
Who asked you to help these gekes out? They siphon precious dollars away from campaigns that might be put to use in a more efficient way to hurt the good guys.
STFU and let them wallow in their misery. As for myself, I prefer to just keep quiet and enjoy the thrill of victory. I like to allow them the space to enjoy the agony of defeat.
Posted by: shelly at March 02, 2005 05:37 PM (+7VNs)
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I just can't believe the irony of Rolling Stone saying that "MoveOn's values aren't middle-American values"...Rolling Stone, which couldn't represent middle-American values any less than they already do...
Posted by: Robbie at March 02, 2005 06:10 PM (htx4h)
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As they say, "Never interrupt your enemy when he's in the process of self-destructing".
Posted by: Casca at March 02, 2005 06:12 PM (cdv3B)
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The leaders of Moveon are well on their way to becoming millionaires. That is the only objective they care about.
Politics is just a method and a distraction to their quest for wealth.
Posted by: Jake at March 02, 2005 06:42 PM (r/5D/)
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I may be mistaken but isn't the Social Security ad just a rip off of the kids doing manual labor one that won their election ad contest?
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at March 02, 2005 08:51 PM (U3CvV)
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Ah, yes, Brittney..the intellect that never began giving in the first place..
Posted by: JD at March 03, 2005 09:16 AM (pQrtL)
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Both of the major political parties in the U.S. participate in a predictable veer between ideology and practicality.
And I'm not ready to proclaim Republican victory in the 2006 elections just yet - especially in the middle of a lame duck second term.
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March 01, 2005
Sheets Bird Addresses The Fubar Convention
The challenge: create a photoshop image that is even more freakin' disturbing than yesterday's Ward Churchil image.
Mission accomplished? i'll let you be the judge.

That's pretty ugly, but not as ugly as what he said on the floor of the Senate today, when he equated Senate Republicans with Hitler. Radio Blogger has the details.
Bird has completely lost his senses. How ironic for a Klansman to be lecturing on Nazism. At least he knows his subject.
By the way, i fully support this idea. If it's good enough for our stamps and money, it's good enough for West Virginia.
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I am proud to call West Virginia my home state, but Senator Byrd remains an egregious embarrassment. I must admit that employment, roads and the state economy have benefitted significantly from his pork barrel, but it seems clear that he is a megalomaniacal idiot, and certainly it is arguable that he is deep in the grip of Alzheimer's. There is currently no better example of the need for further term-limitation legislation. He probably should have been committed in the 80's.
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JD, it's the tertiary syphillis. Personally, I hope he breaks Strom's record.
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