Some Quick Notes On The Punditry
Here are some notes that occur to me, reading the various conservative pundits doing their various post-election stuff.
1. I keep reading about how it's the Democrats' turn to govern. Congress does not govern. Congress legislates. It takes three branches to govern. Keep that in mind.
2. I keep reading about how "we'll get 'em back in two years." Not so fast. Iraq is the biggest problem that needs to be fixed, and soon. If Iraq is fixed, to the satisfaction of the electorate, then guess who gets the credit. Not us. If Iraq gets worse, Republicans might have a chance to say I told you so, but guess who the electorate will blame. Not the Democrats. And I for one, desperately want a victory in Iraq, regardless of who gets the credit. If that means a longer time in the wilderness, so be it. Our men and women in arms deserve victory, for all they've sacrificed. I hope, hope, hope, that victory is really part of the Democratic plan, and now that they've won, I'm willing to give them a fair chance to make their case.
3. I think yesterday eliminated four sure losers from running for the Republican nomination in '08. Santorum, Frist, Allen, and Romney. These guys all had their appeal for hopeful conservatives (maybe not Frist, who was an abysmal leader from the start), but none of them, in my view, had a snowball's chance against Hillary/Obama in today's environment. I'm glad they're off the table.
Update:
4. As the day wears on, I'm more and more disappointed with most of the big name pundits on the right: from Hugh Hewitt (who blames John McCain?!?!), to Rush Limbaugh (who boasts that Republicans are better than Democrats because we're not crying about fraud after a loss, then in almost the same breath demands an ACORN investigation). The first step is admitting there's a problem, fellas.
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Santorum, Frist, and Allen are all out -- but Romney? I'm not sure how he comes out of this looking bad. Explain.
Posted by: Hugo at November 08, 2006 12:51 PM (yLeev)
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Hugh asked my question exactly. Ahnold's victory proves that the right GOP candidate can attract Democratic voters in Blue States. Massachusetts is the bluest of blue states, yet Mitt Romney is a popular GOP governor there. I think yesterday enhanced his chances of nomination.
Posted by: Ralphyboy at November 08, 2006 12:57 PM (skVyJ)
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Bush has had the better part of four years to get this right, with a Republican Congress backing him up. I don't trust many Dems on national defense, but if guys like Lieberman and Webb are allowed to lead on this issue, I'm willing to give 'em a chance. Victory means a democratic, independent Iraq with a relatively stable government (not necessarily without any crime or terrorism). I really don't care how we get there.
Posted by: Matt at November 08, 2006 01:00 PM (10G2T)
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Santorum doesn't belong on that list. One of the days other big losers is our answer to Obama, Ken Blackwell who lost the Governor's race in Ohio.
Posted by: Casca at November 08, 2006 01:01 PM (Y7t14)
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Annie,
No, we won't get 'em back in two years. But if this makes the Repubs remember what they used to be all about, it'll be worth it to me if it takes six or eight years to get 'em back. Because if the only choice is Dems and Dems (Lite), well, fuck -- we might as well just go ahead and get it over with.
Posted by: Matt at November 08, 2006 01:04 PM (10G2T)
Posted by: reagan80 at November 08, 2006 01:39 PM (dFOlH)
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Deval Patrick (who makes Mike Dukasis look like a centrist) won by a landslide over Romney's Lt-Governor. Given Massachusetts is already bluer than blue, the results reinforce the fact Romney has no coattails. He was elected in 2002 in the wake of 9/11 with less than 50% of the vote because of his outsider against the democratic Beacon Hill insiders image (and his opponent ran a terrible campaign). Note how the Rhode Island Republican Governor won re-election by touting his taking on the corrupt insiders image in spite of a democratic landslide (even the RHINO Lincoln Chaffee got booted by a guy who's only platform was Linc Chaffee = more George Bush friendly Senate).
Romney = republican equivalent of nominating Mike Dukasis in 1988.
Posted by: Col Steve at November 08, 2006 01:57 PM (pj2h7)
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The elephant in the room associated to Romney is his religion. Is this country ready for a Mormon President? Is the Republican Party ready for a leader that comes from a cult? I don't want to offend anybody, but these people believe some pretty crazy stuff. Many of us mock Islam for its bizarre beliefs. What do you think the MSM and opponents are going to do with Mormon beliefs?
Hey, I think Romney is an attractive candidate: well-spoken, smart, thoughtful, and he appears very genuine. But let's not pretend that his religion doesnÂ’t matter. It does. It will.
For me the most fundamental issue is the GWOT. I want somebody who understands it, will confront it, and is willing to talk honestly about it. Secondly, I want somebody who believes in smaller (but effective) government. Thirdly, I want a leader who understands basic economics and that Keynes was wrong. A social conservative is fine, but if he/she wants to place abortion and gay marriage on the front burner, I want nothing to do with them. Those issues have to be lower priority and, in fact, are issues that should be determined by individual states. Further, I donÂ’t want another Rep who claims to be conservative but spends money on social programs like fucking LBJ.
For the time-being, IÂ’ll be supporting Giuliani for 2008.
Posted by: blu at November 08, 2006 02:18 PM (j8oa6)
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"A social conservative is fine, but if he/she wants to place abortion and gay marriage on the front burner, I want nothing to do with them." That's why Romney would lose in '08.
I had read that the Patrick victory in MA was considered a repudiation of Romney as governor. Thanks Col Steve for explaining the details.
Posted by: annika at November 08, 2006 02:22 PM (zAOEU)
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Having not been in office during the bloodbath, Giuliani comes out on top.
If the Republicans can finally get the message that you need to not piss off your base, and you need to make reasonable appeals to people's concerns and their pocketbook instead of just trying to scare them.
Then they can (under new leadership) make a strong comeback. Because moderate conservatism will always sell well in this nation if the people believe you.
Of course, if the Dems pick up the torch and work with the president to ease us out of Iraq, keep some of the tax cuts so the economy doesn't slow down, and act mature about border security and immigration reform, then they will be the majority party forever.
However, I am pretty sure they are incapable of such sober judgments.
Posted by: kyle8 at November 08, 2006 03:43 PM (BytpM)
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Ms. Annika,
I listened to Rush for all three hours today. Your tid-bit in #4 certainly was not a faithful summary of his election thoughts, which were actually fairly thoughtful and pretty tough on the current Congressional leadership and the Administration.
Your Rush bias is almost as bad as my Michael Savage bias. (I'm not comparing them, BTW.)
Posted by: blu at November 08, 2006 04:21 PM (/J4yP)
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Boy, how much fun is this? I am savoring every moment of listening to you folks sift through the ashes.
Had only Iraq remained on the map then none of this would have happened. We would still be over flying, they would still have no WMD's or any other capacity to do any harm, Afganistan might be stable and poppy free, and Bin Laden dead. ANd let's not forget the untold numbers of young jihadists that might still be living in their parents home, going to High School or University, with no burning desire to run off to Iraq to confront the infidels. Gee, that scenerio really scares me, how about you Blu? Two more years of the dim wit and a good shot at '08. How bad that would have been from your perspective?
Posted by: Strawman at November 08, 2006 05:05 PM (9ySL4)
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Savor it, Straw. Your side won. You should enjoy it while you can.
But, here is the rub. Now you guys have to govern. That will be a problem though because you don't have any ideas...besides raising the minimum wage (and putting teenagers out of work.) It might actually be fun to watch a brain-dead and morally bankrupt party try to govern. (Quick: tell me the three big ideas for public policy that Dem ran-on for this election?)
I'm dying to hear the Dem plan for the first 100 days. Here's what I suggest: raise the minimum wage; grant amnesty for illegal aliens; layout pullout plans from Iraq. And, of course, begin the impeachment case against Bush and the war-crimes trial for Rummy.
My prediction is two years of Dems doing nothing, hoping they can coast into '08 without hurting themselves too much.
Posted by: blu at November 08, 2006 07:45 PM (/J4yP)
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At least I'm content with the fact that Straw's side was on the receiving end of the Donkey Punch of 2004.
Posted by: reagan80 at November 08, 2006 09:15 PM (dFOlH)
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Blu is right, Annika, Rush didn't demand an investigation of ACORN. He couldn't. The investigation of ACORN began before Election day.
Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2006 11:19 PM (/qy9A)
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and the Tooth Fairy really exists. Pacifying the Pashtuns was never going to be easy, and there is no way in hell we could pacify them AND eliminate their poppy growing proclivity.
Maybe some of the dumber jihadis would not have made the trip to Iraq, but the serious ones would have been in Pakistan for sure.
Posted by: Aaron at November 09, 2006 02:47 AM (svXR7)
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Blu,
If you had read my post and not read into it, you would notice I did not say a word about Democrats and their ideas for governing. (Although I don't agree with you about the minium wage. losing teenagers who presumely have no dependents but increasing the income to a family that might have two low wage earners in not a bad thing.) I don't think they have much of a chance of resolving Iraq in a way that resembles Annie's definition of "winning". I don't think anybody at this point does. This is one fucking omlet congealing on the pavement. The Bush gang, fat stupid and full of a mandate they did not posses wriggled down a hole and got stuck. Like the Intrepid, which six tugboats have failed to move, Democrats or anyone else that might be enlisted to get their sorry asses out of this are destined to fail. This is why I think Rove's strategy was to lose the election, turn the pot of steamy shit over to the Dem's and then ask America in two years how they liked the meal. This will give them a fighting chance in 08, the alternative would have led to a rout in 08 since the meal the R's would be serving up would be no tastier
Posted by: Strawman at November 09, 2006 09:05 AM (9ySL4)
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"I think Rove's strategy was to lose the election..."
lol, even when you win, it's a Rove conspiracy!
Posted by: annika at November 09, 2006 11:00 AM (9v8pa)
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A,
These people are nuts. I was talking to one of the moonbats yesterday, who obviously is reading one of the myriad of looney left-wing blogs, and he said something to the effect that Bush was suffering from early signs of dementia based on his inability to speak well. You see, according to the moonbats, Bush was a pretty decent speaker - not stumbling over his words like he does now - when he was governor of Texas. All of this is of course absurd - he was mocked in Texas for his less than gifted speaking abilities. But, as Straw often proves, if you keep repeating your own lies long enough (e.g. Bush is responsible for more deaths than Hussein), you begin to believe them.
So, though we have lost, always remember who the opposition is - these people. It's sort of like losing a game to an inferior opponent because you took them too lightly. You are rightly embarrassed but also realize that you are superior in every fashion and will beat them 9 out of 10 times.
Posted by: blu at November 09, 2006 11:17 AM (/J4yP)
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Amen, blu. I'd rather be strong in '08 than '06.
Posted by: Casca at November 09, 2006 11:44 AM (Y7t14)
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Blu,
Straw reminds me of the poseur from the bar scene in Good Will Hunting.
Posted by: reagan80 at November 09, 2006 11:49 AM (dFOlH)
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speaking of losing to an inferior opponent, SC sure came back from that OSU loss. 42 to nothing against Stanford!
Posted by: annika at November 09, 2006 12:11 PM (zAOEU)
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Other than history, there's no reason to assume that the Democrats can't "govern." The first Article of the Constitution is about Congress, and in the original view the President was the person who executed Congress' wishes. Over the years (especially since Andrew Jackson), the President has taken more and more responsibility for setting the direction of the country, but some argue that recent presidents have been unConstitutional in their actions (the main gripe - waging war without a formal declaration from Congress as required by the Constitution). Theoretically, the Democrats could govern by setting an agenda and passing bills that reflect their wishes, hoping that President "What's a Veto?" Bush will just roll along. Contrast this with Gerald Ford, who knew what a veto was and knew how to use it.
Also, I wouldn't count 2006 losers out just yet, for two reasons. First, you can bounce back from a loss - look at Richard Nixon. Second, unlike those in office, the losers have a whole lot of free time to go to Iowa and New Hampshire, and if George Allen can make a persuasive case in the coffeshops, he may get more than "Big Mo."
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at November 09, 2006 02:16 PM (YWsCw)
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An easy decision for Rove, he's gone. Shows some Bush leadership (since he did lose this election for us because the congressional leadership defaulted to him on the country's agenda), PLUS it Gives the dems something practical to wrassle with; i expect extensive hearings and questioning of the nominee, which isn't bad per se. And, in listening to the prez's press conference right now, truly I hate bush's frat boy chuckle.
Posted by: Scof at November 08, 2006 12:29 PM (a3fqn)
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A few months ago I read an interview with an outgoing Army general, logistician-type, who helped write the war plan for Iraq. He said very plainly that Rummy refused to let them even plan for the post-war period, and finally threatened to fire anyone who so much as mentioned it again.
That's when I went well and truly sour on Rummy. Good riddance.
Posted by: Matt at November 08, 2006 12:46 PM (10G2T)
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What's up with the White House? Appointing a guy who had his first nomination as CIA director withdrawn because of linkage to Iran-Contra is opening up a can of worms when the point of Rumsfeld's resignation is to defuse controversary. Can't wait for Carl Levin to schedule the nomination hearings on the same day as Daniel Ortega's inauguration in Nicaragua!
What about floating Joe Leiberman's name? I doubt he'd take it given CT has a Republican governor, but that would have opened up some interesting possibilities. At the mid-term point of a lame duck Presidency, the Secretary of Defense will have little impact on the future of the military. The focus is on executing and institutionalizing the policies and strategies -- actually managing and running the Department of Defense. This nomination is not to recycle a family loyalist.
The good thing is the in-box of many Pentagon action officers just became significantly lighter.
Posted by: Col Steve at November 08, 2006 12:48 PM (pj2h7)
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How about the fact that Rummy is SecDef until his heir is blessed & sworn. He's a good soldier. He can make a few unpopular decisions that can help the guys doing the dirty work, and take the blame with him.
Posted by: Casca at November 08, 2006 03:39 PM (Y7t14)
It's A New Day
It looks like I was almost spot on with my Senate predictions. If things turn out as they look like they're headed, the only race that I will not have called will be Virginia, and that only by a couple thousand votes. So I think you all better start paying attention to me. ; )
Regarding the California ballot, the news this morning is particularly disheartening. Tom McClintock lost the Lt. Governor's race to John Garamendi. I like Garamendi, but McClintock was a solid guy, and very popular. I really thought he was going to win, but this is a Democratic year and he had an R by his name.
Jerry Brown is our new Attorney General. This guy is a disgrace. His opponent had some hard hitting ads, which sounded like they were made up because they were so outrageous, but in Jerry Brown's case, the attacks were true.
Our anti-Kelo proposition went down by five points. I don't think proponents spent enough money advertising that one, though.
All the bonds won, and the parental notification measure lost. No surprise there.
The only really good California result I can point to is that Cruz Bustamonte did not win the Insurance Commissioner job. (And no, I do not include Arnold's win as a good thing.) Oh, and Prop 87, the alternative energy referendum, also went down handily.
I have a post-election post in my head, which I've been ruminating on since last weekend. It's coming, I just don't have time to write it now. The working title of the piece is "I Blame Bush," so stay tuned.
A final note before I rush off to class, and I'm sincere about this. Despite yesterday's defeat, today is a good day.
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Annie, you were so kind to me in my bitter disappointment two years ago. I know that mix of frustration and resolve you feel now.
Let's take it out on Arizona, USC, and Stanford.
Posted by: Hugo Schwyzer at November 08, 2006 09:47 AM (yLeev)
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During this excursion into the political wilderness, our guys will hopefully learn to stop acting like Johnson Democrats. I'm confident that the Cooch-eunuch...err...I mean...Kucinich Democrats in the House will self-destruct before 2008. Maybe Bush will finally start to veto some spending bills instead of being a damn Third Way-er.
Posted by: reagan80 at November 08, 2006 10:02 AM (dFOlH)
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Hugo, you bring a tear to my eye.
Yes, let's hope Cal runs the table too.
Posted by: annika at November 08, 2006 10:19 AM (zAOEU)
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Oh, Surprise, surprise! He dumped Rumnuts! How quickly two years go by.
Constently assessing, constently changing tactics, constantly assessing the objective.
Now I'll work with the democrats so that we can do big things for America.....together.
I thought we were gonna do fine yesterday......Shows what I know, heh heh.....
What a schmuck. Homer Simpson is more presidential
Posted by: Strawman at November 08, 2006 11:25 AM (9ySL4)
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The Jerry Brown thing scares me the most, I think, and there's not much margin for error left in California. You called him a disgrace, but I think that was being polite...
Posted by: Mike at November 08, 2006 12:59 PM (Eodj2)
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A state that would elect Jerry Brown deserves him. Fucking unbelievable.
With that said, the only liberal talk show I've ever listened to and actually liked was Jerry Brown's show. Weird.
Posted by: blu at November 08, 2006 02:25 PM (j8oa6)
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Mailed my ballot in last week, voted the Annica party line!
Posted by: wayne at November 07, 2006 07:33 AM (1wBAs)
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Thanks Ms. Annie. I just voted. Living in mid-town/downtown Sac means that the poll worker gave me a dirty look when learning that I am, gasp, a Republican. The scowl was fucking priceless. Of course, the very fact that I'm a Rep, and she likely a useless welfare grubbing Dem can generally provide a contrast between us: I'm likely smarter, better educated, and make more fucking money. Yeah, take that you commie judgemental be-yatch!
I realize that it was 7:30 AM, but turnout at my polling place, which is always busy on Presidential years, was dead this morning. Good for us because I live in a solid "Blue" part of town.
Posted by: blu at November 07, 2006 09:00 AM (MKP3x)
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The Democrat mantra has started this morning: "voting irregularities."
How can the MSM allow the party that invented and continues to refine voting fraud get away with such ridiculous hypocrisy? Stupid question as the MSM has tried to supress Rep voting by claiming for the past 6 months that the Dems were guranteed victory today.
A Rep hold in both the House and Senate will be as sweet as a Presidential win for me. The MSM bias during this cycle is the worst I've ever seen.
Posted by: blu at November 07, 2006 10:37 AM (MKP3x)
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I hope you report the results on these propositions. It is difficult for us outside of California to find out what happened.
Posted by: Jake at November 07, 2006 06:10 PM (V6rxT)
Posted by: Scof at November 07, 2006 03:48 PM (a3fqn)
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I early voted on Halloween. It was at the library. I thought about checking out a book, but then I didn't. Afterwards, I went trick-or-treating at a church fair. The candy was lackluster; the hot dogs were excellent.
Posted by: Leif at November 07, 2006 03:55 PM (tYFtb)
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We absentee voted in MO. The funny thing was they sent me a military ballot and my husband a regular one, which meant he had to get it notarized. No big deal, but it seems they should've known which one to send to him.
Posted by: Sarah at November 07, 2006 04:18 PM (7Wklx)
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I voted before work in my pajamas at 6:30AM.
My senate vote went to Tom Kean. The Democrat incumbant is one more in the culture of corruption the state democrats seem to embrace, but NJ voters are stupid and will probably re-elect him despite this.
I didn't vote down-the line Republican, my congressman (who has no detectable threat) had been very responsive to a couple of issues I've written to him about, and despite being a democrat, I'm happy with Rush Holt (NJ) so he earned my vote.
Township committee had no republican challengers so I wrote myself in.
I was the 2nd person to vote from my district, my wife was the first, that place was empty aside from the election volunteers at 6:30AM.
I can't wait to see the results from across the country, though I fear the outcome.
Posted by: Rob at November 07, 2006 05:40 PM (Q2xwR)
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What a bunch of homos. I went to the polls, and voted with the unwashed. In deference to them, I too was unwashed and just off a bike ride, plus the Santa Annas are blowing so it was about 80, nice and stinky.
At the polling place where I had voted the last two times, I found that I no longer vote there. Big fucking surprise, I've been moved a half dozen times in the eight years I've lived here. Went home and fucked with the San Diego County BOE website until it shit out my current polling place. That took about a half hour.
Went to the newly remodled library two blocks away, and wandered around until I found the polls. Not a single fucking sign in front of the bibliotheka, but inside I was efficiently directed to the correct precinct by freshly scrubbed eager types. After making me sign by my name, I was handed a smartcard, which I plugged into the first free Diebold touchscreen machine where I voted the straight Annikan ticket with one deviation. Did I mention that I was between a woman in her ninties who was reading the ballot aloud, very annoying, and some foreign fuck who was having trouble reading at all, while he was sneezing and hacking all over me? Well I was.
After finishing my selections, and leaving my neighbors struggling with the tech side of things, I handed my smartcard back to the fetching gal at the table, and requested a handful of hand sanitizer. They had none. I went home and washed.
In the interest of full disclosure. Diebolds is headquartered in my hometown, Canton, Ohio. That is unless they've gotten smart like me and moved on. What a moneymaker this wheez must be for them. It wasn't much easier than filling in the little circle on the scan sheet.
Posted by: Casca at November 07, 2006 05:52 PM (2gORp)
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You shoulda voted absentee in Canton; maybe your vote might have meant something.
Posted by: shelly at November 07, 2006 06:43 PM (SLFj+)
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But then, who can really concentrate on this meaningless stuff when really important news is breaking - like Brittany Spears kissing off her asshole dependent?
Posted by: shelly at November 07, 2006 06:47 PM (SLFj+)
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I would have voted for you Rob.
I just voted. Brisk business at my polling place, but no lines. And no problems.
Fox just announced DeWine lost, Menendez won, and Santorum lost. As I predicted so far.
Posted by: annika at November 07, 2006 06:48 PM (qQD4Q)
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Hello, I noticed the huge number of replys in the LGF blog. I voted absentee a while ago. I'm from Maryland and voted for Steele and am hoping that my one vote will turn the tide for him!
Posted by: Drake Steele at November 07, 2006 06:50 PM (+vXQY)
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ELECTION PREDICTION:
IF THE DEMS WIN, THEN THE ENEMY WILL HAND OUT CANDY IN GAZA JUST LIKE THEY DID ON 9/11.
Posted by: reliapundit at November 07, 2006 07:18 PM (wQPyA)
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I was one of the unwashed voting the straight annika ticket after a few hours of sheetrocking my kitchen. I especially voted a BIG NO for a special new $150 million library in downtown Oakland billing property owners an additional $500 fucking each per year for 30 years knowing they would not be able to finish the motherfucker without going way over budget in a million fucking years. FUCK THEM ALL TO FUCKING HELL!
Posted by: d-rod at November 07, 2006 07:30 PM (A7mUo)
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Shelly, as you know, minor league ballot box stuffing is not beneath me, however in this case it would have been pissing in the wind. Effort is admirable, accomplishment is valuable.
Posted by: Casca at November 07, 2006 07:41 PM (2gORp)
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I spent the a.m. w/ my ballot guides and the computer, researching candidates and issues and marking the guides w/ my votes in bright red Sharpie. I liked the Diebold machine. It was quick and easy. I waited for my illiterate neighbor to come banging on my door at dinner time, like she did in '04, cursing her 41-year-old son who wasn't home from work in time to take her to the polls. It would've taken forever to talk her through the ballot so I'm glad she was covered this time.
Posted by: Joules at November 09, 2006 11:18 PM (u4CYb)
Memo To The Disgruntled Pro-Life Voter
Along the same lines as my "Memo To The Disgruntled Independent Voter" below, I have a message for those voters whose main issue is opposition to abortion.
What are you doing thinking about staying home tomorrow? I understand your frustration at Bush, and the Republicans, and their betrayal of conservative values. But I also know that a Democratic Congress will lead directly to fewer restrictions on abortion, and more pro-abortion federal judges. Maybe you're okay with that, but I won't have that vote on my conscience.
If you say you're pro-life, your only choice is to vote — and to vote Republican. Staying home is not an option.
Memo To The Disgruntled Independent Voter
I agree that the number one issue in tomorrow's election is the war in Iraq. I also agree that things are not going well over there, and it's time for a change. I understand that a lot of independent voters want to give the Democrats a try, with the hope that maybe they can do better than Bush in what seems like a no win situation. Believe me, I share your frustration.
But remember, not all change is good. Sometimes things can change for the worse. Please read Frederick Kagan's column in the Weekly Standard. Here's a key excerpt.
The pullback of U.S. forces to their bases will not reduce the sectarian conflict . . . . It will increase it. Death squads on both sides will become more active. Large-scale ethnic and sectarian cleansing will begin as each side attempts to establish homogeneous enclaves where there are now mixed communities. Atrocities will mount, as they always do in ethnic cleansing operations. Iraqis who have cooperated with the Americans will be targeted by radicals on both sides. Some of them will try to flee with the American units. American troops will watch helplessly as death squads execute women and children. Pictures of this will play constantly on Al Jazeera. Prominent "collaborators," with whom our soldiers and leaders worked, will be publicly executed. Crowds of refugees could overwhelm not merely Iraq's neighbors but also the FOBs themselves. Soldiers will have to hold off fearful, tearful, and dangerous mobs. Again, endless photographs and video footage of all this will play constantly. Before long, it will probably prove necessary to remove the embedded U.S. troops from the Iraqi military units. The situation will become too dangerous; the Iraqis will increasingly resent the restraint the embeds place on their actions; and the U.S. military will become fearful of being implicated in death-squad activity. It is a matter of chance whether the embedded troops are pulled before any are kidnapped or taken prisoner by Iraqi military units turning bad or being infiltrated by radicals.
. . . There will be no "decent interval" here during which we withdraw in reasonably good order--the withdrawal itself is likely to occur in the midst of rising violence. Instead of pictures of Americans on the embassy roof in Saigon, we will see images of Iraqi death squads at work with U.S. troops staying on their bases nearby. And let us not forget that in the world of Al Jazeera, we will be accused of encouraging those death squads. The overall result will be searing and scarring. The damage to the morale of the military could be far greater than what will result from burdening soldiers with longer or more frequent tours of duty in a stepped-up effort to achieve victory. Those who are concerned about the well-being of the Army should fear defeat of this type more than anything.
We know these things to be possible, because they've happened before: after Vietnam.
Do you want your vote to be responsible for the reign of terror that will inevitably follow our retreat from Iraq? I know no matter how pissed I am at the mistakes and the lack of progress, I don't want that blood on my conscience.
There is no third way; there is only defeat or victory. And thus the choice tomorrow is clear, because you know what the Democrats want to do. Even if you don't believe the Democrats want us to lose, you should give serious thought to whether you want us to lose, and to what would happen if we were to begin withdrawing forces from Iraq now, when they're needed there most.
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We can stop terrorists, but we can't stop a civil war; just get caught up in it.
Posted by: Talmadge East at November 06, 2006 03:39 PM (yeLux)
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Annika,
I don't think the choices are quite as limited as you would like to believe thereby presenting you with only one voting option. I heard Kagan on the Lehrer show the other night and thought he was right on the mark. He sounded incredibly informed and reasonable and what you reprint seems to be as well.
I don't think he would agree with your choice of what losing means or what a victory might look like. Or even using these simplifications to describe any outcome.
I am at a loss to conceive of a way by which we might "fix" this situation. This is hardly the same as winning. Nor do I think pulling out would be a loss (since we really aren't fighting anybody in particular; certainly not an enemy that presented a threat to America) as much as it would be a tragedy of immense proportion tacked onto the current tragedy that is ongoing and also major. It would be the acknowledgement of a blunder of immense proportion: a foreign policy agenda that was, as many knew from the start, doomed by its hubris, ignorance , craven wish for revenge and shallow analysis of the nature of the forces that attacked America .
Bush and his cronies have broken something and rendered it unfixable. The horrific miscalculations that they employed as the basis for the invasion and the resolution they envisioned will be treated by history as a blunder on a scale never seen before in this nationÂ’s short history. We cannot "win" if winning means installing an "elected" government that will have the will and means to enforce the rule of law over this culturally diverse nation which is infected with the deep and irreconcible religious and cultural differences. No rule of law will succeeded unless a brutal tyrant commanding a loyal military and secret police can be resurrected. Or a colonial power is found that is willing to fully occupy Iraq with 5-7 hundred thousand troops, crush the resistance and then provides ongoing and open-ended support for an unpopular government as the British did too many times to mention.
Needless to say neither of these two scenarios is going to happen.
The Dem's will talk pull-out and may also may try diplomatic initiatives with neighbors, especially Iran and quite possible it will all come to nothing and two years from now they country will be just as bogged down as now. But what they wonÂ’t do is simply abandon Iraq. They, like you, would not want the consequences on their conscience.
I am very pessimistic. I see no way to right this wrong with out a continuation of the bloodshed and I have no hope of a substantive change in the status of the Iraqi government.
Part of me would like the see the balance in the house and senate maintained for another two years insuring a Democratic victory in '08. W is rapidly becoming megalomaniacal and so distant from reality that his total and through meltdown with out any help from a powershft would be gratifying
Posted by: Strawman at November 06, 2006 07:12 PM (9ySL4)
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Thanks for the reminder Annika.
I know almost nothing about military strategy, and I bet the strawman knows about as little as I do.
The majority of people in the military seem to agree with your analysis. Shouldn't their expertise be given some credence? Sure you can find a handful who disagree, but in the main, read the mil bloggers ...
btw, I have a new url for things you should do
Posted by: irishlass at November 07, 2006 09:49 AM (BPJO6)
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Why write "elected?" There is no proof whatsoever of rigged voting in the Iraq elections. There is more likely more voting fraud perpetuated by American Democrats than there was by those in Iraq.
Posted by: blu at November 07, 2006 10:34 AM (MKP3x)
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BLu,
I didn't say voting fraud. I was watching a documentary as I mentioned the other night made by a women who spent 6 months with various Iraqi families leading up to the election and the aftermath. One family, educated people, father a doctor sat watching TV one night belitteling Bush's statements about fighting them in Bagdad not in Austin and laughing also about the puppet government the US installed.
I don't really know too much about the process by which candidates were certified which is, I suppose, as important as the vote casting process if you want to evaluate the Democratic process. So I based my comment on this Iraqi doctor's comment. Prolly no better than anything you have to offer I'm sure.
Posted by: Strawman at November 07, 2006 11:25 AM (9ySL4)
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Well, except that the entire international community was watching and evaluating the Iraq elections. There were no major problems found. (Luckily, Jimmy Carter wasn't in charge because as we know he certified Chavez's election despite his party's Nazi-like tactics and obvious and real intimidation of his rivals. But, then again, Dems love their Commies.)
And, of course, the other obvious comment is who did put together your documentary. If it was done by a left-winger or PBS, there is a good chance it was blatantly and unashamedly bias and probably full of errors. Thank God Michael Moore really raised the bar for the documentary....
Posted by: blu at November 07, 2006 11:59 AM (MKP3x)
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Blu,
The money for the documentary was some small funding organizations. I know the producer. This was a simple follow people around and hear what they have to say. Follow people around and observe the conditions of their lives, no commentary, no editorializing. You, Blu, if you cared to, could see it for your self. Without too much effort most things of this nature are DL able. Title is "My COuntry, My COuntry"
Rather than telling me how bad the barn smells inside, why don't you go on in.
Nice to see my boy Danny Ortega making a comeback! BTW, did you know Nicaragua is only a two day march from Texas? I heard that nit wit Ronny Raygun on NPR this morning in a program about Ortega. Sound familiar? The Republicans have using those fear tactics forever. What would they do without fear?
Posted by: Strawman at November 07, 2006 02:09 PM (9ySL4)
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More interestingly, did you hear that he (Ortega) converted to Catholicism?
Posted by: blu at November 07, 2006 02:28 PM (MKP3x)
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No, I had not! Pretty weird. Does that mean he won't try to reverse the total ban on abortion they passed last month?
Posted by: Strawman at November 07, 2006 03:06 PM (9ySL4)
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I think that he was campaigning like he wouldn't...but politicians are politicians in every country. So, who knows.
Posted by: blu at November 07, 2006 03:10 PM (MKP3x)
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"I don't want that blood on my conscience."
This sounds a bit too strident, blame-transferring, and fear-instilling. The situation is probably already beyond restoration, so staying for 4 more years will likely accomplish little.
The Administration blundered too many times, from WMD deception and losing Bin Laden, to Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, and resurgent Taliban, and Iraqi militias.
Posted by: will at November 07, 2006 07:49 PM (h7Ciu)
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This is the mantra that scares the hell out of me
Alcee L. Hastings Chairman of the Intelligence committee
Alcee L. Hastings Chairman of the Intelligence committee
Alcee L. Hastings Chairman of the Intelligence committee
He was impeached and removed from his federal judgeship in 1989 for conspiring to take a $150,000 bribe and give light sentences to two convicted swindlers.
Posted by: Jake at November 05, 2006 04:03 PM (V6rxT)
Posted by: annika at November 05, 2006 08:33 PM (OBxeU)
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Here's an example of a reply I sent to anyone who sent me propaganda about fradulent elections when the Repubs have won.
IF THE DEMOIDS GAIN ANY SEATS IN THE HOUSE IT'S ONLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE GENIUSES LIKE NANCY PELOSI AND JOHN KERRY RIGGING THE ELECTIONS!!! DON'T FORGET THE DEMONCRATS OPPOSED IRAQ'S LIBERATION AND THEY WOULD LOVE FOR SADDAM TO STILL BE RULING THE COUNTRY INSTEAD OF HANGING FROM A TREE FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!!
AND THE DOW IS OVER 12,500%#$@%^!!!
Posted by: d-rod at November 06, 2006 09:23 AM (d7VOh)
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Oh--I was trying to _forget_ Nancy Pelosi from San Francisco so I could keep focused on my work today.
Posted by: Joules at November 06, 2006 11:25 AM (u4CYb)
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Pelosi and the Dems are already beginning the mantra about "voting irregularities." This time they are complaining about issues with electronic voting. You know the electronic fix that they clamored for after their idiot voters couldn't figure out a very, very, very simple ballot - a ballot with which 7-year old children had no problem.
Recent polls have them reeling. So, they are starting usual Dem bullshit. If they don't win, they will say it was because the election was "stolen." Sound familiar? These guys don't like Democracy unless they get the outcome they want.
They may win, but they are pathetic.
Posted by: blu at November 06, 2006 01:50 PM (IDpQp)
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Denny Hastert knew bout Mark Foley; did nothing.
Denny Hastert knew bout Mark Foley; did nothing.
Denny Hastert knew bout Mark Foley; did nothing.
Posted by: Talmadge East at November 06, 2006 03:41 PM (yeLux)
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Talmadge,
You managed to be grammatically incorrect three times in a row.
Posted by: blu at November 06, 2006 05:00 PM (IDpQp)
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Nancy Pelosi leads the Democrats with a fiery style that could make her the first woman Speaker of the House.
Posted by: Diamonds at November 07, 2006 02:44 PM (GY5SM)
I Go On The Record — Update
On Tuesday I went on the record, saying that the Democrats will pick up five Senate seats to split the upper house 50/50. I just spent the last hour re-analyzing the latest polls, and I stand by that prediction.
Democrats will gain seats in Missouri, Montana, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Rhode Island. Republicans will fail to take over Democratic seats in Maryland, New Jersey and Minnesota. Republicans will hold on to their seats in Virginia and Tennessee.
The races where I might be wrong are, of course, the hotly contested Montana and Missouri elections.
Montana perplexes me. I don't know enough about the issues to say why, but Democrat Tester has consistently polled ahead of Republican Burns since April. It might be Tester's haircut. Tester's ads portray him as a regular guy, someone you could have a beer with. By contrast, Burns seems more like, well, Mr. Burns. The race is still close. The latest Zogby poll has Burns down by a percentage point. But I'm still calling it for Tester. I think Montanans are turned off by Burns' alleged Abramoff connections, and Tester is a native who looks the part. I also think you can probably trust Montana poll numbers more than you would some other state's.
In Missouri, Republican incumbent Jim Talent is polling about three points behind Democrat Claire McCaskill. The polls have switched back and forth all year between the two candidates. If I'm wrong about any of my predictions, Missouri is likely to be the one. But I think Missouri is a weird state; it seems so evenly split between red and blue. One thing I think McCaskill has going for her is that there are large urban areas where the Democrats can use fraud to add a few unearned points to her total. Talent seems like a good guy though, and I hope he wins.
I could also be wrong about Virginia. I predict Republican incumbent George Allen will hold on to win, despite recent polls showing Democrat Jim Webb with a one to five point advantage. I'm sticking with Allen because I trust Virginia is at heart a conservative state, and I don't trust the pollsters there. When was the last time a Democrat won a national election in Virginia? Okay, Chuck Robb, but he was a centrist. Webb may have a certain appeal to conservatives, but if voting for him means handing the Senate over to the Democrats, I think Virginians will do the right thing.
Finally, I'm still sticking with my prediction that Maryland's open Senate seat will remain in Democrat hands. When was the last time a Republican won a national election in Maryland? And my fraud theory holds here too. I really hope Steele wins, though. After what they've done and said about him, Steele's Democrat critics ought to wear sheets and hoods. It's disgusting.
My best case scenario for Republicans has them maintaining a Senate majority by three seats. Santorum, DeWine and Chafee are toast. But if Steele, Talent and Burns win, there's our three seats. Of course I'm still assuming that Allen and Corker win Virginia and Tennessee, but I think they will.
The House is way too complicated for me to analyze, so like I said before: trust Gerrymandering.
Update: See how far out on a limb I am? Only one guy at the Weekly Standard agrees with me.
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I think the Republicans will pick up seats both in the Senate and the House. It will be a Demoblowout.
Posted by: Jake at November 04, 2006 04:32 PM (V6rxT)
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The folks at The Weekly Standard are split on on whether Reps keep the Senate. They are nearly unanimous that the Dems will pick up anywhere from 20 to 35 house seats; and, thus, gain control of the House.
I'm not quite as bleak: I think we keep the Sentate (barely), but have a hard time seeing how we keep the House when are having to compete at this late date in traditionally Red states that have voted overwhelmingly for Bush.
There have just been too many "October Surprises" in the MSM this year. Give the MSM credit, though, they carried the Dems water well this time and the Reps never played good offense.
Posted by: blu at November 04, 2006 07:46 PM (IDpQp)
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Jake, as Shelly would say if he was sentient, from your lips to God's ears.
In the words of Allan Rickman in Bob Roberts, "I am going to pray". If you've never seen it, it's a deliciously classic liberal attempt to lampoon conservatives, that has exactly the opposite effect.
Posted by: Casca at November 05, 2006 09:53 AM (2gORp)
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I think the Demotards will still pull off the House.
BUT if they don't, just think how much fun it will be ragging their ass for the next two years.
Posted by: kyle8 at November 05, 2006 02:50 PM (4oxBZ)
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Well, my husband and I did our part to keep Missouri...now we wait.
Posted by: Sarah at November 06, 2006 06:10 AM (7Wklx)
6 When was the last time a Democrat won a national election in Virginia? Okay, Chuck Robb, but he was a centrist.
So winning the Governor's mansion is irrelevant?
Posted by: djw at November 08, 2006 11:12 AM (aFBrc)
What Have They Done With Nancy?
Drudge has been running this story about Where's Nancy? He claims that Nancy Pelosi has been hidden from public appearances since October 21, two weeks ago. I don't doubt it. She's as bad for the the Democratic Party's PR as John Kerry, only twice as dumb.
The woman who would be speaker, Nancy Pelosi, has oddly stayed out of the national spotlight in the week leading up to the big vote.
The high profile, potentially history-making democrat has turned low-key.
The last photo of vanishing Pelosi on the wires was from an October 21 fundraiser.
And since Pelosi appeared on the controversial October 22 broadcast of 60 MINUTES, national TV hits have all but been nonexistent.
[Pelosi did appear on CNBC's On the Money on 10/24 and on ABC on 10/26, as THINK PROGRESS points out. But the sightings have dramatically dwindled.]
Former Speaker of the House, Republican Newt Gingrich believes he knows one reason why the congresswoman has largely dropped out of public sight ever since 60 MINUTES.
"It seems clear that some Americans have glimpsed a future with her third in line for the presidency, and they don't like what they see," says Gingrich. "She has become largely invisible as a result."
A source close to the congresswoman explains she has been busy behind the scenes.
Pelosi made a brief public appearance with Bill Clinton this week in San Francisco.
After providing a long schedule of her weekend events, a Pelosi aide added that her favorite stop was the taping of a World Wrestling Entertainment podcast on the importance of young people voting, the WHITE HOUSE BULLETIN reports.
I'm wondering, if Nancy's the leader of her party, and she's being held out of sight, who's in charge? Did she take herself out of circulation? Or if not, who did? Who's the secret figure behind the scenes, who had the power to tell the House Democratic Leader to shut the hell up during the two weeks before the election? And what does that tell you about the Democrats in general? There's something they don't want you to know.
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Howard Dean and Harry Reid have also disappeared. What is in store for America when Democrat leaders have to be in hiding in order to win elections?
Posted by: Jake at November 03, 2006 06:42 PM (V6rxT)
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Barbara Boxer = dumb
Nancy Pelosi = dumber
I'm amazed that Dems are willing to accuse Bush of being dumb while these two idiots are still part of the Congress. Bush is a fucking curious as hell genius compared to these two morons.
Posted by: blu at November 03, 2006 06:45 PM (IDpQp)
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Hey,
Did you guys run out of meth or something? I'm fairly certain you don't know what you're talking about.
You need a brain boost. Call Rev. Ted. He'll hook you up!
Posted by: docmakr at November 03, 2006 10:27 PM (qKXCy)
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This can only be James Carville, the Anti-Christ, figuring out that if you are running AGAINST Bush you don't need a candidate.
Maybe he's right; we'll see just how right Tuesday night.
Posted by: shelly at November 04, 2006 03:38 AM (SLFj+)
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Nancy is still resting in soil of her homeland after her blood feasting on Halloween.
Hey, Annie, do you read much fantasy? I am posting from the World Fantasy Convention in Austin. Its not a fan convention its a writers convention. I am trying to make contacts so I can sell some of my stuff.
I have met many leading fantasy writers including
Micheal Moorcock and David Drake.
Posted by: kyle8 at November 04, 2006 08:05 AM (CGown)
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Oddly enough, we haven't seen national coverage of Hastert either. Or Boehner. Or even Delay, the most influential Republican congressman until recently. And what about Frist?
You're right, it seems the party leaders are letting the local races dominate.
Posted by: will at November 04, 2006 09:12 AM (h7Ciu)
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I thought I heard Frist was no longer Senate Majority Leader...
Posted by: Scof at November 04, 2006 10:25 AM (LvTNO)
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Mainstream America doesn't like the Pelosi wing of the Democratic party. They only appeal to the Moveon and DailyKos Bush-hating nutcases.
The Democrats know this and are trying to pull a fast one on America by hiding the gruesome side of the Democratic party and will only release the beasts AFTER they secure their victory.
It won't happen though. They are their own worst enemy.
Posted by: Rob at November 04, 2006 10:26 AM (Q2xwR)
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Odd that Drudge should quote Newt Gingrich. He's the perfect example of what not to do when you become Speaker of the House. Like Pelosi, nobody knew who Gingrich was when the Republicans took the House in 1994.
He immediately commenced to act as if he somebody had died and made him king. People didn't much like that act. Don't expect a repeat from Pelosi. She's smarter than that.
Posted by: Pug at November 04, 2006 10:31 AM (P9o6O)
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Pug did you just use the word smart and Pelosi in the same sentence?
You were joking, right? Right?...........
Posted by: blu at November 04, 2006 12:10 PM (IDpQp)
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Ah, Pug, another will/strawfuck sock? Eh, who cares.
There are immutable laws to politics as there are to physics, and economics. Rotten buroughs eventually produce awful politicians, no matter the party, because there is no competition. That's the situation in California today. If the house is lost, Boehner will win it back in '08, and then he will grind Pelosi and company as is fitting.
Posted by: Casca at November 05, 2006 10:08 AM (2gORp)
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Pelosi's political views are systemically intertwined with her decisively socialist affiliations. She has served on the executive committee of the Progressive Caucus, a socialist-leaning organization that, until 1999, was hosted by the Democratic Socialists Of America.
Posted by: RealEstateAgent at November 06, 2006 02:19 AM (UaqnT)
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Nancy showed up over the weekend to do the media shows
and pics would seem to explain her absense as she went and had a facial "tune up"
I think she's in the Nip and Tuck Olympics with Joan Rivers!
Posted by: Darleen at November 06, 2006 05:16 PM (cXz8w)
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Nancy is the perfect face for the Dem Party: fake, dumb, ill-informed, socialist leaning, wealthly (inherited/unearned),elitist, and dishonest.
Posted by: blu at November 07, 2006 11:10 AM (MKP3x)
If you vote for Democrats in this election, you might think youre voting for a perfectly nice centrist Democrat, but the "Anti-war" wing of leftist thought will take that perfectly nice candidate that you voted for and use it as evidence that their side in the argument is actually perferred by Americans. Not the "centrist American" side, but the loathesome "We hate America" side. Your vote will be used to prove it.
They will take that protest vote of yours to argue "America is in descent", that our sins have finally caught up with us and we need to be sorry for all the evil we have done in the world, and look at all the people who agree with us! They will argue that fundamental changes in our country are necessary to make up for our crimes of the past, that our its our military is actually what causes wars, that people in the military should be prosecuted and they are what causes other people in the world to hate us and not our lovely and socially relevent "pop-culture".
. . . If Democrats are tossed yet another defeat this time, they will learn. They will get the message. They will remove the leech of "Anti-war" from their crotch and we might start to see Democrats like Harry Truman again. Democrats who don't apologize for America or being an American.
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I'm playing "God Bless America" on the CD player. Off to read a couple of articles in National Review and I'll have my Church of Conservatism needs met for the week.
Posted by: Joules at November 02, 2006 04:10 PM (u4CYb)
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When the Democrats go down in flames in this election, I hope there is an another group that learns its lesson.
For the past three elections, MSM has manipulated the news, sabotaged our anti-terrorism efforts and attempted to destroy our economy. They have done all this to force left-wing rule down the throats of all Americans.
MSM has ignored falling revenues, cancelled subscriptions, decreasing viewers, and massive media layoffs. Maybe after losing three straight elections, MSM will join America again and just report the news.
Posted by: Jake at November 02, 2006 04:39 PM (V6rxT)
Posted by: annika at November 03, 2006 07:12 AM (qQD4Q)
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The Hate-America crowd will not be purged from the Demoncrat party until the Vietnam generation and their children are dead. It is an article of faith among them, that all who carried the burden of that war were ignorant murderers, rapists, and baby killers... you know, what Kerry said.
Don't worry, we might start whacking these NGCS's any day now.
Posted by: Casca at November 03, 2006 07:55 AM (2gORp)
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"They will remove the leech of "Anti-war" from their crotch"
leech and crotch...hmmm...yes, yes he must be talking about Democrats
...and looks like it will be Michigan-Louisville in Glendale for the BCS, whodathunk?
Posted by: Scof at November 03, 2006 11:59 AM (a3fqn)
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Wow! Did Michagoose already beat OSU? I musta lost track of the date - or the year.
Nah, I'm afraid BIG RED will be in Glendale, along with some once beaten team.
I'm also afraid that the best Michigan could possibly hope for is Pasadena, where once again, USC will hand you your ass and eat your lunch.
Posted by: shelly at November 03, 2006 02:16 PM (SLFj+)
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"It is an article of faith that all who carried the burden of that war were ignorant murderers, rapists, and baby killers... "
You said it Casca.
Now the Iraq invaders are the newest rendition of this noble American tradition.
Posted by: Strawman at November 03, 2006 02:47 PM (9ySL4)
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"Murderers, rapists, and baby killers" are criminals and are treated such in our military. Hopefully, Straw, you are not suggesting that our military in Iraq engages in this sort of behavior as a general rule. If you are, then you are both reprehensible and stunningly ignorant. There is no military in the world that does anymore to root out corruption and criminality in its ranks than does the US military.
The lie that this was common and accepted in Vietnam is just another Left-wing myth perpetuated by the likes of John Kerry and other America haters.
Posted by: blu at November 03, 2006 04:31 PM (IDpQp)
Posted by: Mike@CopTheTruth at November 03, 2006 05:17 PM (YadGF)
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Loiusville for the nat'l championship, lol, that's a good one!
Posted by: annika at November 03, 2006 05:29 PM (qQD4Q)
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Blu,
We've had this discussion before. I am sure you know exactly what I mean. The cruelty in VN and the criminality of many. not most, many GI's is well known. Remember I am VN vet age, lost friends and relatives in this confilict, repatriated ABC News' vienamese employees to my home town, (my sister was in charge of ABC's camp Pendleton repatriation station where 4000 South Vietnamese employees were put up on the way to being place in jobs and given citizenship) I have some direct knowledge.
Posted by: Strawman at November 03, 2006 06:07 PM (9ySL4)
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As an archivist of Straw's BS, I'm getting a sense of deja vu again. I'm about as touched by his "compassion" towards South Vietnamese refugees as much as Macaulay Culkin was during a visit to the Neverland Ranch.
[Your blowing smoke out your ass. My sister worked for ABC news and was in charge of resettling the 3000 "dependents" as they were called, of the network. CBS and NBC had similar numbers. The network employees and their families were given some kind of automatic citizenship after Saigon fell since they would have been killed or imprisioned by the ARVN as traitors and collaborators. The networks gave them money and resources including job placement. I met many of them who were resettled in the NY area. These are the people you heard interviewed. You think they are an unbiased bunch? They lived well, benefitted from the occupation and sold out their country.]
BTW, from the same thread, Straw displays his sincere adulation for our veterans:
[Killerjoe,
I guess the basic disagreement is that the N. Vietnamese were not our enemy until we invaded their country. Sort of like the Iraqi people who are fighting back now just like you would if your country were invaded. We are the most aggressive fucks the world has seen since the fall of the British Empire. I felt sorry for the people of Vietnam, all of them. We ruined their country and killed millions doing it. You no doubt helped and are still proud of it. You should try and get that off your chest. That is what Kerry did upon coming home. He had the courage to say the killing was a travesty bordering on the criminal; our government lied about the justification for war, and the plan, like BushÂ’s was a joke. You had the courage to kill in the course of invading a country that did you and America no harm and you have stayed ignorant of the history to this day. WhoÂ’s the dumb scumbag?]
-From Strawman's (formerly known as Mike) Greatest Hits, Volume 1
Posted by: reagan80 at November 03, 2006 08:02 PM (dFOlH)
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How the hell did I not know about this guy's blog before? I'm pretty damn impressed. He needs to get more pimpage!
Posted by: TBinSTL at November 04, 2006 12:40 AM (bYmT0)
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Varifrank's article sounds like the warning's of the strategist who thought up "Contract with America", a real life surprise pulled on the American people.
With Bush's and the GOP's abysmal poll numbers, even a "war president" and his cohorts won't have enough influence to stem the tide of change. We'll see if the Republicans take to whining, as they had complained the Democrats had done.
Being an independent before an election is like being at ringside seat at a title match. Pass the popcorn!
Posted by: will at November 04, 2006 09:20 AM (h7Ciu)
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Hey Raygun,
He called you a pimp, for me no less! Terrific. I thank you for reposting my relitively well written but better reasoned posts. (get the invoice in for the archivist fee before the end of the year, OK?) They were to the point when I wrote them and have aged well as we have seen the wonderful progress of the Bush plan in the ME. (I think you mistook my sentiment about the South VN coming to the US. I, like the ARVN, felt them to be traitors and thought they should have stayed and been rehabilatated just as you my friend would have shot, I mean rehabilitated, a colonist in Boston who gave material and personal support to the British) Bravo for Bush. I certainly feeling good and way safer, how about you Ray? Feeling good? Feeling lees scared out of you runny underware? THe advances in limb and face reconstruction are great, the C-147's outfitted as ICU's are really something to see, and the boost to the wheelchair rugby and basketball leagues is pushing them closer to a contract with ESPN. I applaud it all. You too, right? ANd Blu tells me the wonderful economic tide that's flowing in here in the states will be rising Iraq's boats soon as well. New housing is just around the corner, Parsons is knocking out thoses hospitals and police stations like my mom's toll house cookies! Hezzbolla and Hammas are theowing in the towel and making lots of con cessions, the Saudi's are playing a big part too. They are exerting lot's of clout and sending peacemakers to twist a few arms. Condi's racking up frequent flyer miles and soon will take a few free weeks in Bali, and how about Rummy, boy he just keeps hitting them out of the park. Every new strategy he tries wow's em. PAcified Bagdad's ass didn't he? I hear they added ten square meters to the green zone and put up a new gaurd tower.
Gotta sign off before I run outa breath, Iraq is amazing! My kid is thinking of appling to the University for graduate work (poly sci major) and hthen might establish residencey since ther new democracy has such opportunity to do some good in the region. Amaazing! Gotta go, my palms are getting raw from the clapping.
Oh, the generals and Richard Perle? Fuckem what do they know!
Posted by: Strawman at November 04, 2006 11:53 AM (9ySL4)
You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you donÂ’t, you get stuck in Iraq.
Sen. John McCain:
If you offend somebody, whether you intend to or not, you should apologize.
Sen. John Kerry:
I apologize to no one for my criticism of the President and his broken policy.
Listen, I want to believe the argument that John Kerry didn't really mean to insult our all volunteer military servicemen and women. If it were any other guy, without John Kerry's history, I might be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
But given that John Kerry began his political career by throwing his military ribbons over the White House fence in protest over a military service which he claimed led to widespread and systematic atrocities — which he later admitted that he never witnessed, and which were later proven to have been completely made up — I sincerely doubt that his "explanation" is genuine.
If John Kerry intended to insult the president with his "botched joke," why then are the words "president" or "Bush" nowhere to be found within the text of that joke?
If John Kerry really fucked up the script so badly, why then didn't he immediately clarify himself? We've all been in that situation. When I mis-speak, and inadvertently give offense, that's what I do. It's customary, even through embarrassment, to say, "I'm sorry, what I meant to say was..." But Kerry didn't do that until the firestorm began this morning. Now that he's busted, it's a little hard to believe his denials.
Here's an instructive thought experiment. What if, instead of touching the third rail of conservative politics by insulting the troops, John Kerry's "botched joke" had imputed stupidity to African Americans? Would he then have apologized quickly and repeatedly? You bet your ass he would have, and he'd have done it based on John McCain's maxim I quoted above: "If you offend somebody, whether you intend to or not, you should apologize." The fact that John Kerry, even now after "admitting" he made a mistake, still refuses to apologize to the American military he claims to respect so much, is tantamount to insulting them a second time. He doesn't think they're worth the courtesy.
What really happened is that John Kerry had a "Dixie Chicks" moment. Like Natalie Maines in England, Kerry thought he had a sympathetic audience of liberal college students to whom he could pander, by sharing a little inside humor. "Heh, heh, I know you guys despise the military and think they're dummies. I do too. Ain't I cool? Vote for Angelides."
Should any of this matter? Probably not, since Kerry can't be voted out of office this year. (Personally, I think Kerry should be forced to resign from his seat on the Committee on Foreign Relations. Nobody with his history of undisguised contempt for American military personnel should be allowed to sit on such a committee, with that body's concomitant influence over the deployment of those same soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen.) But that's a different question from whether any of this will matter. And I hope it does. Not only because it may forestall the Democratic takeover I predicted earlier, but because Kerry's latest blunder probably and irrevocably scuttled any hope he might have had of trying for his party's nomination in '08. Democratic power brokers will never ever forgive him for this gaffe, nor should any of us.
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I'm a Veteran who left a prestigous private college after two year to join the US Army to fight in the first Gulf War.
After being medically separated for injuries sustained in combat, I earned a BS in Professional Writing. I now write complex documentation sets for real-time tactical command and control systems for network-centric warfighters. I doubt Mr. Kerry has a high-enough security clearance to even read the documents that I write, and even if he did, he'd have no f'ckin idea what they meant.
Maybe If I would have studied harder I wouldnÂ’t have ended up stuck in Iraq back in 1991. Maybe I could have made something more of myself.
Posted by: Robbie at October 31, 2006 09:36 PM (53jDZ)
Posted by: Jake at October 31, 2006 09:56 PM (V6rxT)
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The Kerry formuila for political success:
1. Open mouth;
2. Insert foot;
3. Shoot foot;
4. Deny that the foot is yours.
Posted by: shelly at November 01, 2006 03:36 AM (Eodj2)
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Kerry's an absolute idiot. Perhaps more people realize it now. Intellectualism is not a prerequisite for military service to your country. Valor is. We happen to have the smartest military in our history. (Even the founders would be envious)
I wish I had half the guts and brains these cats have!
Posted by: Mike C. at November 01, 2006 04:30 AM (YadGF)
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Kerry's explanation didn't make much sense to me. What he specifically said was that if you study hard, etc, you can "do well", implying that he was talking about doing well economically, and clearly referring to American youth as a class, not to future US Presidents as a class.
In any event, notice that in his explosive reaction, Kerry basically accused Republican political operatives of orchestrating the anger directed at him. He seems to have no clue that hundreds of thousands of people reacted to his words spontaneously, without having to be told what to think.
Posted by: david foster at November 01, 2006 07:25 AM (/Z304)
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Robbie you stupid fuck, you're clearly not smart enough to marry a rich woman, me either. I only involve myself with women who suck money out of me.
We should all face the facts. Kerry is a smart guy. If we were smart like him, we'd let some fucking loser carry the load. Someone poor common fuck who'd never go skiing in Gstad anyway.
Conscripts by Siegfreid Sassoon
‘FALL in, that awkward squad, and strike no more
Attractive attitudes! Dress by the right!
The luminous rich colours that you wore
Have changed to hueless khaki in the night.
Magic? WhatÂ’s magic got to do with you?
ThereÂ’s no such thing! BloodÂ’s red, and skies are blue.Â’
They gasped and sweated, marching up and down.
I drilled them till they cursed my raucous shout.
Love chucked his lute away and dropped his crown.
Rhyme got sore heels and wanted to fall out.
‘Left, right! Press on your butts!’ They looked at me
Reproachful; how I longed to set them free!
I gave them lectures on Defence, Attack;
They fidgeted and shuffled, yawned and sighed,
And boggled at my questions. Joy was slack,
And Wisdom gnawed his fingers, gloomy-eyed.
Young Fancy—how I loved him all the while—
Stared at his note-book with a rueful smile.
Their training done, I shipped them all to France,
Where most of those IÂ’d loved too well got killed.
Rapture and pale Enchantment and Romance,
And many a sickly, slender lord whoÂ’d filled
My soul long since with lutanies of sin,
Went home, because they couldnÂ’t stand the din.
But the kind, common ones that I despised
(Hardly a man of them IÂ’d count as friend),
What stubborn-hearted virtues they disguised!
They stood and played the hero to the end,
Won gold and silver medals bright with bars,
And marched resplendent home with crowns and stars.
Posted by: Casca at November 01, 2006 07:55 AM (Y7t14)
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I see the Rovian hand in all of this. No doubt a microchip was installed in the good Senator during operative treatment of his grievous wounds suffered in Vietnam, and Rove has once again reactivated it to control the mind of this good and honorable scion of elitist liberals.
LMAO, oh, if I could choose my enemy, it would be he.
Posted by: Casca at November 01, 2006 08:22 AM (Y7t14)
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Casca:
Kerry is paying for every dollar with his blood. His wife ignores him completely and will not appear in public with him unless movie stars are involved. She is forever telling people in front of Kerry that her dead husband is ten times the man that Kerry is. She probably has him on a tight weekly allowance.
No wonder Kerry looks and talks angry all of the time.
Posted by: Jake at November 01, 2006 08:45 AM (V6rxT)
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My boy, we all pay in blood when it comes to the fair sex. For all you civilians too fucking stupid to tell, my comments were all .
Posted by: Casca at November 01, 2006 08:51 AM (Y7t14)
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Jack Heinz was a star; he's have been President by now. For them that never knew it, he was a solid Republican, the Senator from Pennsylvania. I had the pleasure of knowing him; by the way, when she was young, she was slim and a knockout, and, most importantly, she kept her fucking mouth shut 'cause he had the purse strings.
If he was alive, we'd still have Pennsylvania solid Red. Life is so unfair. But then, the only "fair" I know is in Pomona.
Thank the stars for John Kerry!!! Send him out on the campaign trail again, PLEASE!!! I loved the Demo comment "He wasn't content to blow it in '04, he wants to blow '06, too".
(P.S. Casca, great poem. I guess they teach a little at OSU)
Posted by: shelly at November 01, 2006 09:03 AM (0Co69)
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Annika,
I don't often venture over here too much, but this is one of the best points I have heard on this matter:
What if, instead of touching the third rail of conservative politics by insulting the troops, John Kerry's "botched joke" had imputed stupidity to African Americans? Would he then have apologized quickly and repeatedly? You bet your ass he would have, and he'd have done it based on John McCain's maxim I quoted above: "If you offend somebody, whether you intend to or not, you should apologize."
You nailed it. Kudos!
Posted by: Billy at November 01, 2006 10:43 AM (SLFj+)
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In addition to the factual mistakes about the "education" (and socioeconomic class) of U.S. military personnel, Kerry misses the point about the innovation and creativity of U.S. servicemembers. For every bad apple the media focuses attention on, there are hundreds of young men and women coming up with clever and thoughtful solutions to not only tactical battlefield problems, but also cultural, social, humanitarian, and other "non-combat" crises and conflicts. The vast majority of these young people are going to come back and infuse the same thinking into their local communities well beyond their military service.
Posted by: Col Steve at November 01, 2006 02:25 PM (pj2h7)
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Forgive him? Forgive him? I LOVE him.
Hell, he deserves a medal (first one he ever really deserved).
RNC Most Valuable Player.
I think Karl Rove relly did insert a microchip in his brain and flipped the "off" switch at just the right time.
Posted by: shelly at November 01, 2006 03:56 PM (0Co69)
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NPR reported this evening that the text of the speech--text supplied by Kerry's people--included the words "President Bush." The reporter read the sentence, and if that really was the way it was originally written, it was a slight directed toward President Bush. Not that this makes Kerry look any better.
Posted by: Joules at November 01, 2006 10:09 PM (u4CYb)
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Kerry had his chance to just say "Here's what I intended to say, but I misspoke, and I am sorry for the mix-up".
Instead, he chose, in his haughty, pseudo-Franco manner to deny he had said it and to defend it, REFUSING to apologize.
By the way, there is nothing, absolutely NOTHING, more aggravating to a Jew than another Jew who refuses to acknowledge his heritage. Although he has allowed Massachusetts voters to believe that he is Irish, Kerry is NOT Irish, he is of Jewish descent. Fuck him and the ship he rode in on. (sic)
Posted by: Shelly at November 02, 2006 12:58 AM (YadGF)
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He's a twisted bizarre personality in the extreme. His egomania is Clintonesque.
Posted by: Casca at November 02, 2006 07:14 AM (Y7t14)
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Annika,
He made quite blunder. I can't really imagine that he set out to defame the employment prospects of the under achievers he migh have been addressing. He may be an idiot but that would rise to the level of ________?
He clearly was trying to make the equation:
"lazy ass no nothing, alcoholic national guard slacking Yale grad ignoramous= get us stuck in Iraqi criminal military adventure. True but not terribly relevant at this late date. America got the president they almost voted for. Serves the majority that elected the other guy right!
It was lame from the start and he should have done exactly what Shelly said.
Posted by: Strawman at November 02, 2006 08:36 AM (9ySL4)
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Here is what John Kerry should have said.
I appoligize to all service personel that were offended by my comment. I reviewed the transcript and understand why those words were offensive and I sincerely apologize that I uttered them. Those words do not reflect what I was trying to say. I was attempting to state that if you are an under achiever educationally like President Bush you will get us stuck in Iraq. In the interest of making this apology sincere, I must also admit that President BushÂ’s grades at Yale were slightly higher than mine so that even my intended meaning probably would have been offensive to many. I apologize for that also.
Posted by: Bob at November 02, 2006 08:52 AM (OPNg7)
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Straw,
In which Ivy League school did you complete your undergraduate and graduate degrees?
What's that? You got the famous GED certificate from the Marshall School for Adults. Wow!!
Just kidding you, Straw. But calling Bush dumb (or an ignoramus)is, well, dumb. His academic record was not mind-blowing, but it was better than both Lurch and Algore's. The guy has a fucking MBA from Harvard. He's just not a good speaker; and, let's face it, people from the South often sound a little dumb. The accent is not one that inspires confidence. It's not fair; but it's true.
It's just another one of those lies that the Left keeps repeating and, in this case, has managed to get many people to believe. (Funny, though not surprising, how the MSM has never widely reported on the academic mediocrity of Kerry and, the world's smartest man, Algore.)
Posted by: blu at November 02, 2006 11:13 AM (j8oa6)
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I have a son with autism and know how very true it is that there are people who have good intelligence but they aren't wired for good verbal skills. Frankly, it often doesn't feel right if a politician is too silver-tongued.
Posted by: Joules at November 02, 2006 03:05 PM (u4CYb)
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Blu,
I stand by my words. HArvard MBA not withstanding. This blankey everbody wraps him in is bullshit. " He just don't speak so good" is a rationale that is used to make Americas, who ain't the sharpest tack either, feel more secure.
I am a good judge of intelligence and this man is not too bright. He was passed from class to class with "passing" grades which were notices that he showed up, did a modicum of work, and was a presidents son. He did not fail. That is all you can say. Is his IQ over 120? I would guess it is and this means he knows what? That is all I am saying, he knows nothing of history, science, literature, economics, etc. If he did, regadless of how bad a public speaker he is, he could demonstrate a grasp of a subject and speak conversationally about it or answer a question that deviates an iota from his scripted remarks. You heard him when he was flogging the SS initiative? Not a wit of sense came out of his mouth when asked to explain any of it. The few people who brief him that have been candide have said in polite open ended sentences that they experienced him as not engaged. He would ask a few questions and say thanks.
Blu, you know as well as I that education is an ongoing process of inquery fueled by a love of knoweldge and curiosity. It leads us to read books, ask questions, and read more books. How do you find yourself defending a man who bragged that he didn't read books? They were so embarassed that this year his flacks can't tell you offen enough what the president is reading. Do honestly believe he can read Shakespeare? Would you bet against Kerry or Gore in a jeopardy game with George or a scrabble game?
He is a by the seat of his pants, bright guy who in spite of his background could not get anywhere in business in spite of being handed sweetheart deals. A fellow who partyed hard, liked cocaine and booze, became severly depressed as his life unraveled while his brothers succeded and hit bottom. Instead of lifiting himself up with self knoweldge and exhibiting some insight he took the bit of religion deep into his mouth, shook his head, whinneyed a little and imbibed another antidote to clear thinking and self esteem. How exactly he beacme the lackey and spokes model for the evangelicals and then nefarious neocons is a story we may never know, but that is what he is today. And as their policies fail before all our eyes he blinks, stands tall and like a wind up doll spouts the ridiculous without flinching
Posted by: Strawman at November 03, 2006 06:11 AM (9ySL4)
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I actually think he speaks pretty fluently about economics - especially macroeconomics. Currently, America is experiencing one of its best economics periods thanks, in part, to his economic policies. The Left doesn't like to remember the bad ol'days when Clinton left office. Let me remind you: the stock market had lost about half of its value. Only the Great Depression had more of a negative emotional impact on the Market. The Dow is now around 12,000. Bush also inherited a recession and then a few months into his Presidency 9/11 occurred, (another gift from Clinton) which was devastating to our economy for both real and psychological reasons. It is simply amazing that we've recovered to this point. We managed to do this while fighting the GWOT and retooling a military that Clinton had literally gutted. (If you want to know what Clinton did to our military, talk to somebody who was in the military during his Presidency. They HATE him. Bush, on the other hand, is loved by military personnel.)
As far as social security goes, I just think you are wrong. It's a complicated topic that he was trying to explain at a high level. The bottom line is that he was right and his opponents were wrong. Not only wrong: they lied and distored the economic reality and simply tried to scare old peole. It was disgusting, but, also, business as usual for the Left. SS is a less than a worthless social program. I want to spit every time I see my money stolen from me to be given some person that I don't even know. God help us, someday will see SS in the ash heap of history. Weaning Americans off it and into a system were people control their own money is better for individual investors, our economy, and is in the best tradition of our liberal capitalist system.
And, yes, I think he could read the Bard. I don't know, however, if he would make that choice. BTW, find me the quote where he said he didn't like to read. I do know that he said he doesn't bother much with the MSM. Who the fuck can blame him? The American paper of record, the NY Times, is a worthless, socialist rag that routinely prints lies, distortions, and, of course, national secrets all the while openly cheerleading for Democrats.
Posted by: blu at November 03, 2006 06:54 AM (IDpQp)
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"education is an ongoing process of inquery"
Hey strawman, why don't you "inquere" a little bit more on the subject of spelling?
; )
Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
Posted by: annika at November 03, 2006 06:58 AM (qQD4Q)
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Oh, Forfend, dearest Annka. Me thinks it was the fault of the hound that hath nibbled the spellcheck button to a fare-thee-well no bigger than a titmouses'cloaca which my great finger could not navigate. Apologies.
Blu,
Wrong,
Wrong,
Wrong.
Posted by: Strawman at November 03, 2006 07:54 AM (9ySL4)
I Go On The Record
I've been following the polls and the elections closely, but until now I've avoided making any predictions. Now, a week out, I'm ready to cut through all the MSM's pro-Democratic propaganda and all the pie-in-the-sky optimism from the right wing press.
Here are my predictions. The Senate looks tight, but I think it will take a miracle for the Republicans to retain control. By my calculations, it will be a 50/50 split after next Tuesday. Republicans will lose in MT, OH, NJ, PA and RI. I think Corker will beat Ford, keeping TN Republican, but I could be wrong about that. In MD, Steele deserves to win, and though I mistrust polls generally, they can't be that far off. I don't think Steele will do it.
An evenly divided Senate is a de facto Democratic majority, since there are enough turncoat RINOs in the Senate to do Harry Reid's bidding. The Dems also know how to play rough and they will insist on some sort of accomodation on committee chairs. Republican Senate leaders, never known for stiff spines, will cave in to these demands.
As for the House, I have just two words for you: trust Gerrymandering. The Republicans will hold the House.
Divided government here we come. Now maybe in peacetime, a Democrat Senate was tolerable, but Kerry's despicable anti-military insults yesterday illustrate clearly why the Democrats cannot be trusted with any position of leadership.
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There's only one poll that counts, and it's taken on election day. Dewine deserves to lose, but it is laughable that Sharrod Brown will win in Ohio. He is a Kucinich type flake, and an empty suit like Casey. The word is "low turnout", that works for us. Worst case, the D's end up in a blowback situation for '08. Can you say President Hunter?
Posted by: Casca at October 31, 2006 10:58 AM (Y7t14)
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You could be right about the Senate. My guess at this point, which I think is too early, is that the Dems are +4 or +5. Still, either party can pull a Kerry in the last few days. Also, there can always be some world event that shapes perception. Two weeks are an eternity when things are this close.
I think you are correct about the House, but the Dems still win 10+ seats.
Posted by: blu at October 31, 2006 11:14 AM (IDpQp)
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Did I write two weeks? Oops! Well even a week is an eternity. Let's hope the Rep $ advantage makes a difference.
Posted by: blu at October 31, 2006 11:16 AM (IDpQp)
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How do independents figure in? If there are two independents and both caucus with the Dems, do the "count" in the Dems favor if it ends up 49-49-2? Or does Cheney still hold the tiebreaking vote?
Posted by: ken at October 31, 2006 11:43 AM (hFZJx)
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Ken,
I'm pretty sure that the I's can caucus with either party. In this case, both the I's are committed to the Dems.
Posted by: blu at October 31, 2006 11:49 AM (IDpQp)
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I disagree.
I think there will be a record turnout of Republicans that exceeds the huge turnout of 2004. Republicans will not turnout because they like the Republican candidates.
No, the Republicans will turn out to spit in the eye of the MSM and to get revenge on the MSM for their vote suppression techniques, news suppression and left-wing cheerleading. Republicans also want revenge on Democrats for all their outrageous insulting statements.
We are mad as hell, and we are not going to take it anymore.
Posted by: Jake at October 31, 2006 12:15 PM (V6rxT)
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Annika, let's hope your prediction about the Senate is as accurate as your predictions on Monday Night Football have been.
Posted by: Jason H. at October 31, 2006 02:26 PM (jTuRA)
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Annie, before the Kerry "f" up I would agree with you, but I think a lot of pissed off repubs and independents just might remember how much they hate these guys and go out to vote against them, rather than voting for the Republicans.
Posted by: kyle8 at October 31, 2006 04:29 PM (OPhHb)
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The Associated With Terrorists Press is running a story with Dems insiders predicting them winning 35 seats (giving them a 20-seat majority).
The MSM has been running stories like this for the past two weeks. Any contrary opinion gets buried in the middle of the story. The cheerleading will be constant and loud the next few days.
I've yet to see one-story about how Kerry's fuck-up might affect things. That's not part of the template.
Posted by: blu at October 31, 2006 06:01 PM (IDpQp)
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Annie:
Stick to the books. Politics is a very difficult game, a body contact sport, indeed.
The most important vote, every session, is the very first one. All the others are just details.
We will definitely hold the Senate, even if it is with 50, and that includes the RINO's. But if you control the Agenda, you control the pace and the issues, and don't scoff at it. I'll take every vote we can get.
I also agree that we will hold the House. I am in San Francisco for a few days, hanging out with people who are intoxicated by the thought of a Pelosi Speakership. They are doing the end zone dance, before they have crossed the goal line. We Republicans are mad, and are all voting; the Democrats are dancing.
My only question is: From which bridge will Nancy jump after she doesn't get the new drapes? George Washington, Golden Gate, Francis Scott Key, Golden Gate or 14th Street?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Posted by: shelly at November 01, 2006 04:02 AM (Eodj2)
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Shelly, I have to agree with you. All the old war elephants have seen this dance before. It's really hard to pickup seats. That's why you need a tidal wave like '94, you remember, the Clintons, national health care, and a congress full of check kiters.
Pelosi's thugs have done a great job of October surprising and sliming the shit out of R's this year. Heh, knocking off Bob Ney was a coup. They have been masterful. The Delay thing was all part of the plan. One hopes that R's learn the lesson, which I think Boener will, and spend the next cycle ripping these NGCS's a new asshole.
Ultimately, our targeted cash, and ground organization carries the day. Plus the tide of history is running R, and has been since Nixon.
Posted by: Casca at November 01, 2006 08:17 AM (Y7t14)
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The Dems peaked too early--around Foley. But this is going to go down to the wire and be very close regardless of who ultimately winds up on top. If I had to bet, I'd go with exactly the opposite result as Annie's prediction: R's hold the Senate, D's take the House, but razor-thin margins in each. The GOP will lose PA and RI, but I think we'll pick up NJ since Menendez is such a disastrously terrible candidate and Kean has name recognition. And I do think Mike Steele will win in Maryland: Prince George's County especially will swing in his favor way beyond what the polls suggest, because black voters do not want to tell pollsters they'd vote Republican. That should be enough to even counter any voting shenanigans in Baltimore.
Posted by: Dave J at November 01, 2006 07:01 PM (GKQ+L)
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You didn't mention Virginia. Webb and Allen have been in a statistical dead heat in the last several polls I've seen.
Posted by: Matt at November 02, 2006 08:39 AM (10G2T)
Posted by: annika at November 02, 2006 09:27 AM (zxtCi)
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We'll see. Webb just released his response to the NRA questionnaire, and he got 24 of 25 substantive questions right. I give him half-credit for the other one. (Maybe he just hasn't thought it through.) That'll play well outside Northern Virginia, though it may also be a sign of desperation.
Posted by: Matt at November 02, 2006 10:57 AM (10G2T)
Don't like waiting in line? Here's an idea, idiots. Get to your polling place early.
Here's another idea. Vote absentee.
When I go to the Post Office and there's a long line, it doesn't mean I'm being discriminated against. It just means there's a lot of customers. And if I show up at the Post Office at 5:00 and they shut the door in my face, it just means that I should have got there earlier.
Another thing, idiots. If you can't figure out the ballot, fucking ask somebody to help you. Or study the sample ballot before you show up.
It ain't that hard. If voting is so important to you that you are ready to scream disenfranchisement at the drop of a hat, why not take the time to avoid problems by planning ahead.
Unless of course, crying fraud is part of your strategy for winning.
P.S. If you're one of the unfortunate voters who has to use one of these beasts, and you encounter problems, blame Florida and disregard the above. I've never trusted the idea of computer voting, its an example of knee-jerk overreaction to a nonexistent problem.
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Is California still using paper ballots? We've got e-voting in Maryland. There were so many problems with the machines during the primaries, Governor Ehrlich has recommended voters use absentee ballots ...which are, of course, in short supply.
And since the Governor is a Republican, the Democrats are screaming blue bloody murder he has recommended paper ballots.
Posted by: Victor at October 31, 2006 06:36 AM (WHtgF)
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Everybody has to vote! Even though he likes it or not. The vote is one of the most important human rights because it represents the man's capacity of deciding for himself. If the computerized voting system does not present the safety that we want..then let us change the system.
Posted by: Barcode Printers at November 07, 2006 11:24 AM (UaqnT)
A Guide For Voters
Here are my California ballot proposition recommendations. It might be interesting to you, even if you're not from California, since it provides an insight into the workings of my political mind.
As I've said before, I have an easy way to decide on any bond issues. I vote no as a rule on every bond measure, no matter how tempting it sounds (with one exception, I vote yes on all prison bonds*). It seems to me that bond measures are a way for this state's government to spend beyond its means, even though excessive spending is its biggest problem. My philosophy is that the legislature should do its job and prioritize the budget so we won't have to rely on bonds to get things done.
I'm also sick and tired of two or three school improvement bonds every time we have an election. They generally win, because nobody (except me) wants to vote to keep kids learning under leaky roofs and without enough crayons or construction paper. Yet every election, the schools hold out their hand for more. Whatever happened to the promise that the California Lottery was supposed to solve all our school problems? I'm told that "Our schools win too" was the motto back in '84 when the lottery initiative passed. Well, I for one won't play that game anymore. Whatever they're doing with all that money isn't working, so let's cut off the spigot and force them to try something else.
Here's the propositions on the statewide ballot:
Prop 1A: TRANSPORTATION FUNDING PROTECTION This initiative would force the government to use gasoline sales tax revenues for transportation improvements only, instead of dumping that money into the general fund so the legislature can squander it as they love to do. I vote YES.
Prop 1B: HIGHWAY SAFETY, TRAFFIC REDUCTION, AIR QUALITY, AND PORT SECURITY BOND Here's an example of a bond measure with worthy goals, which I will reject simply because of my hard and fast rule about bond measures. If the legislature would do its job, cut the frivolous spending, and cut regulation and taxes to keep businesses from fleeing the state, we'd have enough money to do this kind of shit without mortgaging our future with 39 billion more in bond debt. I vote NO.
Prop 1C: HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SHELTER TRUST FUND More bonds. Hey, I'm all for helping out battered women and their kids, low-income seniors, the disabled, military veterans, and working families. But again, if this is such a priority, the legislature should find a way to do it without adding to the bond debt. Otherwise, let's encourage private charities to continue their good work in this area. I know that there are many fine non-profits that help battered women and provide shelter for their families, because I did pro-bono work for one of them last year. I vote NO.
Prop 1D: KINDERGARTEN–UNIVERSITY PUBLIC EDUCATION FACILITIES BOND Another school bond. See above. I vote NO.
Prop 1E: DISASTER PREPAREDNESS AND FLOOD PREVENTION BOND Another bond. I vote NO.
Prop 83: SEX OFFENDERS. SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATORS. PUNISHMENT, RESIDENCE RESTRICTIONS AND MONITORING This initiative tightens punishment and monitoring of violent sexual predators. Again, where was the legislature on this? Why is such an important public safety issue being left up to the initiative process? A definite YES vote.
Prop 84: WATER QUALITY, SAFETY AND SUPPLY, FLOOD CONTROL, NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION, PARK IMPROVEMENTS, BONDS All important and worthy goals, which I support — Just not by increasing the bond debt. I sound like a broken record here. I vote NO.
Prop 85: WAITING PERIOD AND PARENTAL NOTIFICATION BEFORE TERMINATION OF MINORÂ’S PREGNANCY This proposition would require a doctor to notify parents when a minor comes in for an abortion, with certian exceptions. If I had a kid, I'd want to know if she was going to have an abortion. I don't care if some other kid doesn't have a good relationship with her parent. I'd want to know about my daughter. It's that simple. I vote YES.
Prop 86: TAX ON CIGARETTES This initiative would add $2.60 in taxes to each pack of cigarettes. Right now, they're about $5 a pack. If this initiative passes, a pack would cost more than it does in New York City. I was shocked at the cost of cigarettes during my last trip to New York. I suppose I should favor this proposition because it might motivate me to quit. But realistically, even though I grumbled, I still paid the seven bucks when I was in New York. I generally oppose sin taxes, because they encourage the black market. We already have enough problems with drugs and illegal aliens coming across the border without creating a whole new market for contraband. I vote NO.
Prop 87: ALTERNATIVE ENERGY. RESEARCH, PRODUCTION, INCENTIVES. TAX ON CALIFORNIA OIL PRODUCERS This is the most controversial measure on California's ballot. President Clinton is doing tv spots in favor of this plan, which would create a whole new alternative energy research bureaucracy funded by a tax on oil drilling in California. The opposition ads are disingenuous because they do not say that the law would prevent oil companies from passing on the tax to the consumer. It sounds tempting, especially to those who don't understand economics. But when you do the research, this proposition reveals itself as one of the worst ideas to come down the pike in a long time. Virtually every major newspaper to opine on the issue agrees that it's a horrible idea. And I'm talking the San Francisco Chronicle, the L.A. Times, the Sacramento Bee, the O.C. Register and the Wall Street Journal. That's a pretty wide sampling of the editorial spectrum there. I'd encourage anybody undecided on this measure to read those editorials, which can be found here. As much as we'd all like to stick it to the oil companies, It doesn't make much sense to punish them for developing domestic oilfields in order to achieve energy independence. If it's no longer profitable to drill in California, guess where our oil will come from? That's right, overseas. I also have a problem with the prohibition against passing the new tax on to the consumer. In my view, the way to encourage alternative energy sources is to let the free market work. High gas prices are the best way to create a demand for the new technology, not a poorly regulated and graft ridden new bureaucracy. I vote NO.
Prop 88: EDUCATION FUNDING. REAL PROPERTY PARCEL TAX The schools got their hand out again. They're like the cookie monster, except it's not Chips Ahoy they want, it's your money. This time they want to add $50 to everybody's property tax bill. If we let them, next year it will be another $50 or maybe $100. Just say NO.
Prop 89: POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, PUBLIC FINANCING, CORPORATE TAX INCREASE, CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION AND EXPENDITURE LIMITS Another corporate tax increase at a time when California needs to stop business from fleeing out of state. How is that a good idea? And how is it a good idea to make it harder for ordinary Californians to run for office by requiring "a specified number of $5.00 contributions from voters?" This initiative also puts limits on political contributions to state candidates, which is a free speech issue. I vote NO.
Prop 90: GOVERNMENT ACQUISITION, REGULATION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY The last ballot initiative is the Protect Our Homes Act, which I first heard about from Tim Sandefur. This is the anti-Kelo initiative. It would basically prevent the state government from using its eminent domain power to grab your property and give it to some corporation, which is what happened in the Kelo case. If you hated Kelo, vote for this. I vote YES.
There you have it. Since I encourage all my blog's visitors to be in complete agreement with me, I suggest that you Californians print out this post and take it with you on November 7th.
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* The reason I vote against school bonds and for prison bonds is not because I'm a heartless bitch. I understand the argument that better schools may lead to fewer criminals. But school bonds always win, and yet we still need prisons. Insofar as my one vote can be a message, I plan to send that message. Where school bonds are concerned, my message is that the state should use the gobs of money we send them for schools each year more wisely. As for prisons, they're an unpopular but necessary part of our infrastucture, and my message is that I want them built. As the late Ann Richards said of Texas' vast prison system, when asked what kind of a message it sent to the world: "If you commit a crime in Texas, it means we got a place to put you."
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You are right about the bonds. The market is gunshy about California bonds now. I certainly would not buy any. All these new bonds could collapse the house of cards called California Public Financing.
They want to steal money from an industry that is giving us cheap energy and give the money to an industry that will only give us expensive energy. Most of the money to push this bill is coming from people who have big investments in alternative energy companies. As is the case with all the left's big ideas, poor people will suffer the most from this bill.
Posted by: Jake at October 29, 2006 12:44 PM (V6rxT)
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I'm torn on Prop 84, the last thing the state needs it more debt...but the money would be good for (my) business.
Posted by: the Pirate at October 29, 2006 07:47 PM (MifjL)
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Since spending on education, and spending per pupil, both in real and in relative numbers has gone up continuously since the 1950's while performance has gone down. You could make a good case that more money equals stupider kids.
Also, the correlation between criminal activity and education is not the direct causality one might assume. It really means that the criminally minded are usually stupid, lazy, and not inclined to take education seriously. I don't see how any amount of government spending can change that.
In other words, be a heartless bitch, thats why we love ya.
Posted by: kyle8 at October 29, 2006 07:50 PM (ruMxx)
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Fifty years ago, when educational professionals were called teachers, they were both. Now, when teachers are called educational professionals, they are neither. They are government employees who hang around waiting for retirement, and rubber stamping the future. Oh, not all, just 90%.
Did you know that the highest paid public employees in America are public school superintendants?
BTW, I pledge to vote the Annikan Ballot.
Posted by: Casca at October 29, 2006 09:28 PM (2gORp)
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I'd be right inline with your voting on these if I were in Cali. These education grubbers are all over this vast great nation. In Georgia these "initiatives" usually come in the form of Splost referendum. (special Purpose local option sales tax- or some such nonsense) I also vote no consistently but teachers and people who really don't know they're already paying for education, often trump me. And we continue to rank among the worst in education. People make education work-
not money.
Posted by: Mike C. at October 30, 2006 04:17 AM (GIL7z)
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We have a wonderful prison system here, and the county jails are top notch, especially in Dallas...now, if there were only more ladies like Annika out here, then Texas would be the place to be
Posted by: Scof at October 30, 2006 01:17 PM (afLeY)
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I'm with you on most of these -- I've been torn about Prop 87 but I think I'll vote against it. I do think *something* needs to be done to wean us from our dependence on oil, foreign *or* domestic, but this bill only addresses one side of the coin (and the wrong one, at that). Don't get me wrong -- I've no love for domestic-product oil companies, but all this will do is make more people head to the Exxon Mobil station next door. The notion that this won't be passed on to consumers is just plain silly and bad economics. Of course the tax will be passed on to consumers, and the execs will hire enough economists to make it appear that they're complying with the law.
We need to be allowed to tax the foreign oil companies (and we need concrete goals for how to spend the money, not to create some stupid wasteful commission that only creates needless jobs and needlessly spends the money that way). I blame the dormant commerce clause for idiotic ballot measures like this one.
I, too, am sick of spending so much money on public schools without seeing results. A huge part of this is that throwing money at a problem doesn't work. Wisely investing money *might*, but generally the people who are smart enough to know how to fix schools aren't working for the government educational boards. I'm certainly not in favor of raising taxes just so kids in the richest schools get the option of checking out laptops for homework, while the kids in East LA (or comparable areas in other parts of the state) don't even get a complete set of schoolbooks for the year.
Posted by: The Law Fairy at October 30, 2006 01:22 PM (XUsiG)
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Hey thanks for the recommendations. I am also looking for recommendations on the judges. Am having a hard time finding any online. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Anna at October 30, 2006 03:46 PM (SGG+E)
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"Of course the tax will be passed on to consumers, and the execs will hire enough economists to make it appear that they're complying with the law."
Exactly what I was thinking, LF.
Anna, on judges, I'm as stumped as you. If I come up with any ideas, I'll post them.
Posted by: annika at October 30, 2006 03:52 PM (zAOEU)
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Is there really a fundamental difference between education bonds and prison bonds? One can claim that education should be funded out of the general budget, rather than bonds. Why not make the same argument for prisons - namely, that we shouldn't be funding something as important as prisons via a funding method as atrocious as bonds? Yes, I know that a previous proposition dedicated funds to education, and that there's no similar dedicated revenue source for prisons, but I still believe that we need a better source for prison funding - it should come out of the general budget.
Regarding politicians, my views are as follows:
(1) Unless there's some absolutely pressing need, don't vote for incumbents. They have to earn their keep, and normally they don't.
(2) Whoever strikes with the first negative ad loses. If you're getting enough money to air negative ads, then someone's funding you who probably doesn't have my best interests in mind.
(3) Don't be afraid to write in candidates that you like (Deborah Acker, here we come). It won't make a difference, but you'll feel better.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at October 30, 2006 06:14 PM (OeJic)
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I voted like that (absentee) - No on everything, and "NO!" especially whenever they bring out the old lie, "it's for the children" to pass over-funded school measures. It's bogus, they need to get over it.
Posted by: DirtCrashr at October 30, 2006 06:16 PM (VNM5w)
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"It doesn't make much sense to punish them for developing domestic oilfields in order to achieve energy independence. "
We cannot achieve energy independence through domestic oilfield development; not even close.
It will take major strides in 3 areas;
1. Energy efficiency (more bang for the btu)
2. Sustainable energy sources (so we don't have to do this again in another 20 years)
3. Conservation (biofuels and related efforts will only get us ~20% of the energy we use now from petroleum)
While I agree with you that the proposition has some warts, it would assume high risk to believe that 'business as usual' is the answer.
Posted by: will at November 01, 2006 01:45 PM (h7Ciu)
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I'm voting no against the school bonds too. Our schools would not be overcrowded if it weren't for the illegals and their anchor babies, and our school performance would not be nearly as dismal if it weren't for the huge numbers of non-English speaking kids in them that need special attention. Ditto our crubmling infrastructure -- it wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have four million illegals living here and using it for free. So "no" from me on the infrastructure bond too.
Posted by: Mary at November 07, 2006 10:02 AM (oawG2)
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My dear Annie:
I am your loyal Golden Bear friend and fan. And I cancelled you out on every single proposition, without exception. Go us!
Beat the 'cats! Beat the Trojans!
Posted by: Hugo at November 07, 2006 01:49 PM (yLeev)
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lol hugo! i cancelled you out!
Cal Bears 4ever!!!
Posted by: annika at November 07, 2006 01:57 PM (kX6Jn)
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Annie, you do know that Garamendi was a star lineman for Cal in the 1960s? Don't ex Cal gridiron stars automatically deserve a vote, regardless of their politics?
Posted by: Hugo at November 07, 2006 03:15 PM (yLeev)
Same Shit Different Day
And just in case you thought a cease fire in the north meant peace all over Israel, think again.
Just because the anti-semitic media in this country doesn't deem it news don't meant this shit ain't still happening almost every fucking day.
P.S. The comments under the article are crazy. Man, if a Kassam rocket landed in my yard, but I was only "lightly injured" do you think I would: a) say "no harm no foul," and go on with my day, or b) get pissed as hell and start screaming nonstop until I saw warplanes flying back from Gaza with empty hardpoints.
Danish Court Dismisses Jihadi Lawsuit Over CartoonsScore one for our side.
"It cannot be ruled out that the drawings have offended some Muslims' honor, but there is no basis to assume that the drawings are, or were conceived as, insulting or that the purpose of the drawings was to present opinions that can belittle Muslims," the court said.
The seven Muslim groups filed the defamation lawsuit against the paper in March, after Denmark's top prosecutor declined to press criminal charges, saying the drawings did not violate laws against racism or blasphemy.
The plaintiffs, who claimed to have the backing of 20 more Islamic organizations in the Scandinavian country, had sought $16,860 in damages from Jyllands-Posten Editor in Chief Carsten Juste and Culture Editor Flemming Rose, who supervised the cartoon project.
What they need to do now is get rid of the stupid law that allows people to sue for "belittling Muslims."
My E-Mail From San Fran Nan
I got an e-mail from Nancy Pelosi today. No lie. I'm on some Democrat list, inexplicably. I thought it was a weird e-mail because it was titled "what we need to do," yet she pretty much avoided mentioning any of the key issues of the day. So much for a Democratic version of the Contract With America.
Here is the entire text of the e-mail:
Dear annika,
You know how high the stakes are -- so I'll get right to the point: there's never been a more critical time to highlight the priorities everyday Americans share.
Right now, working families suffer because corporate lobbyists write the laws. Our seniors can't get the drugs they need because the drug companies get everything they want. And President Bush continues to threaten one of our society's greatest accomplishments -- Social Security -- with his risky privatization schemes.
Congress needs to focus on an agenda that benefits the American people:
* Impose new rules and regulations to break the link between lobbyists and legislation
* Allow the government to negotiate with drug companies and fix Medicare Part D
* Stop Social Security and Medicare privatization plans in their tracks
* Raise the minimum wage to $7.25
* Cut the interest rates on student loans in half
* Roll back subsidies to Big Oil and gas companies
* Enact all the recommendations made by the independent 9/11 Commission
And that all needs to be done in the first 100 hours!
Working together, we will make that happen. Please help Americans United today:
There's a lot at stake in the coming weeks, but we must never lose focus on the task at hand: building a better country. Your work changes the national debate, raising awareness about the misplaced priorities of the current leadership.
Last year, Americans United led the national media campaign against Social Security privatization -- and won.
Now, with so much more at stake, will you help us win again?
Nancy Pelosi
Democratic Leader, U.S. House of Representatives
That's it?
(It's nice that the Democrats want to cut student loan rates in half, but if you can't afford 8% over thirty years with the almost unlimited deferment schemes available, something is seriously wrong with your post college career path.)
I'm sorry but that was a weird e-mail. It's weird because she said absolutely nothing about the big issues that people are arguing about — the issues that are going to get people off their ass and down to the voting booth less than two weeks from now.
She said nothing about Iraq.
Nothing about the War on Terror.
Nothing about impeachment.
Nothing about tax cuts.
Nothing about gay marriage.
Nothing about abortion.
Nothing about crime.
Nothing about North Korea.
Nothing about Iran.
Nothing about the border.
The Democrats are either a party with no agenda or a party with a hidden agenda. Either way, they absolutely cannot be trusted with a majority.
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"Allow the government to negotiate with drug companies"
"Negotiate with" the drug companies? Probably more like "dictate to", in practice.
I also swoon at her non-solution to the fiscal black hole that is Social(ist) Security.
Yeah, I'm racking up a lot of debt on my college loans, but I'm not desperate enough to put that socialist hag's party in charge so they could wreck my prospects for keeping a decent post-grad job to pay off those very loans. The Dems are just going to enact policies that will sap the entrepreneurial ammo away from my potential employers.
Posted by: reagan80 at October 25, 2006 09:24 PM (dFOlH)
Posted by: The Truth at October 26, 2006 12:43 AM (3mfkT)
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How right you are Annika. I'd be interested to know whether Nancy's retirement relies soley on Social Security or if she's invested in the Stock Market, like everyone else on Capital Hill. They've really run the propaganda machine on this one.
Posted by: Mike C. at October 26, 2006 03:12 AM (GIL7z)
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Let's see, the R's were out of power in the house for about sixty years. Most of my life I lived with a go-along-get-along R minority. Then came Newt. Nancy, you are no Newt.
Although it would be delicious to see fatboy Denny bounced, and the Princlings in the house made to bow and shuffle. Hell I even think the Republic could withstand the roll to port. It's not going to happen.
But if it does... just watch what the R's in the house will do to get back up on the porch now that they know they can do it. Before 1994, nobody believed that it could be done. This time there will be no allowing them to go with grace. They'll be running for their lives, and living in a basement somewhere.
Posted by: Casca at October 26, 2006 06:26 AM (Y7t14)
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Let's see, roll back the Bush tax cuts which costs me money, to lower the rate on student loans (consolidated at the lower rates.) Yep, there's a reason to vote for the Dems.
I'm sure the people who own drug company stocks (oh yeah, me again in my 401K) will be thrilled when they tank. Not to mention the poor folks who get some disease that might have been cured, had the drug companies been able to research it. Yep, good reason to vote for the Dems.
It's simply not bold enough. I want the minimum wage to be $200/hr - and $5000/hr for me. I want the Dems to impeach the Iranian and Kim, and Osama too. I want free cable TV, and a Lexus.
My vote can be had, but the Dems have to try way harder than this.
Posted by: MarkD at October 26, 2006 08:53 AM (oQofX)
6if you can't afford 8% over thirty years with the almost unlimited deferment schemes available, something is seriously wrong with your post college career path. Like they didn't bother to take any classes in Economics, but found "enriching personal fulfillment" in Birth of a Poet (UC Santa Cruz)... This is the insanity that comes out of a party which tries to legislate worldwide economic markets. They don't know how to build anything, they have no engineering expertise - but they have many, repeated, failed attempts at social-engineering.
Posted by: DirtCrashr at October 26, 2006 10:10 AM (VNM5w)
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A roll to port; are you nuts?
We need to stay on a starboard tack and keep those lubbers eating our foul wind.
No mercy.
Posted by: shelly at October 26, 2006 02:40 PM (ZGpMS)
In many ways, the economy has not looked so good in a long time.
Yet Republicans can't get any love when it comes to the strong economy.
“Voters overwhelmingly don’t approve of the president on the economy,” said Amy Walter, a senior editor at the Cook Political Report, a nonpartisan firm that handicaps political races. “It comes down to the issue of credibility. And so many voters feel so pessimistic about the direction of the country.”
Take the unemployment figures for instance. The rule of thumb I always heard in school was that anytime you have unemployment at 5% or below, the country was doing great. Right now, unemployment is at 4.4%. That is great. Check out this graph from the Bureau of Labor Statistics for some historical perspective.
As you can see, since WWII, unemployment has been over 5% a lot more than it's been under. Yet you still get comments like this one:
Ann O’Callahan, a 64-year old Irish immigrant in suburban Philadelphia, defines herself as a social conservative. She voted Republican in 2000, but switched to the Democrats in 2004. This year she plans to vote Democratic again, mainly because of the economy. “I am very disturbed by the economic policies of the Bush administration,” she said.
Ms. OÂ’CallahanÂ’s district, PennsylvaniaÂ’s Seventh, is an island of relative affluence. The median income in the area, according to the Census Bureau, topped $63,000 last year, more than a third higher than the national median. According to Economy.comÂ’s analysis, based on county data, unemployment this year in the district should average 3.8 percent, well below the national average.
But, Ms. O’Callahan said, jobs were not enough. “I work with job placement so I see up close how a lot more work is demanded of people, how benefits are disappearing, how hourly rates have been stagnant throughout the Bush administration,” she said. She said that jobs were plentiful, “but paying $8 an hour with no benefits.”
What I think Ms. O'Callahan overlooked is that in any economy there's going to be a bottom of the barrel type job. These days it's probably going to pay $8 an hour without benefits. But when 96.2% of the people in Ms. O'Callahan's district are working, I'd imagine that she's spending most of her time placing people in these bottom of the barrel type jobs. Most people with skills are probably already employed, and making more money.
We need entry level jobs. They're where most people start out. And they're good for students and retired people. Look at what's going on in France where "youths" are burning busses and attacking police because their country won't allow businesses the freedom to offer entry level jobs.
With the Dow over 12,000 and unemployment under 5%, I say the economy is doing great.
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Predicatably the MSM was much more interested in Foley and their media driven story than the Dow hitting 12,000. If this had been a Dem President, you'd still be reading stories about it.
Here's a prediction: The Foley story will continue to garner media attention until Nov 3 when miraculously it will go away never to be heard of again.
Posted by: blu at October 24, 2006 02:45 PM (42Ozp)
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MSM turns every bit of good economic news into economic disasters. The only people who think the economy is doing great are those who ignore MSM.
The truth is that never in the history of America has economic conditions been so good.
Posted by: Jake at October 24, 2006 05:01 PM (r/5D/)
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However, national debt is at an all-time high; this extravagant lifestyle must eventually be paid back. Personal debt in the US is at record levels; there is no longer the ability to run out and shop to buy one's way out of the federal deficit, especially since so many buy foreign goods, which exascerbates the foreign trade deficit. There are many other indicators to look at beyond the hollow GDP.
Posted by: will at October 24, 2006 05:46 PM (h7Ciu)
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LMAO, there is nothing more reliable than the leftist fucktard. Their acquaintance with truth is never more than a passing one. May God bless Arthur Laffer.
Posted by: Casca at October 24, 2006 08:22 PM (2gORp)
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The L7 is right about the the national debt, but destroying economic growth, via tax hikes, to eliminate the deficit doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather the Republicans stop acting like Third Way-ers and cut all of the massive spending on bullshit.
Posted by: reagan80 at October 25, 2006 08:25 AM (dFOlH)
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I agree with reagan80: way too much pork still exists.
Posted by: will at October 25, 2006 08:57 AM (h7Ciu)
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For more depth discussion on the topic, I recommend "Running On Empty: How The Democratic and Republican Parties Are Bankrupting Our Future and What Americans Can Do About It" by Peter G. Peterson, Secretary of Commerce under Nixon.
Posted by: will at October 25, 2006 09:55 AM (h7Ciu)
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The spending under Bush (and I'm not talking about the military, which Clinton gutted and needed to be addressed) has been out of control. For me, this is the biggest failure of Bush and the Reps. They have had the majority; they can't blame it on Dems. Luckily, his tax strategy has paid off, so we have tremendous economic growth. Time to address the other half of the equation.
Posted by: blu at October 25, 2006 10:07 AM (j8oa6)
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Hmmm. Bruce Bartlett probably got the idea for the title of his book from that Peterson guy's.
Blu, the only other major flaw I'd add is that the administration isn't running much of a meritocracy. (Harriet Miers, WTF?)
Posted by: reagan80 at October 25, 2006 10:33 AM (dFOlH)
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Didn't Bartlet pass on? What's the book title? I read "The 7 Fat Years", which (I think) was published in the early 90's.
Posted by: blu at October 25, 2006 10:57 AM (j8oa6)
Posted by: reagan80 at October 25, 2006 11:46 AM (dFOlH)
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Thanks Reagan80,
I had his name confused with Robert Bartley, who did pass away a couple of years back. (He was the editor of the WSJ - awarded the Pulitzer at one point.) Bartley wrote the "The 7 Fat Years."
Posted by: blu at October 25, 2006 12:30 PM (j8oa6)
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No problem, Blu. Though, I think I'll shut up now before I start sounding more like Skippy or Roach.
Posted by: reagan80 at October 25, 2006 01:05 PM (dFOlH)
655,000 Iraqis Dead?
Is the line between intellectual dishonesty and bald-faced lying a fine line or is it a wide chasm? Whichever it is, The Lancet and those who masturbate over its latest Iraqi war dead estimate have leapt across that line with ease.
A study published in the Lancet this week estimates that 654,965 Iraqis have died as a consequence of war since 2003. . . .
. . . The researchers—led by Gilbert Burnham of Johns Hopkins University—gathered data on more than 12,000 people in clusters of houses around Iraq, and tried to figure out how many people had died both before and after March of 2003. By comparing the pre- and post-invasion mortality rates, they figured out how many deaths could be attributed to the war, and then extrapolated from their sample to the country's entire population. [via Slate.com]
655,000 is roughly the population of Baltimore, Maryland, where Johns Hopkins University is located.
Historian Gwynne Dyer (who wrote the very readable book War, which pretty much made me want to be a history major) is against the Iraq war. He predictably gushed over the Lancet's study:
Johns Hopkins University, Boston University and MIT are not fly-by-night institutions, and people who work there have academic reputations to protect.
The Lancet, founded 182 years ago, is one of the oldest and most respected medical journals in the world.
Must be true then. These people couldn't possibly make a mistake. In fact, I bet the peer review process is waived for all studies coming out of JHU, BU, MIT, or the Lancet.
Riiiiight.
The most disturbing thing is the breakdown of the causes of death.
Over half the deaths -- 56 per cent -- are due to gunshot wounds, but 13 per cent are due to air strikes. No terrorists do air strikes. No Iraqi government forces do air strikes either because they don't have combat aircraft. Air strikes are done by "coalition forces" (i.e. Americans and British) and air strikes in Iraq have killed over 75,000 people since the invasion.
Oscar Wilde once observed that "to lose one parent ... may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness."
To lose 75,000 Iraqis to air strikes looks like carelessness, too.
Actually, blind acceptance of the Lancet's figures and methodology by a historian such as Dyer looks like carelessness to me.
Now, I didn't do too well in statistics, so I won't pick apart the Lancet's methodology, no matter how suspect it seems to me (it was based on interviews?!). But I do have a history background and the 655,000 number seemed wildly far-fetched to me the instant I saw it. Wildly far-fetched.
I immediately wondered why the study's authors had not considered placing the estimate into historical perspective. That would be a kind of "smell test," which I suspected the study might not pass.
Consider this. In 3½ years, the Lancet figures we have been responsible for 655,000 civilian deaths. (Not casualties, deaths. The term "casualty" includes missing, wounded and POWs.) For comparison, I simply went to two easily available sources: The Oxford Companion to World War II, and the often less reliable Wikipedia.
According to those two sources, Japanese civilian deaths in World War II ranged from 400,000 to 600,000. One generally expects the Wikipedia figure to be at the higher range, and that was true in this case. I also consulted Wings of Judgment, by Ronald Schaffer, a somewhat left leaning historian of the two World Wars. Shaffer gave an estimated range from 330,000 to 900,000 Japanese deaths (p. 14
, which coincidentally is almost exactly the range that the Lancet used for Iraqi civilian deaths (392,979 to 942,636).
Looking at all three sources, the Wikipedia estimate of 600,000 Japanese civilian deaths seems most reasonable. So the obvious question to me is this:
Are we to believe that the United States has killed more Iraqi civilians in the current war than we killed Japanese civilians during World War II?
I have no doubt that there are very many anti-war kooks who would not hesitate to believe that, but it sure doesn't pass the smell test to me.
Keep in mind that we attacked Japan repeatedly with unguided incendiary bombs in WWII, while we mostly relied on precision guided bombs when bombing Iraq. Also remember that the aerial bombing in Iraq occurred in the first three weeks of the war, and thereafter was only used to support certain offensives like in Fallujah, etc.
Keep in mind that the purpose of strategic bombing in WWII was to kill civilians and that we intentionally targeted Japanese civilians for over a year. In Iraq, we make a great effort to avoid civilian deaths. In fact, Iraqi civilian deaths are counter-productive to the war effort and can be used as a propaganda against us by our enemies, as the Lancet study proves.
Keep in mind that we flattened two Japanese cities in WWII with nuclear weapons, and that those attacks weren't even as deadly as the Tokyo firebomb raid in which three hundred B-29s burned the city to the ground and killed almost 100,000 civilians in one night. We bombed the crap out of Japan so thoroughly that we had pretty much run out of cities to destroy by the end of the war.
It was a lot easier to kill Japanese civilians by firebombing than it is to kill Iraqis today. The Lancet figures that most Iraqis (56%) were killed by gunshots, which is probably the least efficient way of killing mass numbers of people. Remember that Japanese civilians lived in houses made of paper and wood, and that the population density of Iraq is nothing compared to Japan in the 1940s. During the Tokyo raid, escape was near impossible. Shaffer wrote:
The fire storm quickly roasted those who stayed in under-house shelters. Alleys and small gardens filled with flaming debris. Shifting flames blocked exit routes. Abandoning their efforts to check the inferno, firemen tried to channel people across already burned areas, and where there was still water pressure they drenched people so they could pass through the fire. Some inhabitants ducked themselves in firefighting cisterns before moving. . . .
Choking inhabitants crawled across fallen telephone poles and trolley wires. As superheated air burned their lungs and ignited their clothing, some burst into flames, fire sweeping up from the bottoms of trousers or starting in the cloth hoods worn for protection against the sparks. Residents hurried from burning areas with possessions bundled on their backs, unaware that the bundles had ignited. Some women who carried infants this way realized only when they stopped to rest that their babies were on fire.
. . . Thousands submerged themselves in stagnant, foul-smelling canals with their mouths just above the surface, but many died from smoke inhalation, anoxia, or carbon monoxide poisoning, or were submerged by masses of people who tumbled on top of them, or boiled to death when the fire storm heated the water. [p. 134]
That is what it takes to kill 655,000 civilians. Death on that kind of scale is not something that can easily escape notice, yet there have been no such stories coming out of Iraq in the last three years. I'm not trying to minimize the horrible situation in Iraq, but some perspective is definitely in order. And the Lancet's estimate is so insanely exagerrated I can only conclude that the researchers are bald-faced liars.
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Killing 650,000 out of a population of 26 million would be about 2.5% of the population. That would be something in the neighborhood of communicating Sherman's message of war, i.e. "Don't fuck with us". We haven't done that.
Posted by: Casca at October 14, 2006 05:31 PM (2gORp)
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Maaaan, your post was so engrossing that I missed Suppan's homerun.
Posted by: Sarah at October 14, 2006 06:01 PM (7Wklx)
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I don't believe the air strike figure nor the 655,000 dead figure from the liberation of Iraq. I wonder if they counted morgues and Iraqi statistics kept by authorities put in place after the fall of Saddam. I wonder why they extrapolate to the entire country when the Kurd and some other ereas were not affected much by coalition military action.
I think that you are right when you say that these numbers do not pass the smell test, and your post gives some good reasons why not.
Posted by: Denny at October 14, 2006 06:29 PM (gN92I)
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This study, like the phony one they put out before, is being roundly discredited. It doesn't pass the smell test because it's BS.
Posted by: blu at October 14, 2006 08:15 PM (42Ozp)