August 31, 2005
Faith In The Face Of Tragedy And Job
Disclaimer: This is a post i don't expect everyone to agree with.
Perhaps due to the ongoing disaster in the Gulf states, and some personal tragedies that have hit an alarming number of my blog friends recently, i've been seeing an unusual number of posts that deal with faith and tragedy.
It's the age old question. Why do bad things happen to good people? What does a person of faith do when tragedy strikes? How does one deal? What happens to a person's faith in an all-powerful and all-loving God when that God takes a loved one for no apparent reason?
One book of the Bible supposedly deals with this very question. It's the book of Job. Perhaps i'm not alone when i say that Job never really made me feel better for reading it. It's a strange book, and it's not a comfort at all, really. i read Job all the way through a few years ago. Let's just say i needed to read it at the time and leave it at that.
Basically, the gist of the story is this, as i recall. Job is a good and righteous man who's been blessed with a nice family and lots of money. One day, God makes a bet with the devil about whether or not Job will reject God if He lets the devil completely fuck with Job's life. So the devil kills all of Job's family, takes all his stuff, and gives Job boils on his skin.
Job gets pissed, but doesn't blame God at first. The devil continues to fuck him up, so Job asks a friend to talk to God for him. That ends up nowhere, and Job finally gets on the line with the Big Guy himself. Now God is pissed, and He says to Job (i'm paraphrasing) "Dude, why don't you create the entire universe in six days. Then you can come back here and pop off to me. Until then, shut your pie hole. I do what I want and you don't get to know the reason."
Now there are plenty of other parts in the Bible where one can go for real comfort in times of despair, but Job is not one of them. God doesn't come off looking very nice in Job, but that's not the point of the story. It's kind of the tough talk part of the Old Testament. We may not like the message, but we need to hear it at least once.
God's smackdown to Job, is one of the most awe inspiring and majestic passages of the Bible. It is hard reading when you're in trouble, though. You never thought God could be this sarcastic either:
From out of a storm,
the LORD said to Job:
Why do you talk so much
when you know so little?
Now get ready to face me!
Can you answer
the questions I ask?
How did I lay the foundation
for the earth?
Were you there?
Doubtless you know who decided
its length and width.
What supports the foundation?
Who placed the cornerstone,
while morning stars sang,
and angels rejoiced?
God goes on like this at some length. As they say, it ain't bragging if it's true.
Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
Have the gates of death been shown to you?
Have you seen the gates of the shadow of death?
Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?
Tell me, if you know all this.
What is the way to the abode of light?
And where does darkness reside?
Can you take them to their places?
Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
Yah, so God is the Big Boss and we're just piss-ants. But He loves us anyway. Whether we know it, like it, believe it or want it, He still loves us because He created us.
My favorite holy day of obligation in the Catholic Church is the Feast of Christ the King. It's the last Holy Day of the liturgical year, and i think it's placed there for emphasis. It's a reminder to me that God is ruler over all. The universe is not a democracy, it is a monarchy and we are subjects of the King, not his equals.
Therefore i think it would be the height of arrogance for me to presume to know the mind of God. That's the lesson of the tower of Babel, and of the Book of Job. WTF, we humans can't even understand how light can act like both a particle and a wave. We don't know why neurons communicate across synapses. And every day, giant squid and great whales a hundred feet long fight death battles at the bottom of the sea that no man has ever witnessed. So for me to decide whether God is acting justly or unjustly, based on my own infinitely narrow vantage point on the universe, well it's the height of arrogance as i said.
i could choose to be pissed off at my own powerlessness, or i could find freedom in it. i never understand why so many people waste so much energy trying to reason God into or out of existence. Or trying to reason the nature of God. My knowledge that God exists was never based on reason. That knowledge is itself a gift from God and it remains in me as a result of my faith, not reason.
So i go on believing whether or not God's plan appears fair to me. i don't get to know the plan. Is that a cop-out? i don't think so. i think it's the essence of faith. If my faith were dependent on things like reason or observation or argument, it would be a very weak faith indeed. Yes, even my own mind, smart as i am, was created by Him.
Who endowed the heart with wisdom
or gave understanding to the mind?
There are no easy answers. When i see tragedies like what's going on in the Southeast right now, it saddens me and i want to ask why, God, why. But i also know that i can never really answer that question. He may choose to reveal the answer to me in His time. But then again He may not, and how can i ever know. Bad things might happen to good people for no fucking reason simply because i'm not supposed to be in the loop. i tend to mistrust people when they presume to know God's plan, even if what they're saying comes from a compassionate heart.
So what does that mean? What about God's love that we hear so much about. Where does that fit into a universe that may or may not be cruel in a completely arbitrary way. Job asked:
from my deep despair,
I complain to you, my God.
Don't just condemn me!
Point out my sin.
Why do you take such delight
in destroying those you created
and in smiling on sinners?
Do you look at things
the way we humans do?
Is your life as short as ours?
Is that why you are so quick
to find fault with me?
You know I am innocent,
but who can defend me
against you?
It's not that i'm some kind of Deist who believes that God acts arbitrarily. i believe He has a plan, i just don't believe i can know it. Similarly, i have experienced miracles in my own life and i know from whom they came. God has taken very good care of me, and i don't know why.
It's the knowledge of my own inferior wisdom that has enabled me to never have a crisis of faith, even in times of despair. My spiritual weakness is one of devoutness, not doubt. i have crises of apathy, not belief. i'm going through one now, as a matter of fact. But God's love for this world is obvious to me every time i hear the Gospel. And that's what overcomes the pain i see at times too often to ignore.
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That's some good paraphrasing, in my estimation.
Posted by: d-rod at August 31, 2005 10:18 PM (OMriY)
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Well said. It's like a Sunday School lesson, only with more cursing.
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Isaiah 55:8-9.
Posted by: James at August 31, 2005 10:52 PM (blfs0)
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Annika, I can't say that I've ever felt a great deal of sympathy for your political views. And I think that your taste in verse is woefully deficient. But that was one of the most moving expressions of faith and conviction in the face of adversity that I have ever read. And I am not even a Christian.
Posted by: kennteoh at September 01, 2005 01:50 AM (WJ7Rm)
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If you don't mind humouring me, did you lift those passages of the Bible from the King James version?
Posted by: kennteoh at September 01, 2005 01:52 AM (WJ7Rm)
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It's funny how people can take away different things from the same story. In the story of Job, God and the Devil decide to "completely fuck with Job's life" for no apparent reason then their own amusement, much like the Dukes do to Louis in "Trading Places." Like many Old Testament stories I think it portrays a spiteful, vengeful God and I can not find in the story where it shows His "love for this world." I'm an agnostic but the times when I do believe or pray to God it is not one that would do what was done to poor Job.
Posted by: Shug at September 01, 2005 06:26 AM (U7X+u)
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Another stellar example of why you are on my daily read list. God has indeed blessed you with intelligence, wit and beauty. We are all the richer for it. Thank you.
Posted by: Phil at September 01, 2005 06:49 AM (/8ZVt)
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i agree with you Shug. The Gospels are the counterpoint to that whole Old Testament thing, which is the central thesis of Christianity, i guess. But that's a whole 'nother blog post and one i may not be equipped to write.
Thank you kennteoh. That was not the KJV. It was a combination of the Contemporary English and New International versions.
Posted by: annika at September 01, 2005 06:52 AM (zUJ0x)
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Thank you, Annika, for your essay here. I really do appreciate your insight. I wish I could write as well as you!
As you pointed out, we are His creations, so He can do whatever He wants to with us. We can never measure up to His standards, His Perfection. Yet, He truly loves us and wants to help us live up to His Ideal. And that is pretty awesome, if you ask me!
Thank you for sharing with us.
Posted by: Dave at September 01, 2005 07:57 AM (6GFTi)
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Don't forget that Job got off light in comparison to the first set of so-called "friends." After God goes through the entire "Who are YOU?" thing, he then goes to the friends and says, "You'd better have Job pray for you."
I guess the message, if there is one, is that things such as pestilence and destruction and death, while painful in the present, are relatively meaningless in comparison to everything. I can understand how a secularist cannot be comforted by the message, but God was speaking to Job, not a secularist.
I've had some personal incidents (a relatively died recently), and combining this with Katrina and the upcoming anniversary of 9/11, your post was timely.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at September 01, 2005 09:03 AM (FPdMX)
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I think the book of Job explores not so much the mystery of God as the mystery of faith. We'll never know why things are as they are. It's enough to know that they ARE, and that we're capable of responsible, compassionate action-- a fact that all of us, theist or atheist or nontheist or whatever, can agree on.
Good post, A.
Kevin
Posted by: Kevin Kim at September 01, 2005 09:18 AM (1PcL3)
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I think you've hit one of the central messages about G-d that most people, Christian or not, totally miss. Everyone acts as if G-d should be here to fulfill their every wish, make sure nothing bad ever happens, and everything should be all happy go lucky. They miss the point that G-d originally planned for it to be that way, but it was our own decision to chase after sin which led the world into the state it is in.
As to what happened to Job, I usually find comfort in another verse, "it rains on the just and the unjust". Paraphrased, sometimes bad things happen to good people. In the old testament the Jews believed that if something bad happened to you, then you had obviously done something to deserve it. Jesus pointed out to them that sometimes the world is a random place where bad things happen for no apparent reason. Such as hurricanes. And sometimes bad things happen so that G-d can be glorified in the outcome. We never know which it is, but it's our duty to serve Him regardless.
Great post.
Posted by: Charlie Gordon at September 01, 2005 09:42 AM (D3+20)
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Great post, Annika. Faith in a nutshell. Dave, I'd go one step further. Each of us CAN live up to his standards, every day...because He looks at us through the prism of his Son, Jesus Christ.
Posted by: DHammett at September 01, 2005 11:03 AM (J7BEJ)
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Fantastic post, Annika! I'm working hard to link you but I haven't been able to post in several days. I'm in Munu hell.... :-/
Posted by: Pam at September 01, 2005 01:33 PM (V4CbT)
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"It saddens me and i want to ask why, God, why. But i also know that i can never really answer that question."
Perhaps you can know the answer. The answer is (I believe) that the entire earth and everything in it was designed so that humanity can experience all that there is.
Notice that there is hot and cold. Love and hate. Peace and war. Friends and enemies. Hard and soft. Up and down. Left and right. Work and play.
And safety and danger. Stability and chaos.
This is New Orleans's time of chaos, and our countries time to choose whether to be generous or not. Whether to help and pray for N.O. or not.
None of us were forced to take a human form, to take our parents and families and live where we live. Indeed, a God of love would hardly want or need to thrust us onto a planet to deal with challenges. We choose to do so. Why? Same reason grown men choose to play challenging sports knowing the risks; for the same reason young people go to law school: for the challenge, to know that in the face of a test, you overcame and you conquered.
New Orleans will overcome and it will conquer. It will take years, and the media will never cover it, but it will happen. For now darkness abounds, and things seem bleak. But we know that nothing lasts forever. Not even the worst hurricanes.
Posted by: Mark at September 01, 2005 01:53 PM (Vg0tt)
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My dear Annie, I've been reading you for over two years; this is my favorite post you've ever put up. Little sister, it's brilliant; your last paragraph made me say (under my breath), "yes, yes, yes."
Posted by: Hugo at September 01, 2005 09:16 PM (Yu24L)
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I would echo the other posts that it was like a great Sunday School lesson with bad language. I similarly know there is a God, he loves us, we are here in this life for the purpose to become more like him. One of the purposes of this life is to experience trials and make correct choices. Job isn't a place to go (in my opinion) for comfort. Some of my favorites are the Psalms. Thanks for the essay.
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Posted by: Will at September 02, 2005 01:18 PM (pilPg)
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You might consider "Putting God on Trial: The Biblical Book of Job".
Posted by: Robert Sutherland at September 03, 2005 06:44 AM (mq2O4)
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Wednesday Is Poetry Day
Searching for a poem about New Orleans this week was easy.
Charles Bukowski:
Young In New Orleans
starving there, sitting around the bars,
and at night walking the streets for
hours,
the moonlight always seemed fake
to me, maybe it was,
and in the French Quarter I watched
the horses and buggies going by,
everybody sitting high in the open
carriages, the black driver, and in
back the man and the woman,
usually young and always white.
and I was always white.
and hardly charmed by the
world.
New Orleans was a place to
hide.
I could piss away my life,
unmolested.
except for the rats.
the rats in my dark small room
very much resented sharing it
with me.
they were large and fearless
and stared at me with eyes
that spoke
an unblinking
death.
women were beyond me.
they saw something
depraved.
there was one waitress
a little older than
I, she rather smiled,
lingered when she
brought my
coffee.
that was plenty for
me, that was
enough.
there was something about
that city, though
it didn't let me feel guilty
that I had no feeling for the
things so many others
needed.
it let me alone.
sitting up in my bed
the lights out,
hearing the outside
sounds,
lifting my cheap
bottle of wine,
letting the warmth of
the grape
enter
me
as I heard the rats
moving about the
room,
I preferred them
to
humans.
being lost,
being crazy maybe
is not so bad
if you can be
that way
undisturbed.
New Orleans gave me
that.
nobody ever called
my name.
no telephone,
no car,
no job,
no
anything.
me and the
rats
and my youth,
one time,
that time
I knew
even through the
nothingness,
it was a
celebration
of something not to
do
but only
know.
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I survived Katrina. My college(UNO) is half flooded. My family's home in central Mississippi didn't have power for 48 hours. I've got more blogging time since I have an early vacation from school that will at least last a couple weeks. I'm a dirty attention whore: shower me.
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very uplifting. thank you
Posted by: mike at August 31, 2005 10:44 PM (rcqfR)
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Normally I don't read Charles Bukowski...but any poem with rats in it is automatically a good poem.
as I heard the rats
moving about the
room,
I preferred them
to
humans.
I know where he's coming from.
Posted by: Victor at September 01, 2005 07:16 AM (L3qPK)
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August 30, 2005
NPR Opinion Piece
i just read one of the dumbest things i've read in a while.
"Lack Of Mandate On Iraq Haunts Bush," by Ron Elving, NPR's "supervising senior Washington editor." Knowledge of history or political science seems not to be a pre-requisite for his job. On the contrary, the ability to produce a slanted argument from out one's butthole looks like an asset.
While the premise―Bush's lack of a mandate on the Iraq War―is reasonable enough, the op-ed piece went downhill soon after the byline. Elving's theory, no doubt taught to impressionable young minds when he was a professor at Georgetown's Graduate Public Policy Institute, is that "the scope of [a president's] plans must be matched by the breadth of [his] support.
Elving calls this the Rule of Proportionate Mandate. i cannot find any mention of such a rule in my own library, but never mind. It seems reasonable when applied to republics such as ours. That is, as long as one ignores the historical exceptions to the so-called rule. The plans of Lincoln, FDR, Truman and even Churchill are the most obvious examples.
But this quote here is a real doozie:
Before invading Iraq, the administration of President Bush needed the broad backing of three constituencies: the Iraqi people, the international community and the American public. In each case, the administration heard just enough of what it wanted to hear to conclude it had sufficient support. In each case, it was wrong. [emphasis added]
i love Elving's new take on Kerry's "Global Test" doctrine. Did you catch it? Not only should America have the support of certain foreign powers before acting in its self-interest, but America should also have the support
of its enemies before going to war!
Wow. This guy was teaching graduate students? In D.C. no less. That's scary.
Elving goes on to re-state the tired old canard that the "Coalition of the Willing" was really a disguise for unilateral action. Never mind the much debated question of whether the over 48 countries who initially signed on to help us were "window dressing" or not. Since when has the commander-in-chief been prohibited from exercising the war powers unilaterally? There is no such requirement in Constitutional law or history. Let's be clear. A president has never been required to seek "the broad backing of the international community." That's complete hogwash. i'll agree that international support is nice to have, but true leadership does not find it necessary before acting.
Then Elving says that support for the war has never been an overwhelming majority such "as in the case of Pearl Harbor or the invasion of Afghanistan." Again, hogwash. In January 2004, for example, 65% of Americans polled by the Pew Research Center thought that the war in Iraq was the "right decision," versus only 30% who thought it was the "wrong decision." Note that support for the war continued to lead by 20 points or more even when Bush's approval rating dipped below his disapproval rating a few months later, according to Pew.
Elving might rightly point out that previous support for the war has eroded today,* but for him to say that it never existed is a lie, and he should know better.
[cross-posted at A Western Heart]
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* In my opinion, this is thanks to a combination of consistent media negativity and consistently inept public relations at the White House.
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Fine, fine post. Apparently taking the right course of action first requires that many, many groups of people nod their heads in robotic unison first.
By the way, in future posts, I grant you permission to substitute "hogwash" with "buffalo chips."
Posted by: Mark at August 31, 2005 02:25 AM (UESXD)
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Great piece, annika. I thought you might like to see
this, in which an Iraqi politician talks about who *isn't* helping the Iraqi people. It's a touch long, but well worth watching.
Posted by: Victor at August 31, 2005 05:35 AM (L3qPK)
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I forgot to include what I see as The Money Quote:
We do not hold ourselves accountable. This is why America came to demand that the Arabs be accountable. We must have more self-confidence and be accountable before others hold us accountable. We must discipline ourselves before the Americans and English discipline us. We must maintain human rights, which we have neglected for 1,300 or 1,400 years, to this day - until the arrival of the Americans, the Christians, the English, the Zionists, or the Crusaders - call them what you will. They came to teach you, the followers of Muhammad, how to respect human rights.
(That's what I get for previewing for once...)
Posted by: Victor at August 31, 2005 05:38 AM (L3qPK)
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Annika,
There was wide support for the war in JAn 2004 as you say, but only because the American public and the OCngress, had been misled into believing that there was a connection between Iraq and 911. Chaney said it so many times, "Yes, Saddam was involved in 911" even after others in the government including the pinhead himself admitted in a news conference that there was less than conclusive evidence of his involvement, that the basically under-educated American voter, believed in the connection. (Chaney clearly learned something about lying from the Nazi's) So asked if the assult on Iraq was the 'right" response, they were answering affirmatively, but they had been lied to.
Had the facts in evidence been put on the table there would have been little support for the destruction of Iraq.
And for you, a shootingly bright girl, not to recognize the "coalition" as a sham is incredible.
Posted by: Strawman at August 31, 2005 11:11 AM (0ZdtC)
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Strawman, it's difficult to know if you're teasing us or you're serious because your entire line of reasoning has been disproven over and over.
Saddam and 9/11 were very much connected, and Saddam and terror and al Queda were even more connected. This is illustrated in Stephen Hayes's book "The Connection." You need to read it.
Your condescension toward the average American ("the basically under-educated American voter, believed in the connection. [Chaney clearly learned something about lying from the Nazi's"]) is shameful. Is it any wonder that the average American voter isn't voting for your side anymore?
No one lied to anyone, and you know it. Even if you're correct, whatever the President said regarding WMD had been repeated by President Clinton, his staff, major Democrating Senators, and the United Nations. Please stop hiding behind this "Bush lied" slogan simply because we did not find a CostCo worth of nukes.
45+ countries lending our support is a "sham"? Please tell this to Italy, Poland, the UK, Australia, and the Netherlands especially. Funny how some DEMANDED an "international coalition" and when this President finally gets country after country involved, it's a "sham"? What kind of appreciation is this?
Posted by: Mark at August 31, 2005 11:37 AM (IEm1x)
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Even after Pearl Harbor, FDR by no means had an absolute mandate for his strategy. Many were opposed to the "Germany first" policy estalished by General Marshall, pointing out that after all it was Japan, not Germany, that had attacked us. Sound familiar?
Posted by: David Foster at August 31, 2005 01:15 PM (SpkYG)
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It's a simple thing really. There are only two schools of thought in this instance. You either run to get in front of where the chattering classes want to go, or chart your course by the light of reason as God has given you to see it. The former is feckless political self-interest, and the latter leadership. Any questions about who is who?
Posted by: Casca at August 31, 2005 04:05 PM (qBTBH)
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Mark,
I think you prove my point about the average American voter.
The lies are obvious, whether Clinton or any other official spoke them, they were lies. No, Mark, it is not enough say nobody believes that old story and poof it disappears. The lies were and still are believed by millions upon millions of Americans. No WMD, no Uranium diffusion, no germs, no support of the 911 crew, no nothing except a pre-existing condition of traitorous neo-con strategists bent on inserting America's reach into the oil fields of Iraq and environs. I think I would rather listen to Richard Clarke than your hack Hayes. Condi spoke out of both side of her reptilian little mouth. He was at every meeting; he was out of the loop. Aluminum tubes ring a bell Mark? Mobile germ warfare station ring a bell Mark? The war will cost less than a billion dollars ring a bell Mark? What crap and 2000 young men and women are dead. The right is notorious for dragging out these hacks to spew the party line. How can we forget David BrockÂ’s attack on Anita Hill? Bought and paid for by the VRWC and a lie.
Read something critical you fool
http://mediamatters.org/items/200406300014
Weekly Standard staff writer and author of the book The Connection: How al Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein Has Endangered America (released on June 1 by Rupert Murdoch's publishing house HarperCollins), Stephen F. Hayes has appeared in recent months on numerous cable and Sunday talk shows to support his contention that there was indeed a connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. Despite vigorous critiques that have undermined the credibility of Hayes's contention, conservative pundits have embraced Hayes and his book in order to, in the words of Center for Strategic and International Studies fellow Daniel A. Benjamin, "shore up the rickety argument that Baathist Iraq had posed a real national security threat to the United States."
Just another hack and you my good man are his dupe.
45 countries who lent minuscule support and only because they were threatened with reprisals. We threaten everybody. We wonÂ’t send money to countries that donÂ’t tow the line. Yesterday the military busted a career procurement officer because she expresses her outrage at the KBRoot contracts with the government. Valerie Plame, ring a bell?
Mark you are a living a dream, a sick destructive vile militaristic dream about AmericaÂ’s motives and worth.
ChaneyÂ’s Mentor-
Later, Joseph Goebbels put forth a slightly different theory which has come to be more commonly associated with the phrase big lie. In this theory, the English are attributed with using a propaganda technique where in they had the mendacity to "lie big" and "stick to it".²
Posted by: strawman at August 31, 2005 04:33 PM (0ZdtC)
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Anita Hill? You lost me there.
Anyways, my position is well known. Given that i believe the move against Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do regardless of the existence of WMD at the time of the invasion, i don't really care whether Bush was wrong about that particular justification or not. i don't believe he lied, but if he did, i don't care because Saddam had to go.
By the way, one reason i don't believe he lied is because he hasn't planted WMD, which he could have easily done. If Bush were as diabolical and without conscience as many of his critics say he is (and someone who would intentionally start a war solely to enrich himself and his rich cronies can only be described as diabolical and without conscience) i don't understand why he wouldn't have planted WMD to silence his critics by now. Nixon certainly would have.
Another reason i don't believe Bush lied is because i have been following the debate since it started, and i have yet to hear an anti war argument that is persuasive to me, personally. i have used my own judgment, and i've tried to have an open mind, but i simply have not heard a single argument against our strategy that outweighs the argument for it.
This is not to say that i've found all criticisms of Bush's Iraq policy to be completely without merit. Just most of them. If things eventually work out in Iraq, as i believe they will, the strategy will be vindicated. The trick is to make it work, and since we're in it now, i think it's insane to work against our success there.
Posted by: annika at August 31, 2005 06:58 PM (3I5eq)
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Annika,
We are supposed to believe this man because he did not commit capital crimes (planting WMD) so therefore he is honest and would not lie? You're funny. This is the most repellent, and childish rationalization I have ever heard. Nixon would have, and he lied about his knowledge of the break in, so W didn't plant wmd, therefore he lied about nothing. You went to college right?
How about this, Clinton didn't have "real" sex with Monica and he could have so I don't think she really blew him.
And what will you say if things don't work out in Iraq? Then will you care about the many ever changing justifications and the perjury he committed before Congress and the American people? This adventure will NOT work out. America has had ZERO success at making these things work out. You find yourself scratching your head and wondering if he chose the wrong dictator? Maybe it should have been Bashar al-ASAD of Syria? Or one the Saudi pigs? Pinhead chose the one in who's country women were the most liberated in the ME, the one with a secular government and the most western way of life. They all murder and torture and are repelled by the "freedom" George is trying to spread. So what was so special about Iraq? Was Saddam's aggression against Kuwait worse than ours against him? At least there was a connection: Kuwait was arbitrarily ripped from Iraq by the British and was a provence of Iraq. You think Texas is nice and we deserved to keep it, right? You do remember it belonged to Mexico and we took it because it started to look like it was part of the US. And had Mexico been able to raise a large expeditionary force, invaded and punished the States that would have been a bad thing, right?
Terrible rulers are as common as ratus ratus, my dear, and most of them owe their lives to the good old US of A, Saddam certainly did, Rummy used to give him big hugs and Dad would have licked his ass up and down the Euphrates as long as he was fighting the good fight against Iran. Was he not an evil man then? Were his rape rooms empty, and his mass graves un-dug? Who made that gas he used on those pain in the ass Kurds? We liked him then and had no moral problem, we dislike him now and we feign a moral problem to get at the oil. That is all. The rest is bullshit. And now we have a president who is too dumb to even know the difference, talk about a guy living a dream. He is a student of nothing and an expert at faith and we all know where faith gets you. AlGathafi was evil incarnate for a while, we shot up his house and killed his kid or wife, but then we lost interest. What about all the Latin American dictators we installed and supported, Batista (SP), Somoza, Pinochet just to name a few. Honey, we love dictators, rapists, torturers, destroyers of freedom as long as they are kind to our business interests, when they are not we call them commies and try to kill them or in this case substitute terrorist state for commies and scapegoat them. This took the heat off the real villians, the rest of the Bin Ladens, and the Arabs with their derricks up our butts and our cash in their banks.
Remember that dream I mentioned the other day? Please try waking up.
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i noticed that you didn't refute the argument about planting WMD, but that's okay. i didn't expect to persuade you, but i do think it's interesting.
Your diatribe demonstrates that you think my country has done some terrible things. Maybe so. Maybe we don't deserve all the territory we stole by Guadalupe Hidalgo. What should we do? Give it back? It's pointless now to argue about that, so i don't understand why you'd bring it up in the comments to a post about a guy who wrote a thing that i think is stupid.
You anger at this country in general and the president in particular is unfocused, illogical and a little scary. Again, i ask you to seek help. Watch more Hannity, drink my brand of Kool Aid. i gaurantee you'll feel better. The world is what it is, but it isn't as bad as you think.
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Posted by: annika at September 01, 2005 09:30 PM (Xafzf)
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Annika,
A quick response:
The texas example was to help you understand that history is the great equivicator. Yes, we can't give back Texas but it should and can help us judge and respond to situations that are occuring currently. THe US is and has been for most of its existance a selfserving, morally repugnant blight on the earth. Not entirely but the pan of the scale tips prescipitously to the bad. We have the potential to do the most good and have for the most part chosen to do less and in so many instances have gone to bed with the devil. We give the most in foreign aid only when judged in raw dollars and the least when evaluated as a percent of our countries wealth. It is a disgrace yet we pound our chest with pride. And when we give aid we always attach strings. We try to shape the internal policies and morals of the receiving society in ways we don't even try at home. If a clinic mentions abortion as a possibility to a client we withold aid. If a country supports sex workers and treats them as men and women who do an honest days work we won't give aid. The RR gets its way with this "faith based" administration in so many ways its a scandal.
I won't even get into our militaristic adventures.
Gore Vidal is more my speed than that ignorant prick Hannity. A genuine lying sack of shit like those he defends.
Enough.......
What color did you say that cool aid was? Cerise? Azure? and the vintage? I like my cool aid French
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The wonderful
American Princess took it upon herself to do the whole Cotillion Ball this week. Having done one fourth of the hosting myself, i have to tip my hat to her, it is quite a task, and she did a great job. Go take a look at the best work from the members of the Cotillion
here. And if i may highlight one selection, please don't miss Beth's retelling of
her visit to Camp Reality in Crawford, Texas.
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What is happening in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast is awful. i had no idea this storm's aftermath would be so severe. And it looks like only the beginning.
i watched Fox News this morning and Shepard Smith was saying that his crew was planning to leave. He thought that by staying, they would be taking resources away from the victims. i think that's a mistake.
This is one case where the media can do more good by covering the story as much as possible. Yah, i never thought i'd say that either. This disaster looks worse than anything i've ever imagined. It needs to be reported, so people can help with donations or in any way they can.
My suggestion to the media would be to spend money. Make the crews self sufficient and join in the relief effort. Fuck the rule against becoming part of the story, they never follow that rule anyway. They should bring bottled water. They should also continue to keep emergency workers informed about what they see or people who need rescuing.
Update: Journalist and Louisiana expat Ken Wheaton has much more.
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Agreed, I have much family in the area and I'm VERY concerned. The more information we have, the better.
p.s. Thanks for the thing at MuNu.
Posted by: Stacy at August 30, 2005 09:36 AM (9OdDd)
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as an ex-Louisiana native, (my sister lives two hours drive north of NO, and still does not have power.) I can tell you that in the aftermath of a big storm is a lot of clean up. The bad thing is all the dead animals. You go back to your home, and even if you escaped with little damage, you might find a rotting deer carcass in your yard or a couple of dogs, rats, snakes ect.
Posted by: Kyle at August 30, 2005 01:51 PM (Krzco)
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Aaron Brown replayed some of the Jeanne Meserve reportage tonight. Both of them give me hope that yes, journalists can show a human side. Amazing stuff.
Posted by: annika at August 30, 2005 09:01 PM (cJsT2)
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Can anyone give me a detailed update of how bad it is in New Orleans? I'm in Iraq and other than seeing the Superdome and the superficial stories in the Stars and Stripes, I haven't been able to find a lot of detailed information. Although I live in Montgomery, AL, when not deployed to the Middle East, I went to law school at Tulane and would be interested to know how my former home city fared.
If someone has specific details (i.e., garden district, CBD, warehouse district, French Quarter) I'd be grateful. Yes, I know the roof of the Superdome came off, but I am more concerned about the neighborhoods I used to know and love.
To anyone with information, please accept my thanks in advance for sharing it with someone out of the information loop.
Posted by: James at August 30, 2005 11:49 PM (blfs0)
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I took two classes during law school abroad thru Loyola U. at New Orleans. I went to the website seeking my former professors' e-mail addresses in vain. I hope they're alright.
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Gun Nut Progress Report
As a brand new gun nut, i thought it might be interesting to give you regular updates on how things are going.
i've now shot a total of 150 rounds through a pistol. The Sig Sauer P226 is still the gun to beat, in my estimation. But i recently tried two other guns, which i'll critique for you from my novice's viewpoint.
The first was a Kimber Tactical Pro II in .45 ACP caliber. i did not like this gun. First of all, it dang near took my arm off. Big bang, big kick. That's to be expected from the larger cartridge, i imagine. But i know the Kimber's sights were off, too. Look at the photo of my target. You'll see that nothing hit to the left of center out of 50 rounds at ranges from 7 yards to 25 yards. i think that's unusual. It also shot low and i had to compensate by aiming above the bullseye, which was annoying. i normally line up the sights just below the bullseye.
Also, the Kimber's grip was too short and didn't feel right. The gun was double action only and had a grip safety and a thumb safety. i liked the idea of two safeties, but i'd rather have a single action option because i tend to squeeze the trigger very slowly and watching the hammer go back was distracting to me. i want to try another .45 just to give them a fair shake, but i wouldn't buy a Kimber. They retail for over a thousand and i expected better for that kind of price.
Most recently, i tried the Browning BDM 9mm. Now, after researching this post, i learned that the BDM can be switched from "double action" to "double action only" by use of a little slotted swich on the side. i noticed the switch at the range, but since nobody told me what it was for, i didn't mess with it.
The Browning was nice, despite some problems. i found it to be accurate at all the distances i tried. It fit my hand comfortably and the trigger was easy to squeeze. It's a good looking gun and it was well behaved when it didn't jam, which was too often for my liking. The range dude said it probably needed cleaning. Also, the slide sometimes failed to lock open after the last round was fired. i expected a little more from the famous Browning name, but it was a fun gun to shoot. i still prefer the Sig Sauer's big bright sights. The Browning's sights had smaller dots and one of them had been rubbed off on my rental gun.
Next week i think i'll branch out and try a revolver.
P.S. Last night, i had a dream that i met Kim du Toit. What's happening to me?!
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Give the Glock 9MM a fling.
Posted by: shelly at August 30, 2005 07:12 AM (M7kiy)
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In particular, give the Glock 17 or 19 a fling. Stay away from the 26 for now; even in wimpy cartridges like 9x19, the baby Glocks have enough recoil and muzzle blast to teach a new shooter bad habits. I'm a strong advocate of learning the fundamentals on easy, non-abusive guns, and having them firmly ingrained before moving to more challenging fare. If you learn bad habits now -- and the chief teachers of bad habits are recoil and muzzle blast -- you'll have a damned hard time unlearning them. It's probably just as well if you stay away from the Kimber for now, for precisely that reason.
That said, methinks you're being a bit too hard on the Kimber, accuracy-wise. A "tactical" or "combat" pistol like the Kimber should be accurate
enough -- and, judging from your groups, the Kimber appears to be. It's almost certainly not intended for a six o'clock hold like you're describing (that's usually reserved for bullseye), and range and choice of cartridge (muzzle velocity) will affect elevation to some extent, too; any or all of those may have contributed to your group being a tad lower than you expected. The front sight might need to be drifted right a bit, although lighting problems can cause rounds to strike left or right of the apparent point of aim.
Posted by: Matt at August 30, 2005 07:56 AM (10G2T)
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By the way: Nice shootin', kid. ;-)
Posted by: Matt at August 30, 2005 07:56 AM (10G2T)
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Annika,
ItÂ’s nice to see you having so much fun and exercising your rights. I wonder if you got any feedback from Freddie L. Cranshaw before he went out and had a little fun too exercising his rights. I wonder how tight his groupings were, or if anybody noticed he was insane before they sold him his cache.
Remember, nobody ever got shot by someone with out a gun.
You know as well as anybody that guns don't stop crime nor do they don't make anybody think twice about committing a crime. Most gun crime involves people who know or loved each other and that most regretted what they did and wished they had just cooled off instead of picking up a gun. I canÂ’t verify this next statement but I would wager that more people are killed accidentally with fire arms than the number of armed citizens successfully protecting themselves with their weapon(s).
A fellow I know, runs the check cashing place by the projects, was gut shot a few years back for the bank bag he was carrying at the end of the day (he lived). The stupid assholes (and yes most criminals are stupid) wanted his bag not realizing that at the end of the day check cashers are going to the bank with paper, not cash, but the point is the check casher wears a revolver in plain sight. So instead of just hitting him in the head or pointing a gun at him, the thieves KNEW they had to shoot him. This was his big benefit for having a full carry permit.
I have another true story, if youÂ’ll indulge me? A friend of mine, we shall call him Bill, has only a target permit but carries his Glock in his suite jacket pocket. One day he interrupts a robbery in a furniture store in a strip mall. He sees a gunman menacing the female cashier and he starts to sneak towards the front of the store to help. Along the way, an unseen accomplice gets the drop on him and orders him to the front of the store. BillÂ’s gun is still not visible. While walking to the front, Bill who is now convinced he is going to die, drops to one knee, turns and shoots the guy in the neck, killing him. The second gunman leaps over the cash counter and get two rounds off missing Bill both times. Bill shoots back and hits him twice. End of robbery. The second guy lived. LotÂ’s of issues here to be sure. Bill should be dead but lucked out and the robbery might have proceeded with out any violence if not for BillÂ’s intervention. Bill can, in NY, go to jail for his involvement, but he lied to the police and said he was carrying his Glock in the box and took it out of the car so as not to leave it unattended while he shopped on his way to the target range. Bill having acted so heroically the authorities did not push on this matter. Since that incident, Bill has drawn his gun on two black men he though wanted to rob him in a deserted parking lot, no shots fired and he has stuck his gun through the car window of a driver he thought was harassing him.
Annika, I do not feel safer in a society that has more guns in the hands of citizens do you? Those who enter criminal enterprise and use guns I can do nothing about, but I am not convinced that more guns in the hands of citizens is the antidote. If you want to target shoot, just rent the use of a gun and have fun there is no need to take it home. If you are compelled to shoot animals; therapy is a better choice than going into the woods with a rifle. One will raise your self esteem while the other makes you question your sanity as you confront your homicidal impulses. (yes, yes, you hunters can turn the last sentence around but IÂ’ll leave it anyway)
Criminals don't run from guns, they shoot first while citizens hesitate. Or they just run amok exercising their right to be crazy and refuse medication.
For the record, I have shot hand guns, killed animals with rifles but came to my senses as I grew older.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/beararms.htm offers some real questions about the nature of the second amendment.
There is plenty of room for debate on the constitutional issue but far less room in the court of common sense.
Posted by: Strawman at August 30, 2005 09:39 AM (0ZdtC)
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I thought I was looking forward to the jeopardy questions, but these posts are my favorites by a long shot now. Strawman's comment is just comedy gravy on a heathly serving of gunpowder-seasoned goodness.
Posted by: Trevor at August 30, 2005 10:46 AM (RwZxT)
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Strawman (how apropos),
You're kidding me. This is a fucking joke, right? Seriously. No?
Well then, congratulations. You may have just set a record for volume of shit spewed in under 1000 words. It's utterly mind-boggling. Let's look at just a sample.
"You know as well as anybody that guns don't stop crime nor do they don't make anybody think twice about committing a crime. Most gun crime involves people who know or loved each other and that most regretted what they did and wished they had just cooled off instead of picking up a gun. I canÂ’t verify this next statement but I would wager that more people are killed accidentally with fire arms than the number of armed citizens successfully protecting themselves with their weapon(s)."
That entire paragraph displays jaw-dropping ignorance. Start by reading Kleck's "Targeting Guns", which summarizes a lot of the most relevant evidence. The best estimate is that the ratio of defensive gun uses to gun crimes (even very loosely defined) is between 3:1 and 5:1. The problem of heat-of-the-moment acquaintance killing is tremendously overblown. It arises from the fact that a significant proportion of violent crime victims are acquainted with their attackers. Childlike, kumbaya-singing anti-gunners like you picture thousands of loving moms and dads getting into spats over the decor for the remodeled bedroom and ending up dead, because it fits your preconceived notions of guns and the people who own them. The truth is that the statistics don't not distinguish between such people and, for example, rival gang members from the same neighborhood. Which group do you honestly suspect contributes most to acquaintance homicide. (Hint: This question is intended to test your sanity.) As far as whether guns make anyone think twice about committing a crime, see Wright's & Ross's "Armed and Considered Dangerous." (Brief summary available
here.) Wright & Rossi found that 40% of convicted felons they surveyed said they had ever decided not to commit a crime because they feared the intended victim was armed. (That's 40% who had done it at least once. No word on how many were repeat deterees.) 34% said they'd been "scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed citizen."
You want to talk Second Amendment? Don't even try until you've read these:
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You, sir, are a Buffoon First Class, and I hereby award you the Fucking Simpleton's Cross with Oak Leaf Cluster and Bronze "A" for arrogance.
Posted by: Matt at August 30, 2005 11:18 AM (10G2T)
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matt,
check into what they defination of "strawman" or "straw argument" is.
I know it got pissed just reading the frist paragraph....then i stopped and was looking for the joke.
Annika,
Frist, I would suggest trying everything with the gun if it is unloaded. Unless you are on some funky time limited range or something like that. Take you time with a gun, dry fire it, rack the slide, press the switches, just make sure the thing dry fires correctly before you fire it (you might have hit the take down lever or somthing).
If you like the multipe safties on the Kimber, try the spring field XD. It is a glock with a grip saftey (with a grip angle of the kimber you fired).
Posted by: cube at August 30, 2005 11:40 AM (nyNr0)
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in general, the audience for this blog is pretty vocal about the second amendment. Strawman brings up some interesting points which i'm sure will be addressed thoroughly. My own thoughts are not necessarily in line, but i'll need to wait until later to write them.
Posted by: annika at August 30, 2005 12:00 PM (zAOEU)
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Miss Annika,
Addicting, no?
A lot of handguns have fixed sights. This is more or less to keep the sights from shifting under moderate to heavy use. What the proper thing to do is take a handgun with fixed sights, establish a load you're going to use in it (say Remington 230 grain Golden Sabers asopposed to Federal 230 Grain Hydrashoks) & then have the sights adjusted (or adjust them yourself) to be where you want them at. Everybody looks at sights slightly differently, so if my sights are adjusted for me & the way I shot that won't mean that they'll hit exactly where you'd expect. Don't judge a handgun too harshly cause the sights aren't lined up exactly with the point of impact.
Also your technique will cause a change in sight picture. with the Sig you mainly shot it single action. With a double action only you have a longer, heavier trigger pull. That usually means you'll pull your shots to the right a bit.
The feel not being right for you though is something you should pay attention to. with handguns it's especially important to have a good feel & if one model doesn't do it for you then you should pass on it despite any other virtues it has.
The Browning - they have a good rep & for a reason. However any firearm that is neglected will not perform well. You're working with rental guns that get cleaned when they absolutely have to be. If you were shooting mine or Matt's or any other serious gun nuts handgun odds are you'd notice it was fairly well cared for & in good operating condition despite the brand.
But ammo has something to do with things too. As do magazines. A lot of feed problems in semi's are attributable to A: ammo B: magazines or C: inadequate maintenence. It's possible that you just had a bad combination of all three (like there's a good combination).Were ya using range ammo? As in reloaded or range brand ammo? or were you using a recognizable name brand of commercial ammo? The frustrating part is that some ammo just isn't liked by some firearms, no matter how otherwise reliable it is. If the slide wasn't locking back all the time then either something is wrong with the slide catch (very possible in a well worn rental gun) or perhaps the ammo wasn't as powerful as needed to be to work the slide reliably.
But in general you're doing real well. Honestly you're shooting better than I do with handguns & "proud" wouldn't be appropriate mainly because it doesn't convey that emotion enough.
Dreaming about Mr. du Toit though? Hopefully it involved a range trip - a shootin range trip? The again compared to the met'ro'seks-uls in your current enviroment perhaps it was trying to show you it's time to walk a different path? Yeah; it be nice if you escaped to Colorado, but Texas wouldn't be someplace I'd bitch about considering wher eyou're at
Posted by: Publicola at August 30, 2005 02:05 PM (vC8Ev)
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cube,
I'm fully aware of what a strawman is, but I'm pretty sure he's serious. Unless someone has decided to adopt his identity, "Strawman" is Mike from, e.g.,
this comment thread, and this one, and especially
this one. I'm pretty confident it's the same guy. Same condescending tone, same lack of hesitation to spout off without evidence, and the same e-mail in all cases.
Posted by: Matt at August 30, 2005 02:22 PM (10G2T)
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Dream away, Annika. But you'd be better off dreaming about a Browning High Power (single-action only), one of the best pistols ever made.
Note: ignore Glocks, which are ugly plastic things, spoiled somewhat by their excellent reliability and decent accuracy.
Get over to Dallas sometime, and we can get you shooting some decent handguns.
Oh, and never mind the GFWs (Gun-Fearing Wussies) like Strawman.
Shoot lots, shoot safely.
Posted by: Kim du Toit at August 30, 2005 02:44 PM (gOz51)
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Annika,
Contrary to what Mr. Toit says I wish you well in your gun play. Enjoy the feel of a finely made gun, revile in its power and smell. Feel its heft and the density of the loads. Come to know the death and destruction it was designed to cause and then move on. People like Publicola are stunted and dim, lacking in imagination and breadth; imagine devoting vast blocks time on such a thing. Listen to the tenor of his voice as he extols the virtues of guns to you and welcomes you to his fold. Remind you of anything?
Hello Matt,
Why don't you take a pill, and breathe. I am not entering your house and taking your guns. I have suggested that there is some serious debate over the meaning of the 2nd Amendment and I suggest that the constitution be interpreted now and then with an eye toward the notion that what was salient and deemed necessary in 1775 may not be so today. I don't want the limited vision of the framers necessarily dictating the course of the society I live in today without a little bending of the meaning of the original language from time to time. This has been referred to as a “Living Constitution”. Just as “rights” have been found that specifically were not mentioned e.g. privacy, some “rights” that appear to have been mentioned may not need protection today, e.g. the right to bear arms. I think it is pretty clear that an armed citizenry, able to form itself into a viable militia, rather then “troops” of the central government, was the goal of the authors. They were concerned that the government not have the right to disarm the people and then use troops to impose unfair and unjust policies. I hope you’ll agree that that is no longer an idea with any merit. Did you read the Miller decision?
Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, Book V, Ch. 1, contains an extended account of the Militia. It is there said: "Men of republican principles have been jealous of a standing army as dangerous to liberty." "In a militia, the character of the labourer, artificer, or tradesman, predominates over that of the soldier: in a standing army, that of the soldier predominates over every other character; and in this distinction seems to consist the essential difference between those two different species of military force."
"In all the colonies, as in England, the militia system was based on the principle of the assize of arms. This implied the general obligation of all adult male inhabitants to possess arms, and, with certain exceptions, to cooperate in the work of defence."
This appeal concerns the constitutionality of the Village of Morton Grove's Ordinance No. 81-11, n1 which prohibits the possession of handguns within the Village's borders.The district court held that the Ordinance was constitutional. We affirm.
Matt, you think this gives citizens the right to carry a hand gun or to hunt? Any State could prohibit hunting in a minute, or taking your rifle out of your house. The amendment allows you to own a proper musket and ammunition and keep it at the ready and if needed to meet on the common to fight to defend your liberty. Nothing more.
I think your argument distinction about that the amount of gun violence between people that know each other is specious. You agree that most gun violence is between people that know each other but assume that since two rival gang members know each other they are part of the data base which includes husbands and wives, uncles and other family relations. Then you arrogantly assume that the familial component of the data base is insignificant and the gang violence significant. Why? Compared to the small number of people in gangs the numbers of familial relations is staggering. It is only reasonable to assume the violence in that group is far and away more prevalent regardless of how violence prone the gang members are. What do you think the ratio of citizens to gang members is?
I will look into the stats you quote on guns used for defense. I think you numbers are wrong but IÂ’ll wait and see.
I read the summary of the Rossie article. Nothing new, most criminals that use guns donÂ’t buy them in gun stores, so? So, are you against background checks, keeping the records and waiting periods?
I will also not call you names and lump you into a group that may not hold or want you.
And yes I was mike. Not hding.
Posted by: Strawman at August 30, 2005 04:57 PM (0ZdtC)
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Strawman,
I'm working on a more in depth refutation of your initial comment, but I can't let the second one slide.
Stunted? 9 out of 10 of yo' women would disagree. The tenth would remain silent cause your mother is like that. Dim? by contrast that would make you a black hole, which would also be a useful analogy in regards to your claims that I'm stunted.
Lacking breadth & imagination? That's amusing as well.
Now Casca would be the first to point out that one of my faults is being a long winded bastard, but I doubt even he would come close to the depth of personal attack you've tried to initiate. You wish to discuss the lack of merits of what you were saying? Fine. I can be as civil as you'd hope for. But I'm not above aking this to a game of deoens like you ain't never done seen before. I'm barbaric, remember? (you implied that w/o directly stating it).
Always amazes me that those "emlightened" folks of the socilaist/statist persuasion rely on name calling & denial of facts rather than using logic as a basis for their disagreements.
As I said I'll have a substantive response to your initial comments directly. & right now I consider us even (mor eor less) so it'll be up to you to decide if you wish to conduct yourself in a rational manner, or if I have to get ghetto on your ass. If th elater come to my blog as miss Annika doesn't need the band width going to me schooling you in insult & derisions.
Posted by: Publicola at August 30, 2005 06:47 PM (vC8Ev)
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"Listen to the tenor of his voice as he extols the virtues of guns to you and welcomes you to his fold. Remind you of anything?"
Almost forgot about that part. Tell me, what is it reminiscent of? ow can you extrapolate the tone of my voice from fairly static type? Would that also be the clairvoyance that should allow gun dealers to judge the intentions of those they sell to?
What it should remind a perosn of, & what I assume miss Annika views it as, is a friend trying to help another friend become self reliant & independent. I want her to be able to defend herself. I don't want her to rely upon the state, or perhaps even worse, a statist such as yourself. I would much rather she develop an affinity for the shooting sports that would translate into an increased ability for her self protection than to see her take your view & be at the mercy of any violent confrontational criminal who wanders into her life.
But please do tell me what it's supposed to remind her of.
Posted by: Publicola at August 30, 2005 06:54 PM (vC8Ev)
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If you can believe it, in my dream Kim responded to my email invite by flying to San Francisco of all places, so we could chat about blogging and Browning. But of course that could never happen in real life because neither Publicola nor Mr. du Toit would ever set foot in that city, i'm sure. Anyways Kim, i read your old review of the Browning HP, and it's on my list. Thanks Publicola for easing my mind about those sights. i will try to watch that rightward pull on DAOs next time. As for the ammo i used in the BDM, i saved the box. It says "Magtech 9mm Luger 7,45g (115gr.) FMC (9A)" whatever that means. And my range requires that you buy their brand for use on the range, but it's retail, not handloaded stuff.
Posted by: annika at August 30, 2005 07:59 PM (cJsT2)
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"You know as well as anybody that guns don't stop crime nor do they don't make anybody think twice about committing a crime."
Strawman, with regard to gun possession and the Constitution, I regret that you are uninformed. Please read CAREFULLY John Lott's "The Bias Against Guns." Imagine Joe DiMaggio hitting a baseball. That's how easily Lott refutes your statements on guns.
Posted by: Mark at August 31, 2005 02:38 AM (UESXD)
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Miss Annika,
You'll find that for almost unexplicable reasons some firearms perform really well or really poorly with a specific kind of ammo. If you're lucky yours works well with the cheap stuff, but the one that comes off the assembly line right before yours might only do well with the expensive stuff.
But be careful; some ranges will use handloads packed in factory boxes. they're not so much trying to defraud you, it's just the factory boxes are for some unexplicable reason very convenient for storing ammo in
Magtech though is usually decent stuff.
& there are circumstances where I would set foot in San Fran, but I doubt that the people of that city will call me to help liberate themselves from Cali.
Mr. du Toit though doesn't have the same opposition as I do. Oh, he wouldn't be happy about it, but I know he's been to Chicago recently & Chicago is much worse than Cali. Then again there is another circumstance that would cause me to go to Cali...
A few years back my then g/f went to Mexico for a few months. I feel the same about Mexico as I do about Chicago but I found myself planning a trip there. Course said trip was for the purpose of rescuing said g/f while holding off the entire damned country but still...
& the box - 9mm Luger is a common name for the 9x19mm cartridge, also called the Parabellum. Parabellum came first as it means "for war" (if i recall my german correctly) & since it was the chambering of the Luger pistol eventually 9mm Luger became more commonplace. 115 gr is the weight of the bullet (which I know you knew, or would that be I mu you nu?) FMC means Fully Metal Contained which more or less just means the lead is totally covered by a jacket of metal (presumably copper) 9A is just the product code to distinguish that 115 gr FMC load from the 6 other 9x19mm loads w/o having to write it all out. Btw,
your bullet should have been traveling at around 1,135 feet per second.
Strawman,
Here's a more thorough reply to your initial comment.
Posted by: Publicola at August 31, 2005 04:58 AM (vC8Ev)
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mmmmmm chicks n' ammo.....
Posted by: Pursuit at August 31, 2005 06:51 AM (n/TNS)
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Publicola's reply to "Strawman" will probably send him back to Moxie's under a new alias where he can again pretend to be gay.
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Mike/Strawman,
Whoa there. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We're not done with your original comment:
Your response tells me that you aren't familiar with Kleck, or Wright & Rossi (and you completely missed the point of my cite to W&R). In other words, you haven't read or even heard of some of the leading literature on guns and crime. I'm no criminologist, and I don't claim to have read everything that's been written on the subject. But this is not esoteric stuff I'm citing here; anyone who wants to be able to consider himself reasonably well-informed on the guns-crime issue simply
has to be at least passingly familiar with them. If you were familiar with Kleck, and Wright & Rossi, but disagreed with them, I could at least respect that. But you're not. You're simply ignorant. That's inexcusable in anyone who presumes to hold forth on this subject with sweeping statements such as yours. The results of Wright's and Rossi's interviews,
alone, completely demolish your claims that "guns don't stop crime nor do they don't make anybody think twice about committing a crime" and "Criminals don't run from guns, they shoot first while citizens hesitate."
If you want a little more detail about acquaintance crime, let's do so. The anti-gun groups commonly trot out statistics about crime among families and acquaintances in order to support their claims that most "gun violence" results from tragic, heat-of-the-moment incidents involving otherwise decent, law-abiding people who could not control themselves in the presence of a gun. In a claim reminiscent of that stupid old movie,
Reefer Madness, they assert that the mere presence of guns leads to homicides by encouraging otherwise sane, law-abiding people do to bad things when they're upset. (They lump in acquaintance crime with family crime, despite the fact that we know almost nothing about the actual relationships between the parties in acquaintance crimes, because it boosts their numbers.) That's an important argument for them, because if it were true it would suggest that by severely restricting the availability of guns among the law-abiding -- the group of people most likely to obey gun laws -- we could significantly reduce crime.
But the only "evidence" for this proposition is that a majority of violent crime -- IIRC, about 55% in the case of violent crime other than homicide, and an unknown proportion of homicides (but likely greater than 50%) -- is committed by family members and friends or acquaintances of the victims. This is a non sequitur. One cannot conclude from the aforementioned facts anything about the state of mind of the offenders, whether they loved or liked their victims, whether the crimes were premeditated, whether the criminals "regret" their actions, whether they acted in the heat of some sort of passion, or whether they were ex ante law-abiding people. All we know is that people are somewhat more likely to be victimized by someone they know, at least in passing, than by someone they've never seen before. (Which makes perfect sense, since most people aren't likely to have many beefs with complete strangers.)
So
are these offenders generally law-abiding, peaceable people before they commit their violent crimes? The several studies that I've seen or read of suggest that they're not,. For example, most estimates conclude that between 70% and 90% of domestic homicides are preceded by incidents of violent abuse. (The studies have been limited in geography and time, so the results have varied. I have seen no good national-level data on this question.) About 3/4 of domestic homicide perpetrators (depending on what study you look at) have adult criminal records for violent felonies or burglaries, and more than half (in most studies) of their victims also have criminal records. Juvenile offenders appear even
more likely to have violent criminal records, and their records appear to be more serious on average. IIRC, similar numbers apply for most people who commit violent crimes against victims with whom the offender has no preexisting relationship. It does not appear, empirically, that violent criminals are average, peacable, law-abiding people suddenly gone bad in the heat of one moment; instead, they seem largely to be criminals doing what they've been doing for years. The truth is that violent crime in this country is largely a problem of a violent criminal underclass. If you are not a member of that underclass, you are not very likely to commit or be victimized by a violent crime, even if you own guns -- or perhaps
especially if you own guns. (And note that if crimes of passion "caused" by the presence of firearms really were a significant proportion of violent crimes, we'd generally expect to see relatively high numbers of homicides where firearms are readily available. But the states and localities with the highest gun ownership rates tend to have relatively fewer homicides than those with very restrictive gun laws.)
As to my supposed arrogant assumption that, "that the familial component of the data base is insignificant and the gang violence significant," the fact is that roughly 1/6-1/5 of violent crimes, including homicides, involve an offender who is a family member or person in an intimate relationship with the victim. That's a pretty small proportion, compared to friend and acquaintance crimes. Period. And I can't help it that DOJ's definition of "acquaintance" is in fact broad enough to encompass the relationship between rival gang members, between a prostitute and a john, between a drug dealer and drug buyer, between a bookie and a bettor, or between two strangers who strike up a conversation in a bar. We don't know for sure how many non-family acquaintance murders fall into those counterintuitive "acquaintance" relationships. (There's no particular reason that I know of to think that it's not a significant proportion.) But by the same token, there's simply no persuasive evidence of which I'm aware to support your claim that "Most gun crime involves people who know or loved each other and that most regretted what they did and wished they had just cooled off instead of picking up a gun." If such evidence is out there, please provide it.
Moving on to the Second Amendment, I'm not sure I see the point of a debate. Debate requires a minimal set of shared assumptions. Since I am not a living constitutionalist (I view that theory of constitutional interpretation -- if indeed it deserves to be called a theory -- as a lawless usurpation of powers shared by the States and Congress under Article V of our Constitution), I don't think you and I have that minimal set. You can quote me Quilici v. Morton Grove or Cases v. United States day long, and I simply don't care because I view those cases as wrongly decided and intellectually dishonest. Likewise I can quote you the Founders, and eighteenth and nineteenth century commentators and cases, all day long, and it won't matter because you simply don't care about what the Founders (and/or the ratifiers of the 14th Amendment) intended the Second Amendment to accomplish. We can discuss United States v. Miller, and I can explain to you why it's a strongly pro-individual rights decision that implicitly vindicates my right to own a machine gun; but even if I persuade you of that fact (which is true, by the way) you'll simply say that the Court was insane and that, even if they were right as a matter of original intent, times have changed. So what's the value in this exercise?
While you're at it, who are the participants in this "serious debate" about the meaning of the Second Amendment? Explain. What is the subject of the debate, exactly? Whether the Amendment secures an individual right? It clearly was intended to, if that's what you mean. Even Larry Tribe now agrees, reluctantly. (Of course it doesn't do so as a practical matter because a great many judges are committed to ignoring the Second Amendment, but that only indicates that many judges think might [the judicial power] makes right, no matter how intellectually bankrupt they may be.) So is the debate about the scope of the right, what is and isn't permissible in the field of firearm regulation? What?
There is one thing that I can't let pass without comment, though. You claim that, "The [Second A]mendment allows you to own a proper musket and ammunition and keep it at the ready and if needed to meet on the common to fight to defend your liberty. Nothing more." Are you serious? So I suppose you believe the Fourth Amendment doesn't protect the data on your computer, because computers didn't exist circa 1790? And the government can freely censor online speech because the Internet didn't exist circa 1790, either? And freedom of the press applies to the New York Times only as long as it uses circa 1790 printing presses? I hereby award you a second Oak Leaf Cluster for your FSC.
Oops, I almost forgot: Even the anti-gun scholars concede 65,000-80,000 defensive gun uses per year (an estimate that is deeply flawed for a number of reasons that Kleck explains). According to the
CDC (Table 12), in 2002 there were 762 accidental deaths by firearms, nationwide. Since 65,000 is a whole lot more than 762, your "wager that more people are killed accidentally with fire arms than the number of armed citizens successfully protecting themselves with their weapon(s)" is out the window, even accepting gross underestimates of total DGUs. Wrong again.
Posted by: Matt at August 31, 2005 01:50 PM (10G2T)
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Annika, I came by way of Publicola's place. Glad to see that you're learning to shoot. If 9mm is your thing, you might want to try a Springfield XD9. I bought one for my daughter to use, and she loves it. Fits her well and shots well. I like it as well, but I'm more of a 1911 kinda guy.
As far as what Strawman has said, it is unimportant, and we do not hear his words.
Posted by: Bill at August 31, 2005 06:49 PM (Tx0EW)
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i haven't shot a Springfield, but i've looked at their website because they make a replica WWII style 1911. i also noticed that a cool looking gun in the movie Sin City was made by Springfield Armory. i was shocked to see that they are made in Brazil though. i mean, i don't want to sound prejudiced, but when i think precision machinery and quality control, i don't think Brazil.
Posted by: annika at August 31, 2005 07:08 PM (3I5eq)
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Actually Taurus makes some decent stuff & they're based in Brazil. Matter of fact I have this nice little affordable 12 gauge side by side shotgun that came from Brazil. & if I recall right Harley-Davidson engine blocks are made in Brazil. we ain't talking things that will be looked at by artisans 300 years form now as a sign of our prowess with metal working, but if cared for they'll probably still function.
Course shame of it is Brazil passed some major gun control laws recently.
Posted by: Publicola at September 01, 2005 12:24 AM (vC8Ev)
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It looks like another Eloi has accepted his fate of being Morlock food.
I have a spare tire in my trunk ... I do not fear flat tires.
I carry a firearm ... I do not fear evil.
If he ( or the state, acting as his agent ) comes for my firearms, I will simply kill them.
Posted by: Kristopher at September 01, 2005 01:07 PM (lupHh)
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"If you are compelled to shoot animals; therapy is a better choice than going into the woods with a rifle. One will raise your self esteem while the other makes you question your sanity as you confront your homicidal impulses."
Deer are a good dinner. Therapists write notes, nod and say "hm-mmmmm . . . ."
On the whole, the deer is better company.
Anyone who doesn't appreciate the subtlety of the differences between a deer and a therapist has spent too little time with deer and too much time with therapists.
Posted by: jerry the geek at September 02, 2005 12:44 AM (zWQj7)
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If you want to give .45 another try, rent a Glock 30. It is the softest shooting .45 I have ever used.
Posted by: g at September 02, 2005 09:09 AM (eXUzJ)
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Let me be the first to compliment Annie's fine collage.
Her t-shirt reveals the letter "IG" and "SAU"
"Pig sauce"?
"Big Sausage"?
Posted by: Mark at September 04, 2005 02:06 AM (qI3ib)
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...just wandered over here from Instapundit, via Kim do Toit. It *IS* fun, isn't it Annika?
Just a coupla thoughts:
For fun & practice, try a .22. They're easy to shoot, easy to pay for (including the ammo) and even moderately priced ones are accurate.
Revolvers: your experience will depend heavily on how the grip fits your hand. Fortunately, they are hugely adaptable, so you needn't live with the grip that came on the gun. Look for something that fills the space behind the trigger guard.
Posted by: Doug at September 13, 2005 10:26 AM (TEZnx)
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The Kimber is a single action only gun.
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The only major problem I've had is that your comments window never remembers my personal info. Aside from that, no problem.
Kevin
Posted by: Kevin Kim at August 30, 2005 02:41 AM (TDwc6)
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Who are you again? Do i know you?
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Annie, I tried a few posts and all were rejected.
Let me know when this problem is fixed or you move from mu.nu.
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i'm donating to
Catholic Charities.
While local agencies along the Gulf Coast anticipate that they will be provide some type of emergency assistance in their communities, Catholic Charities' niche in disaster relief is to provide long-term recovery work. In fact, Catholic Charities agencies in Florida are still providing services to help people recover from last year's devastating hurricanes.
Based on past disasters, possible long-term services that Catholic Charities may provide include temporary and permanent housing, direct assistance beyond food and water to get people back into their homes, job placement counseling, and medical and prescription drug assistance.
i trust Catholic Charities more than the Red Cross or United Way, whom i believe skim off the top worse than a mob run casino.
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I have to admit I'm torn here. My company might begin matching offers on donations, but only through the United Way. Ugh.
They can't possibly skim 50% off the top, can they?
Posted by: Trevor at August 31, 2005 09:50 AM (RwZxT)
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Finally, The Jeopardy Winner
i'm sorry for the delay. With the hurricane and all, i was unable to post before today.
Okay, so i'm in California. i knew that. Well the real reason is that i was in moving and had no electricity. i thought i'd be able to post via my telephone but then its battery went dead. So i was completely blog incommunicado for four days.
But i hope you'll find the long awaited Final Jeopardy round as exciting as i did. The category was "The Blogosphere," and the clue was
annika has almost all of his TV appearances on DVD, yet this blogger is not on her blogroll. Go figure.
As in the TV show, we start with the player who has the lowest amount of cash. Kyle said "I got nuthin," by which i assume he means he wagered nothing too. So Kyle stays at $200.
Next is Ken, who said: "I bet my whole wad on Wil Wheaton." i'm sorry Ken, the judges cannot accept that answer. You lose your whole wad, $200.
Jasen and Skippy didn't play FJ, so i'm keeping their money.
Next is D-Rod, who responded: "Who is Victor David Hanson?" Nope. D-Rod wagered $399, so he now has $1.
Charlie had $400, but didn't submit a response, so i keep his money.
Phil had $500, and his response was "Who is Frank Sinatra?" Last i checked, Frank Sinatra was dead. Although his music lives on, i don't think Sinatra's music has a blog. Phil wagered "$0.00," so he's left with $500 and the lead.
Next is Shelly, who responded
Damn, I hate this game. I am compulsive by nature, and I have made this an addiction. I'm glad it is over an I can get back to my mundane life.
OK, at first, I thought it was gonna be Hugh Hewitt for sure, but I checked and he IS on your blogroll, so that fizzled out.
Then I said (to myself) 'Myself, who has been on TV enough to have Annie have taped him, and yet not so much that her house would be running over with discs, etc.?'.
Myself replied 'The only person I can come up with is a guy who's show was canceled for some inexplicable reason (well, he seems less offensive on the radio, I guess) from Northern California named Michael Savage.'
So, trusting Myself, and having no other thoughts . . . Who is Michael Savage?
Uhh, no.
Let's see what Shelly wagered. His entire $1000. Sorry Shelly, you're down to zero.
Next is Victor, who guessed "Who is Will Wheaton?" Ding. You are correct, Victor. Spelling does not count in Final Jeopardy. Victor bet all $1100, so he now has the lead with $2200.
Dave J was next with $1400, but this was his response:
Since I'm completely stumped, I'm not betting anything: I can't even think up a good guess, though I'm sure I'll be kicking myself about how obvious it was after this is over.
And now you've motivated me to try out again, and pester the hell out of the real show to call me back this time.
Dave's $1400 won't be enough to take over the lead from Victor. But good luck on the real Jeopardy, Dave.
Casca started out with the second highest point total, at $1700. Ever confident, Casca responded with "Who is Hugh Hewitt?" aaaaaaa! Like Shelly said, Hugh Hewitt is indeed on my blogroll. Casca bet the whole thing, so he is now down to zero.
Finally, it's all up to Trevor, who starts out Final Jeopardy with the most points, $1900. His response was "Who is Wil Wheaton?" Nice job Trevor.
Now let's find out if Trevor wagered enough to beat Victor.
more...
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Posted by: Me at August 29, 2005 07:06 AM (QpQGg)
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Woohoo! I'd be jumping up and down right now, but I'm at work. Ah, what the hell...
Posted by: Trevor at August 29, 2005 08:16 AM (RwZxT)
Posted by: Victor at August 29, 2005 08:33 AM (L3qPK)
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Am I still in third place and therefore in line for some stupid concession prize? ;-)
Posted by: Dave J at August 29, 2005 08:35 AM (8XpMm)
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Let this be a lesson to all who are tempted to play bullshit arbitrary games on the internet. When the hell was Will Wheaton on TV?
Posted by: Casca at August 29, 2005 09:31 AM (qBTBH)
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BTW, I'm not buying your bullshit absence excuse. I'll bet there are burn marks in your fur.
Posted by: Casca at August 29, 2005 09:32 AM (qBTBH)
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That's what I was waiting for. Thanks for delivering the excuses, Casca. I was hoping for a kirk-like scream though, something like: FIXED! Speaking of whom, we all know that he would have kicked Picard's ass. Hell, that sniveling excuse for a captain would have gotten his ass kicked by his own snot-nosed ensign, and apparently nobody even remembers who that was...
Posted by: Trevor at August 29, 2005 10:12 AM (RwZxT)
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(heartily rogers buzzer)
WHAT IS MITOSIS??
Ah, shit. It's over, isn't it.
Fuck.
Kevin
Posted by: Kevin Kim at August 29, 2005 10:37 AM (1PcL3)
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Heh, it was a good time until you showed up mid-game with your alert system to let you know when anni posted. Hell it was still a good time. The warning was against playing these game that suck up time.
Posted by: Casca at August 29, 2005 11:59 AM (qBTBH)
Posted by: Mark at August 29, 2005 12:20 PM (Vg0tt)
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Some metro-sexual from NYC. Kind of an Ally McBeal male.
Posted by: Casca at August 29, 2005 12:31 PM (qBTBH)
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BTW, Where TF is Hewitt on your BR?
Posted by: Casca at August 29, 2005 12:40 PM (qBTBH)
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I have to admit I'm disappointed Joe Don Baker, or one of his movies, wasn't an answer. Or question. Whichever.
Posted by: Victor at August 29, 2005 12:58 PM (L3qPK)
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Casca, Professor Hewitt, under "non mu_nu blogs I like"
Posted by: Trevor at August 29, 2005 02:58 PM (GtBBB)
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The only "Professor Hewitt" I ever knew taught Theater at the U of M.
Posted by: Casca at August 29, 2005 03:31 PM (qBTBH)
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Okay, I'm ready to play for real money now.
Posted by: d-rod at August 29, 2005 03:55 PM (xmskQ)
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I just like rubbing it in. Hugh Hewitt. Great radio show host, but I can't imagine that anyone outside his family is busily burning his TV appearances onto DVD.
Posted by: Trevor at August 29, 2005 04:51 PM (GtBBB)
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if i say that listening to the Hugh Hewitt show is the highlight of my day, would he put me back on HIS blogroll?!?
And i can't believe so many of you don't know that actor, author, blogger Wil Wheaton played Ensign Crusher on Star Trek TNG during the first four seasons.
Dave J, you get the same prize as Trevor!
Posted by: annika at August 29, 2005 07:23 PM (TNZYM)
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"And i can't believe so many of you don't know that actor, author, blogger Wil Wheaton played Ensign Crusher on Star Trek TNG during the first four seasons."
What hetero man would care?
Posted by: Casca at August 29, 2005 10:05 PM (qBTBH)
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For once, I must agree with Casca. Write this date down.
Posted by: Victor at August 30, 2005 08:03 AM (L3qPK)
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What hetero man would whine so much?
Posted by: Trevor at August 30, 2005 09:56 AM (RwZxT)
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Unfortunately I was out of town for several days last week and didn't get to submit my answer. Which doesn't really matter, because I would have gotten it wrong anyway.
But I am glad this is finally over so I can quit obsessively clicking my link to Annika 1,000 times a day.
Posted by: Charlie Gordon at August 30, 2005 10:18 AM (D3+20)
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Mu.nu Back Up
Many thanks to
Beth,
Michelle and
Basil for allowing the free trackbacks and links while Mu.nu was down.
Since the blog was unavailable for most of Tuesday, i will extend the Final Jeopardy deadline until 11:59 p.m. Pacific time, Thursday night. Or until all players have submitted their responses. Right now, we're still waiting for Charlie, Skippy and Jasen.
For future reference, my old Blogspot blog will be my backup blog. You can find it at http://annikagyrl.blogspot.com/ or just google "blogspot annika."
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I'd like to shut down my Blogger site, but it still has roughly 2000 old posts. I can't transfer to MuNu more than 999 posts at one time (somehow I got to over 1200). Pixy knows about the problem but doesn't seem to know what to do about it. I've asked fellow Munuvians about how to get my categories to work, and with exception of one patient Canadian blogger, everyone either ignores you or just directs you to someone else whenever you have a problem or question. Then in the last 3 months, the servers have been shut down atleast 3 times.
Pardon me if I am not impressed.
Posted by: Mark at August 24, 2005 01:36 PM (Vg0tt)
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Then there's Munuvians like Mark who, when handed $100, get angry because it's not $101. Whiner.
Posted by: Victor at August 24, 2005 05:21 PM (l+W8Z)
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The pain is endless.
Go Google yourself.
Posted by: shelly at August 24, 2005 08:12 PM (M7kiy)
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Welcome back. I was on vacation/business travel for three weeks and didn't read much of anything, and when I went to visit your journal, I ran into the munu problems. So I had to do my American Skankwoman research
all by myself. As Barbie would say, "American Skankwoman research is hard."
Again, welcome back. And I'd like to buy a vowel. (Oops, wrong game.)
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at August 25, 2005 08:21 AM (bGyIu)
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It doesn't matter OE. You could win yet. The rules here are very flexible and as amorphous as the mind of a woman.
Posted by: Casca at August 25, 2005 08:36 AM (qBTBH)
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So, Annika... the chickens come home to roost! We won't be hearing any more "Glogger" cracks in the future, will weeeeeeee? Having a paid site is no guarantee of reliability! Mooooo-ha ha ha ha!
Kevin
not really a Blogger advocate, but hoping to play one on TV
Posted by: Kevin Kim at August 26, 2005 06:31 AM (TDwc6)
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I used to have a dog like Annika. Every couple of months, he'd disappear for a couple days at a time. Then he'd come back looking a little worse for the wear and tear. Cuts, hungover, once he had burn marks in his fur. I guess we've all been there. They say all the dogs in town look like him now. I never go back there.
Posted by: Casca at August 27, 2005 10:04 AM (qBTBH)
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Casca, I had a cat just like that...Big Cat Stud was his name ("Stubby" to his friends). Once he disappeared for about a week and I figured he had been hit by a car. He came home, ate like a pig, then slept for two days straight. My roommate and I figured he was AFO'd.
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I'm beggin' ya.
Please, let this madness end.
I don't even care anymore.
You can have my money, my car, my first-born; just quit this stupid, addictive game.
Posted by: shelly at August 22, 2005 07:21 PM (6krEN)
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Shelly, keep your first born, but send me your money and your car. I'll make sure this all ends very quickly.
C
Posted by: Casca at August 22, 2005 08:54 PM (qBTBH)
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You must know my son...
Watch it, he reads this blog.
Posted by: shelly at August 22, 2005 09:15 PM (6mUkl)
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LMAO, I assure you, they're all alike.
Posted by: Casca at August 22, 2005 09:30 PM (qBTBH)
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Shelly's son is on the blogroll!
Posted by: annika at August 22, 2005 09:49 PM (kIAho)
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He might be, for all I know.
He's a film editor now, and spends 16 hours or more in the editing room when he's on a show, which is now, and the other eight doing whatever his wife and kid want him to do, or going to NASCAR with his buddies.
I just heard they are coming over Sunday afternoon. I haven[t seen him in about two weeks, so it'll be nice to catch up.
It's OK, as long as I get to hang out with the grandkids, he can go back to editing or NASCAR or whatever.
At least he's a Republican, which is worth something, or maybe he is a DTS. Well, at least he is a conservative.
Posted by: shelly at August 23, 2005 03:11 AM (6mUkl)
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What are ya remindin' people for? Let them lose all on their lonesome!
(You're one of those who doesn't let people call their own hands playing p0ker, aren't you? Did you know p0ker is banned from Munuvian comments?)
Posted by: Victor at August 23, 2005 05:09 AM (L3qPK)
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LMAO, ah Kev u r a wit. Good thing you're in Korea, it is the land of perverts, but that's a good thing.
Posted by: Casca at August 23, 2005 06:32 AM (qBTBH)
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Soryy Kevin, I just checked the list and you're not on it.
You think I'm kidding? Four kids, all four of their spouses, and nine grandkids.
You try memorizing 17 people's birthdays, let alone anniversaries and other assorted celebrations. And that doesn't include either my wife or ex.
Sorry about that, but you can apply if there is an opening.
Stay tuned to this blog...
Posted by: shelly at August 23, 2005 07:36 AM (6mUkl)
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More politics please. Less Jeopardy.
Posted by: M at August 23, 2005 04:51 PM (Vg0tt)
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BOOOO! NO EXTENSIONS!
Oh, and munuvia is back. Just thought you should know.
Posted by: Victor at August 24, 2005 11:31 AM (L3qPK)
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glad your back, I got nuthin.
Posted by: Kyle at August 24, 2005 03:35 PM (4t42C)
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Jumpin' Jiminy Cricket, annika, when're you gonna announce the final results?
Posted by: Victor at August 26, 2005 10:28 AM (L3qPK)
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She's fuckin' with us Ted.
Posted by: Casca at August 26, 2005 04:20 PM (qBTBH)
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Casca, what was that aobut an amorphous mind?
Annie, you are a wicked girl; I'd threaten to spank you, but I'm afraid you'd just enjoy it.
Posted by: shelly at August 26, 2005 07:16 PM (M7kiy)
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I've become accustomed to having my comments regularly deleted. It never happened before she went to law school. Now she's a regular totalitarian. Fairly innocuous comment if you axe me. Ah the day will come when I'm IP blocked.
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She Don't Speak For Us Caravan
For those in Southern California interested in lending support, the Crawford Texas Caravan in support of our troops is heading your way.
On Tuesday at 3:05pm, we will be arriving in Burbank at KFI studio, 3400 W. Olive Avenue to appear on the John and Ken Show.
On Wednesday at 8:00am, we will be arriving in San Diego at KOGO studio, 9660 Granite Ridge Drive, San Diego to appear live on the Roger Hedgecock Show. Roger will be broadcasting from the parking lot so our supporters can join him during the broadcast.
PLEASE - if you are anywhere near where our caravan will be, we NEED you to make plans to meet us at the caravan stops... and if possible join the caravan for part of the way.
More info and updates can be found
here.
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Blatant self promotion here: You might be interested in the piece at www.BoldlyRide.blogspot.com about Cindy Sheehan's deathsploitation of her claimed "moral authority."
I believe that the female participant mentioned in the piece is the leader of the caravan.
Posted by: Zerin Hood at August 25, 2005 08:21 AM (V3wWt)
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Sorry, but I find it difficult to believe that readers of this blog do not support this caravan.
I sent money immediately, and, when it came to LA I was scheduled to go to the rally, but the illness of a partner changed my plans.
Please click on the link and send some money or attend the rallys or both.
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August 22, 2005
California Handgun Safety Certificate
i took the California Handgun Safety Certificate written test last weekend and passed with flying colors. That means that the State of California has deemed me worthy to purchase a handgun within the next five years if i so choose.
The test is so easy even one of Victor's rats could pass it (assuming that Victor has taught them how to read, as i'm sure he has). But the State of California still got 25 bucks out of me for the privilege of taking the test.
Publicola fisked the test's review booklet and showed how, despite the simplicity of the questions, even an expert can have trouble. This sample question seems to have tripped him up:
Hmmm. They have a self test.
'Safety Rule Number Two is keep
the gun pointed:
A. To the north.
B. In the safest possible direction.
C. Up.
D. Down.'
Well being a Southerner I gotta go with A. . . . we never really trusted those damn yankees . . .
Very funny.
Publicola was also nice enough to answer two questions i posed to him:
if Cali does not have the worst gun laws in the country, who does? and on a related note . . . Are there any decently industrialized nations that recognize the rights of gun owners similar to or better than the US?
You can read
his answers here.
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Incredibly Stupid Statement Making The Rounds
The next time i hear someone say that Iraqi women were better off when Saddam was in power, i'm going to scream. Why are so many people saying that? Do they all get the same stupidity newsletter?
Listen up. When the son of a country's leader goes around town picking out women, who are then abducted, raped, and their husbands killed, that is not a situation that any sane person should characterize as "better off."
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That's no different from: "The people in Russia were better off during the Soviet Union."
And when that old bastard castro finaly dies, and the people of cuba switch over to capitalism, you will hear the same thing "You didn't have all this poverty under Castro".
Posted by: Kyle at August 23, 2005 03:25 AM (4t42C)
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And similarly, Kyle, "The Soviet People had more rights guaranteed by their Consitution than Americans did!"
Which is technically probably true. It's just that in practice they didn't have
any.
Posted by: Sigivald at August 23, 2005 03:03 PM (4JnZM)
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When assessing whether the women of Iraq are better off in 2002 or 2005, a whole host of factors need to be considered. A few powerful above-the-law (such as it was) rapists, while appalling, are a pretty small factor when we're talking about the welfare of a group of many millions of people. We can condemn the acts you speak of, and still recognize that they had an impact on a tiny fraction of Iraqi women. Sharia Law has a tremendous negative impact on far more women; Hussein generally kept a lid on that practice, and no post-Hussein authorities have been able to do so systematically.
I have no idea if the statement is true or not; I certainly think it's plausible, but I'll willingly grant you the point that most people making the claim don't really know one way or the other. But the data you offer to refute it is pretty clearly insufficient, and I suspect you realize this.
Posted by: djw at August 23, 2005 03:14 PM (0yQU6)
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To djw:
Thoughtful post - but sharia law hasn't been instituted. If and when it does become the law of the land, we can revisit the question.
In the meantime, 25% of the national assembly are women(more than the U.S. Congress), women have the right to vote(which they didn't have in America until over a century after our constitution was implemented).
We agree there are problems in some parts of Iraq: kidnappings, terror attacks, and roving bands of "sharia bullies" who threaten and prey on women in some public areas. Still, when one looks at the staggering number of citizens killed during Saddam Hussein's rule - including the staggering number of sons and husbands forcibly sent into fatal military actions by Saddam - it is absolutely and deviously wrong to claim women are worse off now than they were then.
IF sharia law is instituted, THEN one can assess whether women are worse off under sharia than they were being widowed under Saddam.
BTW: The muddled constitutional compromises:
*Islam is "a" source of law.
*No law shall contradict Islam.
*No law shall infringe upon human or democratic rights.
*The people shall be the source of law(as opposed to the Koran)
reminds me of our own constitutional compromises, in which blacks constituted 3/5 of a citizen, and women did not have the right to vote. Some famous black leader - maybe Dred Scott - said the 3/5 Compromise was the foundation upon which the union was built - as the nation cound not have been birthed without it. I hope that will also be the case with Iraq's constitutional doublespeak.
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BTW II:
Whatever happened to that large number of starving children living under Saddam - so large that Oil for Food was neccessary to help them - then they didn't get helped b/c Saddam never got the food to the children?!?!
If your children are starving, I believe you were worse off under Saddam than you are now.
BTW III:
Infrastructure? Anyone? If your infrastructure was antiquated and crumbling, I believe you were worse off under Saddam than you are now.
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BTW IV:
Marsh Arabs? Anyone? If you were a female Marsh Arab w/o a marsh, I believe you were worse off under Saddam than you are now.
BTW V:
Kurds? Anyone? If you were a Kurdish woman, you were definitely worse off under Saddam, and you only got better off when America helped your brave Kurdish men fight off Saddam for a decade. At that point, when your life and your family were saved, you were really living under the protection of America and Kurdish warriors, and under the rule of brave Kurds. When you were safe, you WERE NOT living under Saddam.
I've got to stop. I'm starting to really get pissed off at the whole "better off under Saddam" lie.
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there's a danger of not seeing the forest for the trees on a topic like this. My comment was intended to counter this tendency. Law, at its root is about predictability. In societies where the rule of law is not respected, in the most general sense the problem affects all citizens because no one knows with any certainty what the consequences of their actions or inactions may be. In a more specific sense, the argument that because most Iraqi women were not raped by Uday (or was it Qusay, i forgot) then women as a whole had it pretty good when you consider the rest of their circumstances, just doesn't hold water for me. And it shouldn't for you either. Saddam
was the law. Therefore if his sons were able to go around doing that kind of shit and no citizen could do anything about it, all citizens suffered because the rule of law had broken down. Imagine if Roger Clinton had gone around raping women with impunity because no one complained, and those who did suddenly "disappeared." If you said "well he never raped my sister, and besides there's a hundred thousand new cops on the street" i would say that your moral compass needs fixin.
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Agreed; the predictability associated with rule of law is more important than specific instances provided by it. This is central to the (small r) republican conception of freedom, which I've always found very persuasive, and more useful than conventional liberal understandings of freedom.
Still, it remains to be seen that there's more rule of law in todays Iraq than Iraq of 2002. The constitution isn't really all that important until the country is actually under the control of the government that is (hopefully) bound by it. Much of it isn't. The forms of law in much of the country don't measure up to that standard, and are subject to the abuses of a host of local power-abusers, many of whom are embracing a form of law particularly harmful to women that Hussein never allowed.
(For the record, I object to the characterization "had it pretty good"--I certainly wouldn't claim that; I think all observers of any sanity would agree we're talking about two pretty suboptimal situations. Same goes for the line about my moral compass--I don't see how my comment could have implied that because a certain set of depraved actions by one actor might not have made the overall situation for millions of people the worst imaginable, that constitutes moral permissability.)
Look, I'm not a conservative in my political ideology (as noted above, I'm far more sympathetic to a form of rebuplicanism, with a fair dose of liberalism mixed in as well). But conservatives get some things right--they nailed the French Revolution, for example. Some of them conceded the fundamental injustice of the existing ruling class (actually, similar stuff about powerful people raping women of their choice with impunity...), but they reminded us that the reflexive choice of justice over order every time, regardless of circumstances, despite being a morally and philosophically persuasive position, is fundamentally ignorant of the realities of the practice of politics and the nature of social power. That's the most important lesson conservative political ideology has for us, and I wish more so-called political conservatives would see the wisdom in it once in a while.
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Look, you want to talk realities of politics and social power, here's reality:
Saddam was horrible tyrant who needed to be overthrown. A period of readjustment and renewal is in progress.
Forget "moral and philosophical," your "realist" argument is dead wrong. What you think you know about Saddam's Iraq is untrue, and what you think you know about present day Iraq is untrue.
I do not think you appreciate the horror Saddam visited upon Iraqis by presiding over:
*a million Iraqi deaths(via murder and misguided military adventure),
*a wretched economy
*wretched living conditions(including depriving Kurds and Shia of electricity - among other things), and
*a Baathist murder/muscle force which violently repressed innocent Iraqis - especially innocent Kurds and Shia.
I do not think you appreciate the significance of:
*Iraq's infrastructure being rebuilt(with electricity and oil production now exceeding pre-invasion levels),
*it's economy booming,
*it's people eating and going to school,
*hugely reduced police thuggery, and
*2/3 of the nation living in peace and prosperity.
Unemployment is high - but the unemployed are generally eating as well as they did when they were employed under Saddam. Unemployment may stay high for some years, as Iraqis adjust to free market realities. The picture of near 100% happy employment under Saddam is false. If that employment was so good, I ask again: where did those hungry Oil for Food children come from?
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the thing is, djw, you seem reasonable and decent, and I've no doubt you are reasonable and decent, but your entire position disgusts me. It is factually wrong and morally bereft. In its own way, it is an evil position for you to take, insofar as you building a argument upon falsehoods; and your argument - if it were to influence future policy in the case of a tyrant who is a security threat to the world - will result in great harm.
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Reflections On A '95 St. Supery Cab
i'm no wine expert, but i'll give it a try. i emailed
Pursuit, who is the unofficial sommelier of annika's journal, and asked him if it was time to drink that $12 bottle of '95
St. Supery Cabernet i'd been holding onto. He responded thusly:
I'd suggest that you drink it pretty soon.
I hope you've kept it on its side
i had.
and in a reasonably cool place.
No place is
cooler than wherever i am.
While some reds can be great beyond ten years, my guess is the St Supery is probably in its sweet spot now.
So i tried it with beef this weekend and, while it's not Silver Oak, it was good.
(If you're ever in Napa, i recommend the St. Supery winery tour. Very informative.)
As for the '95, i liked it. Almost rust in color, plum and berry predominates, and there was no trace of tannin. A hint of oak [i have no idea what i'm talking about, btw] and big but not overly complex. All in all, a good $12 investment.
Tasted good tooo.
Update: Although i have no idea what a tannin is, this pro seemed to agree with me that the '95 didn't have any.
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You must be the only college student in history outside of the Royal Family that has a wine collection.
Or you were going through your sock drawer and found this bottle of wine.
Which is it?
Posted by: Jake at August 22, 2005 07:25 PM (CT8rN)
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heh, if you're trying, you'll figure it out. There is nothing like a soft red with some good beef, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I have a largish collection.
Posted by: Casca at August 22, 2005 08:58 PM (qBTBH)
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WTFO, try the entire fucking valley if you're doing the tour thing. I am particular to Maryvale.
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I think
Pursuit gave you some decent advice. But I'm not a sommelier, and nothing stays on my wine rack longer than a month. Call it a desire for immediate gratification, or whatever.
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Every wine which has ever been recommended to me was a bitter undrinkable shoe polish. I find I can only drink rhine wines, and zinfindels. And occassionaly a red table wine. It's not that I need sweet wine, it's just that I despise wines which are too dry.
Posted by: Kyle at August 23, 2005 03:30 AM (4t42C)
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Tannin is that factor of a wine that makes your mouth pucker and dry up a bit. Reds tend to have more tannin than whites, which is not surprising, as the tannins in the wine come from the peel, stems, and leaves of the grape vine.
It's useful as a preservative, which is why reds age better than whites. It's also believed tannins give the wine an anti-oxident property, which is why a group of scientists started including a glass of red wine each day as part of their diet. They were the ones who did the study!
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Well mark this day in the books of web history as a big one for the intrepid Pursuit. I have been named the unofficial sommelier to one of my favorite bloggers. This is big, really big and I believe I need to do something to make this special. So I've begun working on pairings with Sig 226's. Preliminary results are sketchy, but seem to suggest that the wine should be enjoyed after the shooting, NOT with. More later, I think I hear the siren....
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Final Jeopardy With annika
The category is "The Blogosphere."
The players are:
Trevor $1900
Casca $1700
Dave J $1400
Victor $1100
Shelly $1000
Phil $500
Charlie $400
D-Rod $400
Skippy $400
Jasen $300
Ken $200
Kyle $200
The time limit is until 11:59 p.m. Pacific time, Tuesday night. Rules are here. Don't forget your wager and to phrase the response correctly. No need to buzz in. Click here to send me your response. Good luck!
[Final Jeopardy music starts now.]
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August 20, 2005
Boomer Deathwatch
i discovered an interesting niche blog this morning,
Boomer Deathwatch. It's about that old Gen X - Boomer antipathy. i consider myself a Gen Xer, so i can relate to a lot of it. Here's an excerpt from the top post:
In the meantime, I worked minimum wage jobs and buffed up my political and social paranoia, built out of bits and pieces of leftover 60s radical rhetoric. Reagan was evil; Thatcher was a witch; the CIA pulled the strings; the Joint Chiefs of Staff and their counterparts at the Kremlin were glaring at each other over some future battlefield, wracked with nervous ticks and drenched with booze-soaked flopsweat, and one day they'd go too far and blow us all to kingdom come. There was no good or evil, or it was all evil, or we all had the potential for good. I don't know, it changed all the time, depending on what I was reading.
Then the 80s boom ended and the Wall fell and I finally got tired of being afraid and confused. More to the point, I got tired of letting fear and ignorance dictate how I saw the world, so I started reading books, some of which I didn't agree with at first. I stopped reading music magazines and started reading about economics, if only to find out just why all of the magazines I'd worked for as a freelance writer and photographer came and went in such regular cycles.
I was 'empowering myself'. Sure. Basically I was trying to peek my head up over the surging boomer crest ahead of me before the building echo wave behind me swept me down again. There had to be more to be seen or heard than the surging spectacle of sex, drugs and rock and roll that had been the backdrop for my whole life. If it looked like I'd never afford a house or a family, at least I wanted to know why I didn't die in a nuclear holocaust, or live in the Orwellian 'security state' of total surveillance and mind control that so many of my peers seemed to think was inevitable - indeed, already here, if you listened to many of them.
i was born later than the authors of this blog, so i don't have the same reference point they do on Carter, Punk, Disco, etc. (i read Douglas Coupland one night, yawned and promptly dismissed it.) But i get the whole "Boomers ruined it for us" meme.
i remember when Time ran that cover story about Gen X back in the eighties and it wasn't too flattering. And this whole shit storm erupted about whether Gen Xers were slackers, and why the Boomers were so bitter about the next generation.
Then the conflict seemed to die down, sometime in the late nineties perhaps. Boomers started to realize with their mortality staring them in the face, that their entire life could not be the big self-indulgent youth movement they thought it would be. And that Gen-Xers weren't all lazy cynics, and they didn't necessarily want or need to follow in the Boomers' footsteps either.
By the way, i recently saw The Big Chill for the first time on DVD. i'd heard so much about that movie that i figured i was missing out for having never seen it. i was wrong. i didn't miss a darn thing.
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Absolutely, you missed nothing. Don't get me wrong, there was a lot of good entertainment from the 60's and 70's but there was even more crap.
I was on the tale end of the boomers. I graduated college in 1980. I saw all the selfindulgent, narcisstic dip weeds who were a little older than me and tried not to be like them.
I usually found myself working alongside younger people and so I developed an affinity to the Gen X crowd. I think Gen X'ers and the current crop of young people are so much more normal than the Boomer generations.
They were the most self absorbed, self destructive, and sheep like fad followers ever.
Posted by: Kyle at August 20, 2005 02:49 PM (4t42C)
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The only thing that makes me a boomer is my age.
I don't know anybody who is remotely like a character in The Big Chill. I suspect they are as representative of most boomers as the cast of Real World is to most of today's college students.
I could easily slander my parents generation, who never hesitate to vote themselves bigger Social Security benefits out of the paychecks of their children. They were also the folks who won WWII. You'd have to go back to the Civil War to find Americans who sacrificed more.
I'd give the boomers some credit for improvements in Civil Rights, balanced against a lot of destructive, self indulgent behavior and the shameful betrayal of our Vietnamese allies. Does winning the Cold War count for anythinng?
The Big Chill is OK, but I'm more Animal House or American Graffiti.
Posted by: MarkD at August 21, 2005 07:04 PM (nQAo8)
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Annika - for an interesting perspective on generations, read Strauss and Howe.
Generations: The History of America's Future
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August 19, 2005
Good For Him
Way to go, Bob.
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My respect for Bob Costas judt went up another notch. And really, the guy still has my everlasting sympathies for having to co-host the opening ceremony of the 2004 Olympics with Katie Couric. No one deserves that.
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Costas has always struck me as one of the classiest, well-educated and informed people in broadcasting.
Speaking of Katie Couric, I was listening to Tony Snow on the radio yesterday. Snow played a small piece of the Today Show (?) involving Sean "P. Diddy" Combs and Katie Couric. Katie greeted "P. Diddy" with
"What's up?"
Then Mr. Diddy made his big announcement that he will be dropping the "P" in his name: he's now "Diddy." My life is now complete.
Posted by: Mark at August 21, 2005 11:17 AM (Vg0tt)
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