i thought about how Paul Johnson worked on the AH-64 helicopter. i thought about how i'd like to see a hundred Apaches descend on those filthy terrorist animals, and a hundred chain guns spitting flame and vengeance.

i thought about how much the Apache resembles a locust. And then i thought of this passage:

The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. They were not given power to kill them, but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes a man. During those days men will seek death, but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. Their hair was like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth. They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months.

Oh no. She's quoting Revelations. Does that mean she thinks the war on terror is a religious battle? Does she think this is like the Crusades? How ugly! How un-PC! How unenlightened! Doesn't she know Islam is a peaceful religion. Doesn't she know it's just a few bad apples, whom we should arrest and put on trial? Shame on her!

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Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, Paul Johnson. Is it becoming clearer now?

Not that i want to see any video of this one, because i don't, but there are apparently some stills out there. Will we respond in kind to this barbarity, or will we just get used to it?

Half of us want to kick ass until these vermin are extinguished. The other half want to hold hands, sing cumbaya and let it go on. What will it take to wake up those fools?

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There seems to be a disconnect between the mainstream media and reality. i never heard President Bush say that Hussein was involved in 9/11. But the media keeps reporting the 9/11 commission's conclusion that there was no Hussein Al Qaeda connection in the attacks as if it was news.

As the President said this morning, yet again:

This administration never said that the 9-11 attacks were orchestrated between Saddam and al-Qaeda. . . . We did say there were numerous contacts between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, for example, Iraqi intelligence agents met with (Osama) bin Ladin, the head of al-Qaeda in Sudan.

The point that always seems to get lost in these pissing contests, and the only point that matters in my view, is that Saddam Hussein and Ben Ladin both hated us badly. Therefore it was too dangerous to leave Hussein around and able to help Al Qaeda in the future. Did anybody seriously believe that Ben Ladin would not have eventually approached Hussien for support and training camps after we kicked him out of Afghanistan?

If anyone had doubts on that point, the 9/11 Commission's report should clear that up:

Al Qaeda did approach Hussein.

Al Qaeda did meet with the Iraqi government.

There was an Iraqi-Al Qaeda connection.

Just not on 9/11.

It's not necessary to take Bush's word or even my word on it. That's what the 9/11 Commission said. But the media keeps trying to put words in the president's mouth. Yet even The Washington Post couldn't find a quote that states what their editorial writers want us to believe. In this collection of administration quotes they call "White House Statements on Iraq, al-Qaida", i defy anyone to find a direct statement by any admininstration official saying that Iraq and Al Qaeda collaborated on the 9/11 attacks.

You'd think if such a quote were there, the Washington Post would have found it. Instead, the Post's anthology of quotes merely shows that the administration was right about the budding relationship between Hussein's Iraq and Al Quada. We can believe they were right because the 9/11 Commision agrees that there were links.

And it therefore follows, i say, that we were right to take out Saddam Hussein before those links turned into a full fledged alliance.

More on topic: read DANEgerus.

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i have been negligent for not posting any poem by my favorite poet on one of these Poetry Wednesdays. Today i will correct that. The following is by Edna St. Vincent Millay:

God's World

O WORLD, I cannot hold thee close enough!
    Thy winds, thy wide grey skies!
    Thy mists that roll and rise!
Thy woods this autumn day, that ache and sag
And all but cry with colour! That gaunt crag
To crush! To lift the lean of that black bluff!
World, World, I cannot get thee close enough!

Long have I known a glory in it all,
    But never knew I this;
    Here such a passion is
As stretcheth me apart,—Lord, I do fear
ThouÂ’st made the world too beautiful this year;
My soul is all but out of me,—let fall
No burning leaf; prithee, let no bird call.

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If the Lakers lose tonight, it will be because they did not get the ball to Shaq on every posession. Larry Brown knows that Kobe will try to take the game on his shoulders, and like last Sunday, Kobe will be triple teamed. Get the ball in to Shaq and stay in the triangle offense.

But they won't do that. Because guys like George and Medvedenko think they are good, instead of hacks, which is what they really are. They will come downcourt and throw up jumpers with 15 on the shot clock, like they always do.

If Detroit wins, much as i love my Lakers, i will have to admit that the best team did win.

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Did i or did i not predict that Brittany Spears would be in rehab by October of this year?

Answer: i did, sort of.

Allow me now to gloat and report to you that Brittany indeed will be undergoing eight to twelve weeks of rehab, starting six weeks from now.

Never doubt me again.

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Whatever else you can say about this week, i think it's been a seven day long commercial for the Republican Party. Tremble Democrats, because countless young people watching the proceedings are almost certainly going to grow up to be Republicans.

Nancy Reagan handled everything with a selfless grace and dignity that should set an example for us all.

i love Michael Reagan. He seems like a really decent and kindhearted man.

When the Democrats act like pessimistic crybabies again, starting next week i should think, your average American will remember the pride he or she felt during the week of Reagan's remembrance.

Looking at the tens of thousands of people who waited 5+ hours on both coasts, just to pay their respects where the President's body lied in state, i was struck by how many hundreds of thousands there were, myself included, who would have done the same if they could.

And looking at the thousands of people who lined the route from Point Mugu N.A.S. to Simi Valley, just to show their gratitude, i was struck by the fact that we may all owe our lives to that great man. Maybe there's no way i can prove that, but can you prove it's not true?

President Bush managed to put a former president, a former prime minister and the heir to the throne of Great Britain to sleep. That's power.

i thought Ron Reagan's swipe at President Bush was inappropriate and unfair.

The musical performances at the Cathedral service on Friday were outstanding, particularly the choral version of Jerusalem, both versions of the Battle Hymn and the very moving recessional music.

The two most heart-wrenching moments for me were when George H. W. Bush got choked up for a moment, and when Nancy Reagan, surrounded by her family, said a final goodbye to her husband, who loved her so very much.

Did you see John Kerry whisper something in Bill Clinton's ear before the Cathedral Service, then hold his finger up to his lips? What sort of conspiracy are they cooking up?

Ronald Reagan was both a good man and a great man. i fear that the world owes him a debt that cannot be repayed. i am grateful that he lived, and for his many gifts to us all. But now that he's gone, i don't see anyone that even comes close to his goodness and his greatness. And that makes me afraid for the future.

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The Boss needs to just "shut up and sing." He thinks every American needs to read Al Gore's speech and calls it "one of the most important speeches I've heard in a long time."

And we should listen to Springstien's advice on politics because . . . ?

. . . Oh that's right, he's a musician. The only pundits with any credentials on the left are all entertainers of some sort.

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In lieu of a poem, and in honor of Cole Porter's birthday today, i present to you the lyrics to my favorite Cole Porter song. You may not have heard these lyrics because the song is more famous as an instrumental. It was band leader Artie Shaw's theme song, i believe.

Begin the Beguine

When they begin the beguine
It brings back the sound of music so tender,
It brings back a night of tropical splendor,
It brings back a memory ever green.

IÂ’m with you once more under the stars,
And down by the shore an orchestraÂ’s playing
And even the palms seem to be swaying
When they begin the beguine.

To live it again is past all endeavor,
Except when that tune clutches my heart,
And there we are, swearing to love forever,
And promising never, never to part.

What moments divine, what rapture serene,
Till clouds came along to disperse the joys we had tasted,
And now when I hear people curse the chance that was wasted,
I know but too well what they mean;

So donÂ’t let them begin the beguine
Let the love that was once a fire remain an ember;
Let it sleep like the dead desire I only remember
When they begin the beguine.

Oh yes, let them begin the beguine, make them play
Till the stars that were there before return above you,
Till you whisper to me once more,
'Darling, I love you!'
And we suddenly know, what heaven weÂ’re in,
When they begin the beguine

Happy one hundred and thirteenth birthday Cole Porter!

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Almost every day i see another example of the freakazoid left's infatuation with violence. You may remember i posted my theory on that subject here. i should make it a regular feature to post further evidence of my theory.

In today's Bee, there's a story about how the protesters in my old hometown of San Francisco failed to shut down the biotech conference. Some protesters "pushed conference attendees aside and shouted profanities" at them. As the police escorted the scientists and attendees into the Moscone Center (no doubt to protect them from hurled objects as much as hurled invective) the unwashed, jobless retards shouted the following peaceful slogan:

ARREST THEM! SHOOT THEM!

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i love adventure stories and WWII is a great source for true stories of escape and adventure . From every theater, it seems. Everyone knows that The Great Escape was based on actual events. And i'd highly recommend reading the The War Journal of Major Damon "Rocky" Gause, which is a true story about an escape from Bataan.

Here's yet another true WWII escape story, about a soldier from the historic 506th PIR, who took part in D-Day, only to be captured by the Wermacht, escape twice, get captured again by the Gestapo, get beaten and tortured, escape again, flee to the east, take refuge with a Russian tank battalion, fight with them for a month as they headed to Berlin, get wounded during an attack by Stukas, land in a Polish hospital, where he met Marshal Zhukov, and finally make it back to the US embassy in Moscow, where he learned that he had been declared dead. What an amazing story.

Link via Serenity.

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i'm pleased to announce that legislation has just been signed, which will outlaw Morissey forever. The bombing begins in five minutes.

Fuck him and fuck the lemmings who cheered him.

Link via Michele.

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During lunch today, i took a walk over to the Capitol Building and signed this book.

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My first memory of President Reagan is from November 1984. i was seven. My father asked me to take a walk down the block with him. We went into a neighbor's garage where there were little booths set up. People went into the booths and pulled a curtain behind them. i stood in line with my dad as he gave his name to a lady who handed him a card. Then my dad took me into the booth with him to watch him cast his vote for president of the United States.

It's fitting that my first introduction to democracy was watching my dad vote for Ronald Reagan.

Another formative experience of my life was the tragedy of the space shuttle Challenger on January 28, 1986. Like many children, i watched the launch on television with my class. It was horrifying. i'll never forget how President Reagan spoke afterwards, directly to us young people, sharing our pain and somehow giving us a way to understand that traumatic loss.

I want to say something to the schoolchildren of America who were watching the live coverage of the shuttle's takeoff. I know it is hard to understand, but sometimes painful things like this happen. It's all part of the process of exploration and discovery. It's all part of taking a chance and expanding man's horizons. The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. The Challenger crew was pulling us into the future, and we'll continue to follow them.

That last victory, his greatest, was not easy. And it was not certain. Reagan didn't stumble his way into it either. Victory in the Cold War was the almost uniquely held vision of this one great man. He alone among the post war presidents had the courage to say: "Let's win this thing. We can win this thing." When Nixon and Carter were trying to figure out how to co-exist with the Communists, when Ford was denying the Soviet domination of Europe, Reagan alone seemed to know that we would win, because we were better.

And he got us to believe it too. And we did win. Despite all the nay-sayers (funded from behind the iron curtain, by the way) who were shouting "nuclear freeze," Reagan rolled back the nukes, doing it from a position of strength and leaving our nation infinitely safer than if he had listened to the peaceniks. And when the left shook their heads after Reykjavik, saying we had blown our chance for peace, Reagan, by his courageous stand on principle, led us to the lasting peace that only victory could win.

i've been weepy all weekend. i, too, loved Ronald Reagan. i'm proud to have been alive while he was president. i'm proud that i'm a Californian, a Republican, an American, and he's a large part of those things. i've heard it said, and i fully agree, that if Ronald Reagan were president today, he'd know exactly what to do. i wish that were possible. But in a way, i'm glad he didn't realize how much trouble we've gotten into since we lost the blessing of his stewardship. He would have been deeply disappointed.

Or, perhaps i'm wrong about that. Ronald Reagan was an eternal optimist. And one of the great things about all the tributes of the past few days has been the long overdue recognition of his optimism. We should honor his optimism, by remembering it, and re-igniting it. What President Reagan said at the 1992 Republican Convention has been quoted often in the last few days, but i don't think it can be repeated often enough.

Well I've said it before and I'll say it again -- America's best days are yet to come. Our proudest moments are yet to be. Our most glorious achievements are just ahead. America remains what Emerson called her 150 years ago, 'the country of tomorrow.' What a wonderful description and how true. And yet tomorrow might never have happened had we lacked the courage in the 1980's to chart a course of strength and honor.

Recommended on topic: The Maximum Leader meets the President.

Also Recommended: Lileks, as always. Professor Hugh looks at the Democratic spin attempts. And Daniel Weintraub spins the President as a liberal.

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1 Amen

Posted by: Casca at June 07, 2004 10:42 PM (q+PSF)

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Posted by: Um Yeah at June 08, 2004 12:30 AM (KBwQo)

3 Cuba. Therapy. Spellchecker. In reverse order. Les.

Posted by: Lesmorte at June 08, 2004 03:55 AM (LFtoQ)

4 This is the best writing on Reagan that I have seen yet in blogs or in the mainstream media.

Posted by: ginger at June 08, 2004 05:43 AM (WX5CY)

5 how dare you make me cry so early in the day with such a heart warming post.

Posted by: missie at June 08, 2004 07:41 AM (m+/Dj)

6 "Good night, sweet prince." Extremely well put, Annika.

Posted by: Jason O. at June 08, 2004 08:27 AM (loMDg)

7 Well put Annika. Very well put. (And thanks for the link.) Although some have lamented the abundance of Reagan eulogies on the internet, I for one, think they are great. He would be very touched to read them all.

Posted by: The Maximum Leader at June 08, 2004 04:56 PM (0PRJS)

8 Annika, this is one of the best posts I've read. Thank you.

Posted by: Anna at June 09, 2004 11:17 PM (uvamW)

9 thank you annika- mainly from your past writings about Reagan, I have been promted to pick up one of his latest books "Reagan in his own hand". He truly was a visionsary. eg. "..our current tax system is simply a way of transferring wealth from the most productive members of society to the least"

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". . . You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done. . . ."

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The funniest sentence i've read in a blog this year has got to be the following, by Moxie:

I felt like Hilary Clinton, except without a cock. And a daughter.

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1 Annika, Nothing makes me happier than knowing something I've written made someone laugh. Thanks for the shout out! And yay for Marlboro ultra lights

Posted by: Moxie at June 04, 2004 11:17 AM (klzsl)

2 Ted Rall fisked! Awesome!

Posted by: Radical Redneck at June 07, 2004 12:51 PM (w7Tmy)

3 That is hilarious!

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Last week has not been easy. On Friday i moved into a room in the four bedroom house with my other new housemates Colleeen and Mike. Mike is a real sweetheart, very easygoing and funny. Colleen, i had forgotten, has a personality that tends to the negative and she can be a moody bitch a lot of the time. On Monday, for some reason, she decided she was going to be snippy to everybody, and i began to think i had made a mistake by moving in. But on Tuesday, she was back to normal. Weird. But i'm determined not to let her get to me. The house is great. The fourth housemate will be moving in tomorrow; it's another first year named Sherry or Shelly, i cant remember.

The Capitol City is like a small town with a few tall office buildings. After living in S.F. and L.A., i'm a snob. This is the provinces. But the people seem nice, and life is definitely slower than in L.A., if not the Bay Area too. On Tuesday, i started work at the local office of the law firm i've been at for the last couple of years. This is the third branch office i've worked at. They must like me. This operation is very small, only 5 attorneys, and i'm to be their part-time paralegal to help the full-time girl, who's going on maternity soon.

i still haven't seen Schwarzenegger, but i'm looking out for him. There's a few things i need to say to him regarding his job performance thus far. Some good, some not so good. The office had lunch at the Hard Rock Cafe the other day and i was joking about Arnie's failed venture with Willis and Stallone. What was it called? i don't even remember the name of it. No, i'm talking about the restaurant, not California. Overpriced hamburgers, bad service. Just like the Hard Rock. Damn, i can never remember the name of it.

i miss my family and Jason terribly. i feel weird, like i don't belong. i guess i'll get used to being here eventually. i'm planning to go back home for Father's day though, and i'm so looking forward to that.

Blogging is hard these days, because i work in a small office and the boss is always nearby. At home, i don't have a computer yet and i don't want to blog from my roommates' computers. It sucks. i really wanted to blog about Clinton's speech, which i saw last night. He was smooth wasn't he? Damn, that guy is good. Slick Willie, for sure. i plan to buy his book, by the way.

Gotta go, the boss is back.

Highly Recommended: Richie* on Sports at Candied Ginger.

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1 Planet Hollywood, kiddo. Darn. When I saw capital city, I thought you were coming to DC.

Posted by: Victor at June 04, 2004 09:19 AM (L3qPK)

2 I think the Governator tends to visit the Esquire Grill on 13th and K on a regular but intermittent basis... I should stop by one time and say hi to you since I'm in Sacramento like every week.

Posted by: Chris at June 04, 2004 09:28 AM (Wj1fh)

3 Perhaps we can both blog about Clinton's book on the same day -- it's on my list too! I haven't spent much time in Sacramento, but I did do the nifty California International Marathon there in December. By the end of the race, all I could think was that the town was too damned flat. And the summer heat... hoo boy.

Posted by: Hugo at June 04, 2004 10:09 AM (APlYz)

4 Oh bitch, bitch, bitch: I'm even more of a snob than you are and I'd trade Tallahassee for Sacramento without a second thought, so keep in mind that it's all relative. Provincial? Not even; this is nowheresville. Two and a half years and I certainly haven't gotten used to it, let alone ever felt I "belonged" here (thank God). But at least I'm not bitter. ;-)

Posted by: Dave J at June 04, 2004 11:32 AM (VThvo)

5 i spent a night in Talahassee when i was 12 years old. i remember it as a beautiful and sleepy town with lots of weeping willow trees.

Posted by: annie at June 04, 2004 11:39 AM (zAOEU)

6 Well yeah, but that gets pretty old after a few days. It'd be a nice place to take a leisurely drive through on vacation, but I wouldn't want to live here (oh wait, I do). With both the legislators and the students gone, it is absolutely DEAD. Not that I'm suggesting a full-time legislature like yours would be an improvement. [shudder] In fact, I think I remember Schwarzenegger talking about going back to a part-time legislature. California's due for a constitutional overhaul: that could go hand in hand with dramatically increasing the number of legislators, so their districts would be small enough to make for some genuine accountability. If NEW HAMPSHIRE, of all places, has 400 members in its House of Representatives, the California Assembly could certainly deal with 200 or more.

Posted by: Dave J at June 04, 2004 12:43 PM (VThvo)

7 Welcome to town, Annie! I'm sure that I'll see ya around Blu

Posted by: Blu at June 04, 2004 01:32 PM (lj3Ju)

8 You BETTER go to the 33rd Street Bistro before you leave. Or, spend $75 at the Supper Club. I'm sure that'll be easy for you...

Posted by: Chris at June 04, 2004 08:52 PM (Wj1fh)

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Not pool, poll.

i'm pleased to find that The Sacramento Bee is not afraid to tackle the big issues that are foremost on the minds of Californians. Here's some interesting data:

Lands' End catalog and online clothing company recently completed a survey of more than 1,000 women ages 18 and older. One-third wished for a multipurpose suit; two-thirds say they spend their summer doing a lot more than sunbathing.

. . .

[A] swimsuit, unlike a tube of lipstick, is anything but an impulse purchase. A lot of thinking goes into the buying. According to the NPD Group, a market research firm, nearly 70 percent of women make an outing of it.

. . .

[S]even out of 10 women own a two-piece bathing suit, designers recognize the average woman is still a size 14, so teeny-weeny bikinis, while great on the young, aren't as suitable for the young at heart.

. . .

'Believe it or not, one out of five women say they do yardwork or garden in their suits,' Thorson says. 'About 28 percent exercise in them.'

. . .

Venus Swimwear in Florida is 98 percent mail-order and online shopping, Randolph sees interesting demographics on what suits sell from coast to coast.

'East Coast goes more for a midrise, standard bottom; West Coast buyers opt for a retro, low-rise, California surfer-girl bottom.'

. . .

[T]hree out of four women spend less than $50 for a single swimsuit, most on sale. Two out of five expect it to last two years.

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1 A lot of thinking goes into the purchase? Well. Oopsie. I went to Target and bought the first one I saw that wasn't ugly. At least the last statistic sort of applies to me. I think I spent about $35. But I expect that it will last a lot more than two years (pretty much until it no longer fits), as I don't swim often.

Posted by: other Annika at June 02, 2004 11:30 AM (N3472)

2 Annie, take a break. I think that moving has addled your brain. Four days of silence and this is what we get? A treatise on swim suits? Go over to the Capitol and watch the legislature make sausage*. Then tell us what you think. * "Those who love the law and sausage should watch neither being made." Chancellor von Hindenberg

Posted by: shelly s, at June 02, 2004 08:39 PM (AaBEz)

3 Gone almost a week and you come back with swimsuits? Couldn't you have at least posted a photo? The State Legislator fog is descending upon you!

Posted by: Rich at June 02, 2004 09:14 PM (KpIwR)

4 So...where in the valley are you, Annika?

Posted by: Chris at June 03, 2004 03:22 AM (Wj1fh)

5 Shelly S and Rich you guys suck. SHe can write about whatever the fuck she wants. Give her a fuckin' break. If you don't like it don't read. And go troll for pictures somewhere eles ass hat.

Posted by: Mark at June 03, 2004 08:14 AM (R4Q9p)

6 Shelly, as someone who works for the legislature of a sister state (and who is an incurably pedantic nitpicker), I feel obliged to correct your attribution of the quote about laws and sausages. It was Bismarck, not Hindenburg. Hindenburg, while the last President before Hitler, was also never Chancellor. The Weimar presidency was largely ceremonial (although not quite as ceremonial as the current German presidency), so Hindenburg would never have had any legislative experience to premise that quote on. Bismarck, OTOH, as Imperial Chancellor and before that Prime Minister of Prussia, was on the floor of the proverbial butcher shop with the knives out for most of his life. All that said, it's basically true.

Posted by: Dave J at June 03, 2004 11:19 AM (VThvo)

7 Mark, I am most certainly not a troll, and I hope that Annika knows that Shelly and I are joking. Besides, I have all the photos I need. But thanks for sticking up for a fellow blogger.

Posted by: Rich at June 03, 2004 02:09 PM (V43HN)

8 I... need... my... annika... must... have... more... soon.

Posted by: d-rod at June 03, 2004 05:33 PM (bFVN1)

9 Just so you all know. I blog naked.

Posted by: Casca at June 03, 2004 06:12 PM (q+PSF)

10 Dave's right about the source of the quote; I'm wrong. One should be precise in these matters. The thought, however, remains the same. No sense in living in a Capitol, if you do not take advantage of the opportunities. And, none of us would want to see most of the women in that fair city in a bathing suit, so why the Bee choses to write about it is beyond me...

Posted by: shelly s. at June 04, 2004 06:30 AM (My8fB)

11 You're deliberately provoking me, arent you, Shelly? Here's some even more pedantic nitpicking: I may work in a Capitol (building), but I only come close to living here when we're in session. Or did you mean capital (city)? ;-)

Posted by: Dave J at June 04, 2004 07:30 AM (VThvo)

12 Clearly I need to clean up my act. Too many years with no one criticizing my style has made me bloated and careless. I stand corrected, once again. Living in the Capitol is not what one does, except during the budget sessions (now); the state Capitol is just a building, while the capital is the term that describes the city.

Posted by: shelly s. at June 04, 2004 10:49 AM (0GNJF)

13 I get paid to be hypercritical, which is amazing because I'd do it for free. ;-)

Posted by: Dave J at June 04, 2004 11:33 AM (VThvo)

14 Rich I didn't call you a troll, I said you were trolling for pictures. Big difference and it sucks that you're twisting my meaning. I'm not sure how those commments are 'coded' to be 'jokes', but they were ungracious, insensitive and unfunny either way IMO. That shit's not funny man.

Posted by: Mark at June 04, 2004 11:50 AM (R4Q9p)

15 And don't condescend me with your 'thanks'.

Posted by: Mark at June 04, 2004 11:52 AM (R4Q9p)

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